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Debate would require you to be able to coherently argue for something Bruce, and you've continually proven you're either unwilling or unable to do that.

I'm sorry KP I try to not criticize you because my input seems to annoy you but I have noticed a real and perhaps concerning change in your overall views around ideology I have seen this many times before..first you rejected EU austerity and saw Germany as an enemy in the overall EU structure, then massive criticism of big business and the state of the US government and now we reach the point where its normal to use phrases like " states have become subservient to banks and other large corporations " , "interests of the ruling class which in these times are banks and corporations" and " Rule by private unaccountable entities is what Global Capitalism " Its standard left-wing hubris and vitriol against certain fundamental Western institutions, like the financial sector. it reminds me of something that Serb would say who you quote from RT....its all about anti-Western rhetoric for them end of the day, you should know they actually want to undermine and weaken the US. They not really interested in positive changes to your country But I did try to steer you away from this view.....but you basically dismissed what I said and of course you are perfectly entitled to believe what you want about the state of the USA but I hoped you wouldn't end up thinking like this I disniss what you say because you're borderline nonsensical and can't argue with facts or logic.

What has happened is that states have become subservient to banks and other large corporations, no morphing because we are already there. And in order to keep things flowing nicely for the master, the state is enacting totalitarian policies that bear a striking similarity to what the Marxist-Leninist States did to keep people in line. The state isn't some ogre eagerly looking to trample liberty for ****s and giggles, it's a tool to look after the interests of the ruling class which in these times are banks and corporations. They fund all the politicians, they lobby the politicians, they write/influence the legislation the politicians vote on, and they employ the politicians after they leave office. In return for their generosity, they have full control of the state to protect their interests and do as they please as they are completely unaccountable to anyone because the way our economy is set up you have to do business with them one way or another with very few exceptions. Rule by private unaccountable entities is what Global Capitalism is, the genie is not going back in the bottle no matter how much wailing about tariffs or whining about praxeology or promising to bring jobs back from whatever third-world hell hole they've gone off to now is going to change that. We are stuck with this and all the increasingly totalitarian measures it will bring until whatever is going to replace it comes along or we all burn in nuclear flames.

The sad thing is we used to run to America to escape communism. Where do we run to now? America isn't becoming communist. It would become full on fascist before it would become communist. Yeah, Bernie Sanders is a New Deal Keynesian or Social Democrat at most and comparing that to the Marxist-Leninist states of last century is a stretch, to put it lightly. Although the memes as Bernie as a dictator are pretty funny. As to why the fellow is confused as to why so many are turning to Bernie Sanders, I have to wonder if he's been living in a cave the last few years. You have a generation of people who came of age in economic times where the choice is often between minimum wage and welfare, with crippling debt for their Bachelor's degree which is roughly equivalent to what a high school for their parents, and unable to even move out of their parent's house because rent is unmanageable with their debt. Add to this that they came of age after the fall of the Soviet Union and red scare messaging, that their republic is rife with corruption and misdeeds, and that the recent financial crisis which caused a huge amount of misery was caused by banks and it is no wonder that they would be open to solutions previous generation would have considered radical.

If we're being honest none of them will be able to change the system. So I guess we're stuck with oligarchy.

I think our mods are all right, and I'm not just saying that because I'm pandering to the mod vote for my campaign for President of the Way Off-Topic.

So he's working on a game featuring stick figures?

I blame the Hibernians for SJWs. ****ing micks.

Seeing as the Donald imports his wives, declaring war on immigrants would be as odd as declaring war on Jews when his daughter is about to pop out a "beautiful Jewish baby".

The solution is to kill both the bear and the lion and make it so no fledgling bear or lion is able to eat you.

The corporations control most people's bank accounts and income as well as control the food supply, shelter, utilities, and pretty much everything else. The vast majority of people can't pull a Ted Kaczynski and are forced to interact with these behemoths one way or another if they want to survive. Not being scared of something that directly influences and controls your survival is insane. That's like blaming guns for murder. I don't think I have to explain to you why that's dumb. Then they will simply build another that can be used against you. Perhaps they'll call it "private security contractor" or something but they would certainly build something that can protect their interests with force.

Ok, the government is very small and has little power. So one of these guys instead shows up as a head of a multinational corporation and ****s up a lot of people's lives that way. With the TPP making a lot of governance subservient to large corporations and the recent financial crisis this isn't outside the realm of possibility.

Not going to happen. Such conditions are created with a multitude of factors independent of each other and aren't going to be controlled.

I'm not entirely convinced those two capabilities can be meaningfully differentiated when one tries to assess the overall quality of a leader. Depends on the objective criteria of the discussion I guess. There is no questioning his quality as a human being (or lack thereof). He did lead his country out of ruin it's true. And after that right back into it. Can anyone think of a leader that was an evil SOB who was a good leader but in the end did more good than harm?I know I'm drawing a blank. All highly debatable but...Genghis Khan, Andrew Jackson, Stalin, Pope Julius II, Pope Alexander VI, and George Steinbrenner. Stalin? No f-ing way. That guy was net loss all the way. The others... meh. But the last one.... good answer. Under Stalin the Soviet Union rapidly industrialized to the point of being able to rival, in military and scientific matters, the United States. Pretty impressive given that it was a largely unindustrialized backwater(it was just starting to industrialize when the overthrow and Russian Civil War happened) when he took control. You can very well argue his methods were monstrous, but denying his brutal push for industrialization and infrastructure didn't catapult the SU to world power status is sticking your head in the sand. That's because the economic miracle Germany achieved was due to firing up a war economy. Of course speculating on the long term viability is engaging in alternate history theory craft and it would be hard to say if Germany could have transitioned to a peace time economy under Nazi rule assuming the Great Depression ended.

Are you raising it 5 feet? If so you could probably build a wall along the US-Mexico border for the same amount.

We never discuss games here. And I'd wager more than half the people posting in this thread haven't played it. I certainly haven't, because from what views I've read from people with similar tastes I'd be better served playing BGT with SCS.

I sexually identify as Marco Rubio. Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of dispelling with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. People say to me that a person being Marco Rubio is impossible and I'm ****ing retarded but I don't care, I'm dispelling with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. I'm having a surgeon install the ability to dispel with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what's doing, and the ability to know exactly what he's doing. From now on I want you guys to call me "President" and respect my right to dispel with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing. If you can't accept me you're trying to change this country and need to check your Chris Christie privilege. Thank you for being so understanding that I'm dispelling with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing.

He's actually toned some things down and pandered to democrats on others(like gun control). Disappointing, but I get why he does it given how democrats are. And now Trump is saying Bernie should run as an independent. I doubt he will(much like Ron Paul didn't), but a four way race with Sanders and Trump as independent would be glorious.

Bernie supporters will absolutely support Clinton in the general.

I know what to do with a woman 20 years my junior, find her parentsand tell them to watch their 4-year old better.

Then I'm out.

I do, there's nothing like seeing a tattoo in a place a bikini covered.

Of course. With lips so loose they flap in the breeze.

The government poisons people due to it's incompetence and negligence; so you now kinda want the government to have a complete monopoly over all resources? That seems like backward logic to me.Maybe he wants to go full Makhno and destroy the government while letting people use resources as they see fit? Would that even count as socialist? I usually think of socialism as public sector control of resources. Having resources completely free and available suggests no entity; not even the public sector is in control of it. Yes. It's complicated but socialism is a big mess of tendencies that can't agree on anything(including what "public" means) and hate each other.

The government poisons people due to it's incompetence and negligence; so you now kinda want the government to have a complete monopoly over all resources? That seems like backward logic to me. Maybe he wants to go full Makhno and destroy the government while letting people use resources as they see fit? "Pure Coincidence" Of course, there was no foul play here. Dispel such notions from your mind and let's work towards fixing this without damaging anyone's career or finances. Everything will be just fine.