Merin

Just to be clear, too... while the 4E paladin had to be divine power based and worship a god - they are not forced to be "lawful good." They can be any alignment. In fact, 4E kind of did away with the traditional alignment system of previous editions. It only had Lawful Good, Good, Evil, Chaotic Evil and Unaligned (which, if you didn't care about alignment, you chose that one - it's not the same as old school True Neutral - in fact, they painstakingly did away with the word Neutral.)

Okay, new update - http://www.kickstart...al/posts/325470 a snippet - Still sounds good to me. You can make James female.

I think once PE is done they can start getting some attention. And campaigns can be turned around quite well - Takedown and Shadowrun Online were ones that, very near the end, didn't look like they'd make it. The only thing keeping me from guaranteeing this will succeed - is the million dollar goal. If they were shooting for 400-500k, I'd say they almost couldn't fail. But a million... well, despite the last year or so of success stories, there are not that many one million dollar raising KS's. So I think they are completely within the realm of the possible... but they need some help. Like doing some interviews, getting some evangelists. DoubleFine got a huge bump, early, because Felicia Day posted about supporting it. They need some endorsements from people who have followings who'd be interested in this game, just to get some notice. And by endorsements, I mean places other than the KS Campaign's pitch page. As simple as getting some other KS game's to support them with a donation would be a big help in their credibility, I think.

Atmosphere is certainly the correct descriptor.

Warlord is an awesome class in 4E. It's really nice to have healing not come from magic all the time. I never got to play a Warlord yet... but I have hopes.

If he wasn't busy with his own company and his own project right now, I'd say Brian Mitsoda.

Yea, I must have been pissed about something and I took it out on you I still don't think the'll make it, though. I hope they will, but the numbers paint a sad picture. It's easy to read too much into stuff. I wasn't trying to attack you, just quoting what you wrote to continue a conversation. All good.

The hall will be a place you have to find in the game. You don't start there, and you can't start the game with a fully pre-built party. At least that seems to be what has been indicated.

Let's all celebrate the addition of the merc who does any job for the right price, Paladin! .... wait, what you do mean that's not what this is all about?

Adding a $25-30 add-on for the tiers to get a 'free' copy of the expansion? That doesn't make sense. All you're doing is buying the expansion. Yeah, make it $50. We are donating well above cost of the items we are being rewarded with for donating. Think of the prices as if the Pentagon was ordering it.... okay, maybe not $500 toilet seats, but still.

One of the best updates yes.

Have you seen the reactions around here? We're hitting 2.8 if several forum regulars have to go rob a bank.

Buy it and play it. NWN2 OC is far better than NWN OC. And MotB... well, I won't rave about it like so many others do, but it is pretty good. There are some amazing moments, for certain (I'll say corpse, planes, and Myrkul... and leave it at that.)

so.... happy....

I'm so happy that people have to go through Adventurer's Hall and Paladins to get to him. All but guarantees I get what I want. Oh, happy for the rest of you, too.

Dang-it, I was gonna post that!

I cheer this achievement... as it brings me that much closer to my Adventurer's Hall.

Hey, no, I agree. Mostly. Where we are at, now, I think they need the $190-200 tier. We're stuck, they already made the announcement and such as is. It would be a bad idea to switch the expansion to all or $25 NOW. To be clear - switching NOW is BAD. I think you'd lose negligible people in doing so, but why even lose those people at this point? The $190-200 tier is the answer. You get a few more people spending fifty more dollars - win / win. To dig DEEPER in the $25 or more, however, and how that COULD HAVE worked - here's the ticket from a different thread that I posted before the expansion was announced -

too many posts - combining

Honestly - you're "genuine concern" is noted. Thanks for the condescension. Mate. You're ability to read through text whether someone needs to calm down is fascinating. Tell me, what am I feeling right now as I respond to you? Go on, guess! ------------------------------------------------------ yeah, you know, if it was just that video.... I understand. But, sadly, here's the thing. What's the biggest advice that Kickstarter, the site, gives campaigns? http://www.kickstart...king_your_video Pitch videos almost never work on me, personally. Though I think Brian Fargo and Tim Schafer had very funny ones - that's also the problem. Old School RPG tried that model of humor (as have others) and humor is hard. It comes across as forced and weird because they mostly failed at being Brian Fargo and Tim Schafer.

They build the engine and the assets with a certain set of money. Once that work is done they need to create the story and encounters. It's not that hard to understand. It's not an either/or or split thing like you say. They aren't going to have to recreate the tools for the second game. If they have the funding, some crossover work becomes possible and working on the two together is cheaper than working on two separate games entirely, if you understand what I'm saying. If it doesn't look good enough to you or what you are interested in, that's your call.

Thank you. Icewind Dale is one of the games I've replayed the most. I've tried PS:T three times and never finished it, tried Baldur's Gate a half-dozen times and never finished it. To each their own. We're getting a mix of the games. Stop worrying!

Most other Kickstarters that I followed, when there was offers of "exclusive this for backers" (not even "exclusive content for higher tiers, even) there was a general uproar about everyone actually wanting all content available to everyone who gets the game. Now this isn't exactly "exclusive to some backers" as anyone can buy the product later ... but I seriously doubt people are going to pull their backing because the project has been so well funded that everyone who'd donated enough to get the game also gets the expansion. And those twelve people who are that selfish? Obsidian will be just as huge a success without them. I usually agree with you most of the time, merin, but the idea struck me as bad also. It's not because I think folks would necessarily reduce their pledges, but because it seems like a slap in the face to all those folks who agonized over coughing up more money to the project and finally bit the bullet and did so. Those folks, some of whom could ill-afford it, put their money up front because they felt the need while other, some of whom could easily afford the extra expenditure, held back. I don't have a horse in this race and I'll clearly not withdraw or reduce my pledge, but I think it's bogus to reward folks for not pledging at the expense of those folks who, from this update forward, ponied up the cash. I think what you've seen me advocating is that there be a new $190-200 tier so people can upgrade from $140, keep their physical goodies, and add the expansion in. Is that what you are disagreeing with? Because that's my stance. I was just saying that I bet FEW people made the $140 to $250 jump for the expansion. I'm sure some did, but of 50k backers it'd likely be less that .1%. And if those 230+ people who jumped from $110 to $165 would drop back to $110, all of them (because this would be assuming that Obsidian would just, you know, bone-headedly strip out the point of the $165 tier without adding something else into it) you'd see Eternity lose about $13k. Sad, yes, but I'd bet you'd make it up in new pledges or people jumping up from the $20 to the $25 pledge amount (which is where it'd be smart to put the expansion - just above the biggest glut of donators and at a level that is easy for almost anyone to up their pledge!) You'd need just over 2500 of those 25000 backers to jump up 5 dollars to make up the losses if they did that. I mean, that's math and statistics. They had, what, 700 backers at the $110 level? Even if all jumped to $165, which most wouldn't, it's not nearly as much as you'd get from a third of the largest concentration of backers, the 25000, jumping up $5. Which seems more likely to happen? And then there'd be more "$20 game only" slots opened back up and more people donating at that level. But, again, I'm not saying they SHOULD do that... it's too late. They went another way and can't backtrack at this point without tipping over the apple cart and upsetting people who are looking to be upset. What I'm saying they should do is add a $190-200 tier. And this isn't for me. I can't add anymore money, I'm set where I'm at. I'm speaking for the good of the campaign as a whole. If I had the resources, I'd be in at the $1000. Trust me.

Could it be that something could like both DA:O and BG without having to judge them against each other in some unnecessary "either/or" dichotomy? This is something that always baffles me - is it possible that someone could simultaneously enjoy Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto, Diablo, Angry Birds, Farmville and Planescape: Torment? I mean, the way some people post it's like they only like one very specific range of game mechanics and anyone who hazards to mention liking, say, the action combat from Arkham Asylum is suddenly the enemy. A person can love Phantasie, Wizard's Crown and Bard's Tale and still love Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind Dale and Fallout, and also love Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, Alpha Protocol and Mass Effect. It can happen. And they can not want game mechanics from any one of those games to have to "infect" all the others. Some people come across as entirely too obsessive about their one type of game. Dragon Age: Origins wasn't a copy of Baldur's Gate. Doesn't mean someone can't have liked both, warts and all on both.