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Journalism and bias in the gaming industry
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
Wasn't the 8chan threads like, hijacked by ****posters (I mean, worse ones) like a couple of days ago or something? They moved to /gamergatehq/ after that. -
Funny thing is, the fighting game community is MUCH more diverse than average.In terms of diversity, fighting game tournaments blow sites like Kotaku out of the water. Which is hilarious, given how much whining Kotaku does about diversity in the FGC. Well the fighting game community is largely black guys playing games made in Japan. You should all know that Japan doesn't give a **** and that black guys for the most part don't care as long as you're good. *shrug*
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I think it all hinges on whether Obsidian "caved to pressure" or whether they just changed something that Josh Sawyer would have removed anyway if he knew it existed. I'm almost certain that Sawyer didn't look at every backer memorial, there are too many, they probably assigned other employees to do that, so it's feasible he never saw it. And IF he would have removed it if he saw it, then I see no problem, I support the freedom of artists to do whatever they want in their games, regardless of my political opinion. For example, if Anita Sarkeesian were to make a game, I would fully expect it to be full of radical feminist propaganda, and you know what? That's her prerogative. I wouldn't agree with it, but I support her right to create what she wants. So anyway, if we are to guess at whether Obsidian "caved to pressure" or whether they just removed something that they would rather not have in their game...I'm kind of leaning towards them just removing something they would rather not have. The mere fact that Sawyer backed Feminist Frequency tells us a lot about his views, and I think removing this line is probably consistent with those views. I, personally, do not agree with it being removed, but it's 100% Sawyer's and Obsidian's prerogative to edit what is in their game. I think the issue is that it's backer content and not dev content. Of course consulting with the back over what to do with it is a good move and I applaud Obsidian for that.
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mean–spirited : feeling or showing a cruel desire to cause harm or pain I can't look into the author's mind, but I'm 95% sure that him writing the poem was not "mean spirited" at all. Everyone needs to chill a little more and not immediately assume malice on everyone else's part. This also goes for the people jumping to the conclusion that the complainants must be political campaigners with ulterior motives rather than actual fans of the game/genre. My interpretation of what happened is this: Some "cis" person with little insight into the trans community wrote what he thought was an innocent joke, which in his mind likely did not attack trans people (the bud of the joke was the "cis" character who killed himself), and possibly wasn't even meant to refer to trans people at all (it could have been meant as two "cis" heterosexual men having sex unintentionally). However, the set-up of the joke happened to resonate with what members of the "online transgender twitter community" believe to be a common trope/prejudice used as a weapon in a brutal global campaign to persecute them.(It's difficult to be sure to what extent, exactly, that persecution narrative is rational. The fact that some amount of legal and social discrimination exists is undeniable. On the other hand, the idea that "cis" people regularly murder trans people after sleeping with them and then finding out their biological sex, likely belongs in the realm of conspiracy theories. Sure, there's probably a legitimate anecdote or two where such a thing happened, but the popular "1 in 12 trans people are murdered" factoid is quite obviously bogus. Nonetheless, many in the "online transgender twitter community" seem to honestly believe all of that, and thus understandably have a genuinely strong reaction to a limerick/joke which - when interpreted with the right assumptions - fits into that narrative.) It's a matter of people with completely different paradigms and views of reality, colliding thanks to the Internet.Group B thinks group A is out to get them, whereas group A does not believe that group B's emotional reactions are genuine. Firedorn's response is here. http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/75387-controversial-limerick-discussion-2/page-6?do=findComment&comment=1632654 "The joke wasn't targeted at trans-people, nor anyone in the LGBTQIA+ spectrum" Sounds like some people got offended over nothing. Happens quite a bit.
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Journalism and bias in the gaming industry
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
I'm not surprised tbh. 8chan is screaming shill and fighting while KiA is shilling for upboats. Therefore KiA will be starting more drama to feed the ego. -
I take more issue with this than either the original problem, or the original poster. If people were being picked on, hit, bullied, teased, killed, because they were straight, then you might have a point. But since that's NOT the case, your statement just comes off as bigoted and belittling. Change your second sentence to refer to a discriminated race, and see how quickly you get spanked for being racist.You've just made his point.
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Journalism and bias in the gaming industry
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
Yeah it seems a lot of them are being offended on Firedorn's behalf at the moment. -
Journalism and bias in the gaming industry
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
Around 500-600. -
Journalism and bias in the gaming industry
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
Where ? Im new here That's on reddit mate. -
Journalism and bias in the gaming industry
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
Yeah I was there too. Over at 8chan they're sperging out and screaming shill like dumbasses. Some people just like being mad I guess. -
Journalism and bias in the gaming industry
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to Blarghagh's topic in Way Off-Topic
You must be new here mate, we archive stuff from **** sites to avoid giving them clicks. Paste the link address at archive today. http://archive.today/ -
I'm from KiA and I'd still thank you not to throw us all in the same bag, especially since as I recall, you've dodged any attempts to debate with me or others these past few pages aswell. As far as I'm concerned, you condone yourself not much better than many of the people I'm currently highly frustrated with. It might help if your posts involved a little more objective discussion and a little less smug sense of satisfaction when you think you've just tossed out an epic "burn." NOTE: KiA will ban you for repeatedly "misgendering" or referring to trans by their "deadnames". I know GG is a popular boogeyman, but at least get your jabs right.
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Guys, Firedorn is cool with it. http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/74461-controversial-limerick-discussion/page-25?do=findComment&comment=1631723 Everyone wins, one side gets a "problematic" piece of content out and the other side gets a middle finger to those offended immortalized in the text.
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Actually, there was a choice. They asked me if I wanted to change in light of what happened. I chose to change it so that they can concentrate on the game instead of this PR nightmare. They weren't going to change it, they asked ME if I wanted to. I can find another platform to write my controversial crap, and I will. They, on the other hand, did the right thing and allowed me to decide the fate of the epitaph. I chose to turn into something that made fun of the bitch-bastards that were complaining. They went above and beyond what I would have expected them to do. Can someone save this glorious post as an image?
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Limerick edit thread 2
PK htiw klaw eriF replied to k1rage's topic in Pillars of Eternity: General Discussion (NO SPOILERS)
deadname?Name before she transitioned. Gets hurled at transfolk a lot. Wouldn't it be Birthname? As in the one his parents gave him? Well now it's dead to her; I guess. I kinda like the name Erika. Reminds of Fire Emblem 8. Not that that's one of the better Fire Emblem games. Not linear enough. Yes, Fire Emblem is BETTER when it's linear. Don't care how much people liked Awakening, it was too open! No strategy was needed cuz' you could just grind your way through. Screw that game. What was with the characters from other Fire Emblem games being in anyway? That's some bull crap. Ike should not be in the same universe as Marth. Speaking of Marth, why is that Ike get's an English voice actor in smash, but Marth's stuck talking in Japanese? Then again, Ike's voice acting is really bad, so maybe Marth not getting a voice actor in English is a good thing. Bad voice acting is more tolerable when it's in what is to me; jibberish. Look what she did by being named Erika. Now every time I think about this issue I'll be thinking of Erika and thus Fire Emblem 8. BTW: This post is very on topic! You like Fire Emblem 8? Casual scum.