Gorgon

The stumbling block is that the developers introduce an illogical or at the very least far feched moral condition, that is in practical terms removed from any sense of moral consequence, with the exception of devour, I can see why repeated use of that would be considered 'chaotic', or 'evil' depending on circumstance. It's the Jedi syndrome all over again, practically all the brances of choices lead to one extreme. Where is the gray path here, dividing devour and supress 50/50 ? Ludicrous.

That explanation is hardly sufficient to explain an alignment shift, we need an abstract moral choice here, not what chance and practicality throws your way. Remember, your hypothetical scenario doesen't exist in the game.

No, Gorgon, you the player have one motive. However, your character sure as hell doesn't want to "use his spirit eater ability for the day. If she can't find any tethors, thats exactly the motivation. Why would she take leave of her senses and purposely grow weaker when she posesses a means to fight the curse. No clear explanation exists as to why resisting an undesirable effect should be a 'lawful' act. And why on earth would dividing devour and supress 50/50 be a neutral one. If there is a huge gap between my own (the player's) and my character's motivation, and that gap is forcefully introduced by the developers, that is pretty disasterous designwise.

If my character is about to undergo a major alignment change I would sure like to know in advance, and the reasoning better be logical. The supress ability is not inherrently lawful if your motivation simply is to use your spirit ability for the day. Who says my character gives a rats arse about the metaphysical ramifications of not devouring spirits. In NWN2 I started out as neutral, and through dialouge and actions spanning the whole campaign I shifted to Neutral Good, this worked rather well. More care needs to be taken, alignment shift triggers shouldn't just be thrown out in the game willy nilly.

Will removing the curse with the console screw up the game you think ? If not i'm doing that yesterday.

MMOGs would be great if not for all those idiot other players.

Does anyone know if I can use the console to get me back to neutral good, I have now somehow become lawful good, so I can\t advance as a druid anymore, and no prestige classes are available. As annoying as the spirit eater thing is, I\m still liking the game and would prefer not having to start over.

Personally, I thought it was pretty easy to deal with. Then again, I did the "good" path with it. Yes, but I play as a Druid. Apparently trying to minimise the effects of annoying forced plot elements makes me too 'lawful', unless I feed on spirits I will lose my ability to advance in my class.

By the way, I have these essences that the description says I can enchant using a 'mold sprit ability'. I haven't actually got something with such an ability though, and the stores are fresh out as well. I'm playing throught the game for the first time, and, well, it's not terrible. I still don't like the camera though, and there seems to be a lot of rubberbanding going on when you run past the meatshields to engage the casters in mele. The npc interaction box is a bit dull, and on occasion I have found myself just reading my own questions rather than siving through lengthy uninspiring dialouge, but the game surprises you with quality touches enough to keep it interesting.

We have a cuisine now, thats certainly new.

Hmm, I think generally a lot of the 'evil' dialouge options are illogical, I usually can't get myself to select them. How long does it take before you gain that ability assuming you start out with an evil character ?

The spirit meter is a nuisance. No one likes plot devices that hamstring gameplay. At the very least you should have been able to feed on anyone's spirit, not just the blue glowy things you desperatelt run around trying to find. Maybe not in agreement with the premise of the plot, but, who cares. The special abilities associated with the curse aren't fun to use either, if you play as a caster you can just ignore the meter and use the satiate ability once in a while, you will hardly know the difference, but a mele character is seriously hampered by a forced plot device. That is a really stupid idea. And consider the way it was introduced, here's 6 pages of special rules and abilities regarding your curse and something else to clog up your HUD. I bet a lot of people where underwhelmed. Would have been a better idea to introduce in stages, as the curse strengtened.

It's comforting to live somewhere with no earthquakes, no wildfires, and no insects that can kill you. And maybe a little boring as well.

Well I finised the game, and I usually used the enchanced mininmap to move around to avoid seizures. In NWN I think they had anticipated those problems and compensated by simply making areas a tad larger and limiting the zoom level as well, so you wouldn't end up staring through your characters skin at their teeth and eyebrows dangling in the air. The Cameras have been tamed some, but not enough, it's such a basic function that it has to be right. The loadtimes depend according to computer of course, but, with textures on high a quicksave takes three times as long as an average game's normal save, this is on a mid range system.

Unreal 1 had a singleplayer mode nobody usedl. They made a seperate Unreal tourney 2 single player game as well, It's horrible.

The camera controls and the horrinble loadtimes.

All the previous UT engine installments have been some of the most sleek and scalable anywhere, I hope this continues. They have been at this for what, 4 years, ought to be good. I played all the UT games at length, both LAN and online, maybe this is the excuse i need to fork out for a new comp. Don\t hold out any hopes for the story, just for a good competative FPS.

Im not getting anything else with the NWN2 engine.

Seems like this game is a pain in the @#$... It kinda worries me... I haven't bought it yet, but I hope they will have most bugs fixed when I decide to do so... Sounds to me he is using a sub-standard system. NWN2 plays fine on any average or better system. My save times are ~5-8 secs Load times ~10-15 secs My system is not anything bleeding edge: AMD64 x2 4200+ 512meg DDR2 x2 dual channel 80gig SATA x2 RAID0 7600GT 256meg video Win XP Save and load times shouldn't be affected by anything other than HDD and system ram, since the HDD is obviously the bottleneck anyway. I have the same card with double the ram, and 1 gig system ram. I think 2 is recommended. regardless 15 secs is way too long as well. I may have embelished time spent staring at load bars for effect.

I found a fix to the load thing by simply turning everything down to ugly mode, I have enough texture memory and the game runs fine, but without the extra texture data loading every time you make an area transition I can actually load a game in under a minuite. I made it to the final standoff and was off to fight the King of shadows when the game presented me with the first CDT and whats worse, during a cutscene, just wonderful. I suppose it could be to do with the setting changes I made, but i'm not hopeful.

Yup, they did something based on Dragonlance as well. With a lot better loadtimes too. It ain't MUD, as they called it back then, tho.

doesen't this stuff happen every year ?

It worked, although I have shelfed the game again, no patience for 5 minuite loadtimes anymore. I found myself just playing on trying to reach an autosave because even the quicksave is an extremely lengthy affair. So I basically died with no saves anywhere near my progress point.

It depends I guess, old fart vs 14 year old = pedophile. 14 year-old vs 14 year-old = hardly something to be thrown in jail over.

I thought those were just spares from using scribe scroll, I'll check that out.