ShadowPaladin V1.0

Sounds about right since they were uncomfortable with being so close to the Rebublic that it was preventing them from doing their job. Seperation of church and state if you like. I still dont see anything natural about leaping 30 feet in the air or picking up fruit with your mind though

It's really not a difficult thing. Dying as martyr on Jihad is a fast track to heaven and all those virgins. Actually the church promised similiar things during the Crusades. Anyone killed on Crusade had a place in heaven and all earthly sins forgiven. These are dangerous ideals in the hands of the desperate and the stupid.

You will excuse me if I dont find your attitude particularly funny since those comments are based on real events that occured during WWII.

And when they are done with you they will go shoot your family too.

Umm so now it's democracy's fault is it ? No we are definately not on the same page since your page keeps changing as you look for new things to blame. The system is just that a system If you want to blame that then you may as well blame the gun that a murderer kills someone with while your at it. Yes but your principle of thought is wrong. It's not only wrong it's also counter productive to you proffesed goal. All you end up doing with your mass blame is turing the more moderate members of society into the very thing you are trying to avoid. Your always talking about learning from the past. Well didnt the treaty of versalises teach you anything? Umm people are constantly begging for America's help you do get that dont you ?

COD 2 got the same score as well. I'd give it about a 5 but then I really dislike the recharging health.It's like they are trying to turn every game into a Halo TC.

Yes but that would mean the idea of collective responsibility in the way you intend it to work dosnt actually work and whats even worse is the opposite is completely proven to work. It's not missing the point your theory is just flawed. You may want it to work a certain way, but if it dosnt work that way in practice then it's pretty worthless. I never said we should only blame the order givers. It's not a defence to say "I was just obeying orders". Then again if your choice is to obey the order or be shot its not so black and white is it. But thats a far cry from blaming everyone who happened to be alive in Germany at the time and for the foreseeable future which is what you want to do. Most of the German society of that time was as busy avoiding the attentions of the Ghestapo as anyone else. You do remember what happened to those generals who disagreed with Hitler dont you ? Or what about one of the blokes who actually founded the Nazi party with him (one was executed ,one fled to Canada). Like it's already been pointed out if anything drove the German people into Hitlers arms it's the treaty following WWI. And that treaty is all about trying to impose collective guilt on a society. Didnt you say a couple of posts ago that the German people used Hitler as a scapegoat ? Of course your critera is more universal. Your criteria is blame everyone

It looks like a ghostrap, it even has the same sort of hum as a ghost trap because of the fan. If all you could see was the flex then you could use it as a prop.

Not really what he said was they have powers that could be considered unatural. Just because some may consider something unatural dosnt make it so. I'm sure a force ghost would creep people out just as much as 1000 year old Jedi. Is there anything natural about force ghosts ? Wouldnt think so.

No your completely wrong on both counts. Following orders absolves you of responsibility under collective responsibility since the order comes from someone other than yourself since you are just carrying out the instructions of another. Where as if you believe in personal responsibility you are still responsible for what you do even if you are ordered to do it. Following orders is a collective not an individual act. Thats the very concept of what an order means. If you read the synopsis of Ordinary Men it clearly states that they felt they were able to perform those duties because they shared the responsibility for them. By sharing the blame it lessened it to the point where they could do what they were ordered to do. Individually none of them would have likely did that , but because they were a collective they were able. All in all it kind of screws up your theory that shared responsibility prevents that sort of thing dosnt it? Not true since the men in charge are the ones with the weapons. They may not act alone, but they hardly act as a nation either. Not every German fought for Hitler not every Japanese fought for the emporer. The majority of those that did fought honourably and were completely unaware of what was going on in the minds of the upper echelons. reluctance to force the others to bear more than their share of what each viewed as an excruciating duty Note the word share.

It's pretty clear what personal responsibility has going for it over collective guilt. 1. No "I was just following orders" 2. No sharing actions to mitigate guilt (see Ordinary Men) 3. None of that "It's gods will crap" All of which have been used to excuse genocide. During WWII my Grandfather spoke to an American who had lead some Germans around a deathcamp. Were they aware it was there ? Yep. Would they have been shot if they had spoken out against it ? Yep. So while lots of Germans may have taken what some may see as the easy route. The primary motivation for mr ordinary German was saving their own skin and not getting them and their families killed. Which strikes me more as common sense than anything else. It's also no reason why the Germans should not be allowed to celebrate their own heroism. If you want to see something that incites racial violence, look no further than football. You will find more deaths and injuries resulting from football matches than you will ever find resulting from comemerative events.

Like the Lightside of the force there is no such thing in the movies. The Jedi order is a religion split into sects. Anakin fulfilled the prophecy anyway.

That was the only one they had on the shelf. Other than that I havnt seen the game around. Maybe they will bring out a PS3 version. To update the list I'm playing Shadow The Hedgehog right now or I will be in about 1 minute from the time of this post.

A society is a continuation of its past. Therefore, in accepting responsibility of the present you are accepting responsibility for the past's continuations into the present. A nation's conception of its own history is a perfect example of the past's continuation into the present: the "right" thing to do here is not to glorify the hell out of your past via skewed revisionism but to take responsibility for the truth of that past. If a society cannot even do that, how can it hope to take responsibility for the present? (and from history, very few such societies actually take responsibility for their actions in the present - they scapegoat the "powerful leaders in charge") <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes it would. It's pretty hard to have the nicieties and social control when your just trying to survive. Want to see what happens. Take a look at New Orleans after the Hurricane and thats people who know that there is help out there. Wow a country celebrates brave men I'm sure it will kick off a new invasion of poland And yet I dont hold anything against the Japanese when I probably have far more reason to than you do. Funny that isnt it. No thats got nothing to do with accepting responsibility for your own actions. You can just as easily use that excuse to get your revenge on some poor sod who just happens to belong to a society that "wronged" you 300 years ago. The only thing I will accept responsibility for are my own actions simple as that.Thats all I expect from others as well. So no hating them collectively because they happened to kill one of my ancestors. So now your trying to say Hitler is a scape goat for the Holocaust ? WOW good luck with that one.

I'd just look in the employee records. If it meant Mr Lee would lose his job since your not filling the quota or whatever then no need to report it.

Really wouldnt want to kill it. Just sort of test myself against it Kind of like subduing a Dragon only with a giant scorpion.

Looks very good on par with some of the 360 screenies. Not something I will be playing though.

Yes but your perpetuating them as my little experiment showed your not removing them. Actually in the case of a Dictatorship that is pretty much the case. The Dictator dies the society changes. I see no reason why they should not celebrate the bravery of their troops. We celebrated Nelson a couple of weeks ago no one got on a ship and started to shoot up french people. Thats more likely to happen after a football match than after a historical celebration. So how does it benifit anyone to continue putting them through the guilt and self loathing ? Would anyone be suprised that they would say 50 years is enough now sod off because I sure wouldnt. Never say never :D A nuclear war would pretty much reset the clock. As for collective guilt being a possitive force , nope dont see it. All it does is create resentment towards the group that you are trying to intergrate. If there is a reduction it's regional and thats due to seeing people on an every day basis and realising hey thats a person. In places where that is not the case there is just as much rasism and resentment as ever, even more in some places. So rather than trying to guilt people into accepting blame for things that are not their fault what "society" should be doing is making people take responsibility for their own actions and not scapegoating these actions onto other institutions. Which is where the whole mob mentality and group absolution come in.

That's kind of sad. You could probably find a tribe though. Look on the brightside at least no one is suing you for millions of $$.

Because there are a lot of "white" people living as Native Americans. And I expect they have had people trying to screw over the system with people claiming to be native American and whatnot. I'd take it as a sign and reconect with your tribal roots if you are able.

Well unless you do maintain cultural identification through tribal affiliation or community recognition (boy thats a mouthful) Then I'd say you are plain old boring white as far as the form is concerned. Well if it works like ours they have a quota of certain "races" which they fill. I abhor the whole thing since it makes a mockary of employing people on merit.

Well how could a game that wasnt 20 years old be published by a two decade old EA ? Could it be that people are just looking for someone to blame because the market no longer see's their platform as the "golden child". In perspective there were gaming platforms prior to the PC it's only logical that there will be gaming platforms after. Spiraling costs and a relatively fixed product price means there is only one avenue for profit and thats volume. The same is true on the PC unless you want to be one of those wannabe titles that everyone ignores. The idea that the PC was the founder of all these generes is also "romantic nonsense"

Wouldnt the problem be that each site would have it's own averge score ? Therefore you would have to determine what each sites average was before you could go about determining a collective average.

Self loathing is what collective guilt aims for. Thats why the Germans were never allowed to celebrate their bravery in WWII. And yes there were a lot of brave Germans. It all got buried under the whole self loathing that people expected of them. But thats exactly what you would be doing by taxing the current populace for something like slavery reperations. That society no longer exists it's gone. By all means learn from it, but dont expect anyone to feel guilty about it. Oh resentment sure. Self loathing why ? I might loathe them and thier money grubbing antics certainly wouldnt loathe myself. How could I support a system or not support a system that existed 300 years prior to when I was born ? Can you answer that ? See no one alive today could have possibly supported that system and thats where you argument fails. The other alternative as you say is resentment, and actually that turns out to be the only alternative. The system no longer supports slavery therefore it's not the same system and didnt you say that absolves "society" of guilt anyway ? So why would you be in favour of paying reperations for slavery since you are asking the innocent to pay for the guilty even by your own "rules".

No it's those people doing the whole slavery guilt trip. You may have failed to notice but thats me playing by your rules. All you have proven is far from making society a more peaceful place laying guilt unjustly on the innocent causes the opposite reaction which kind of strikes at the heart your arguement dosnt it. Your system turned someone who had no particular hatred for any race of people into someone that totally resented black people and their money grubbing slavery excuse to make money. (all hypothetical of course). If that was your goal , congratulations.