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Why cant we just give him the sword and be done with it? A+) It would be fast and wed get what we want. A) We'd have a whole bunch of very angry Giovanni and their many human associates after us if they found out who did it, which is very likely B) Who cares about a bunch of ghosts? C) Wraiths are silly and shouldnt be included in Vamoire games so if we let the Giovanni do their thing we might not have to put up with that crap again D) Going ahead with this would mean Numbers char is either killed or is no longer part of the Coterie.

Advantage: -Giovanni dont normally have Auspex and so the Elder is more likely to trust that we really are going to give him the sword. Flaws: -If there are security cams in the house(which we can safely asume), they will see through the obuscate and hit the alarm. -If we use Aleks technomagic or hacking to disable the cameras, they will know we're up to something. Conclusion It is probably better to just walk in normally and strike quickly with everything we've got. Jags or whoever has celerity+melee, The padre with his faith mojo, the rest with our respective talents. OR... my personnal favorite :D Fill the Giovanni van with a couple of big barrels of fertiliser and diesel fuel, put a clamp on the gas pedal and drive it up ro the mansion. Its whoring it, yes, but it would work. I doubt Ender is going to let us do it though, he would probably like something more dramatic "

The best plan for taking out the Elder(apart from blowing up the mansion from the outside, something I doubt Ender would let us do) is to have Jags surprise attack him and use his Celerity to be able to attack multiple times, before the Elder gets a chance to react

It would be another thing if we were supposed to actually storm the mansion, but a we are fetcing the sword for him, we can just walk right in. Ender said that the sword has special mojo and I think we can take him. Personally, I think this whole wraith bussiness is ridiculous and Val would certainly have no qualms about siding with either faction against the other. And yes I used to hang at the WW boards when Justin Achili(lead design VtM and WW head honcho) was active there and he disliked the idea of "club" clans for this very reason but popular demand made them include them as PC clans anyway. He did get his way with Requiem though.

Id say that this is exactly what happens when you allow player to play character from clans that have stronger bonds to their clans than to the coterie, like Tremere, Giovanni, Assamites Setites etc. they were never really meant to be more than NPC's (and thats kind of why all such things were removed from Vampire Requiem) Now the Giovanni, we have two choices: A) Give the sword to the Giovanni and most likely get completely screwed over B) screw him over by killing him with the sword just when we pretend we're going to hand it over. here the log btw game2log.txt

We wont actually have to storm the mansion, we need to meet with 'Don Tony' and stick him with our magic pigsticker. We also need to get out before the rest of his Giovanni find out what we've done. Getting in and meeting him will be easy since he expects us to give him the sword, stabbing him and getting out will be more difficult. I was going to dominate Baley into strapping himself with C4 for a bit of kamikaze action but he didnt like the idea. wuss.

This argument has to be one of the most idiotic Ive ever seen on a forum.

From what I've witnessed, it takes 3 years for him to make a movie simply because he has to personally oversee EVERYTHING. That makes him an auteur. Most other filmmakers rely on second-unit directors, producers, etc. to have almost an equally large share in the film. In and of itself, directing, writing and editting could make one an auteur since you control so much of the film from that angle. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He certainly oversees many aspects of production but he does so much more in the manner of a producer than an actual director. He also claims that the primary in his films is the visuals, yet he leaves all of the design and photography to others. He is also known for being useless at directing actors, something that is essential for one to be considered a director. But there are ways to intepret 'Auteur' to be a person who is considered to the the author of a film in the public opinion, something that Lucas (wrongly IMO) is.

Yes, but I was in fact applying the ancient Greek rethoric strategy of "not really paying attention to what your opponent is saying" And besides, that is YOUR interpretation of what you said. I think Im entitled to form my own opinion of what you really said, deying me of the right to have an opinion is something is highly undemocratic.

But everyone knows that the definition of a term can be claimed to be highly individual, so by claiming that one specific defitition of a term is to be applied universally, you are in fact steering the debate into a debate around the definition of a term and away from the initial subject. According to my interpretation of the original 'Auteur theory' that some films can be said to have a single author rather than being a largely collaborative effort, then I say that Lucas relies too heavily on the creative input of others to be considered 'auteur'. It could also be argued that 'auteur' can only be applied to makers of serious or art cinema, and not to simple entertainment.

neg. no pwnage has yet been detected.

prawns smell if you leave them in the computer, they need to be properly refrigerated. how many players do we have? I say we get an evil troll player for the Ferenghi... like Volo or Nurbs

Wouldnt we be required to get new email adresses in order to truly play anonymously? And even then an evil " player could reveal himself or others?

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I was about to fire my ususal retort when I realised every debate we have here seem to be going in circles. And the Lucas thing isnt fun enough to discuss for the trillionth time.. But I have to say that the word is usually associated with someone that has huge talant for writing and directing. I mean Ed Wood or Russ Meyer were 'auteur' if you define it like that :D

A very. very small group of people that would be :D With 'Auteur' is meant a directing and writing genius who has a unique vision and the ability to make that vision come true on screen. We're talking Kurosawa, Bergman, Truffaut, Fellini and the gang here. Calling Lucas an Auteur is like comparing the guy who did the Iron Maiden album sleeves with Picasso

Crikey! What kind of monster resolution are you working in?

Why do we always end up back with Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Who is the douchebag whos manipulating all the debates towards this?

You just made a pro-Palestinian argument there Ender. Think about it, which of these two scenarios most resemble the heinious treatment of the Native Americans, The Kurds or even the Armenians: A) Evacuating 8-9000 settlers from a hostile area where they only served to aggravate the conflict. B) The forceful expulsion of 520 000

I never could figure out what that series was about back then. Just a lot of licking peoples ears.

Yeah, noone could be said to have won unless you rack up 18 of em.

Overrated: Happiness Underrated: Bitterness

Overrated: Fast Zombies like in 28 days or the new 'Dead film Underrated: Classic slow zombies like in the classic 'Dead films

You understood me correctly in that there will be no other supernaturals. This extends to the whole world in this setting, they do not exist and they never have.