Nonek

I agree that it's farcical focusing on race, except for research in the field, we are after all only a few percent away from literally being bananas.

I'm sorry old chap but i've travelled all over our sceptered isle and even the native Britons who seem to share some dna with the Basques are not swarthy, you do find in Scotland, Wales and Ireland dark haired and eyed individuals but they're as pale as all native islanders. Us native English are usually fair haired (usually brown) and eyed, come visit and see old boy. Of course there are modern orange people, but they're dyed and made up to be that way.

Because of their degenerate fans sickening attraction to virtual romances, this seems obvious. They don't have to make good games when they can make poor dating sims, and make the same profit. Also rather than making detailed and well written characters it's far easier to make them all Hawkesexual, a good cost cutting measure, and they can pander to the SJF's even while making those characters idle, unmotivated, incompetent idiots. But are you saying there is some impediment to men, women or children playing games? Because I can't think of any. Please provide examples.

I'd rather have Mr Sawyers blunt honesty and dedication than the usual PR drivel, the gentleman has a vision and i've enjoyed that in previous games, and though critical of certain elements I paid for the game that Obsidian wanted to make. I do feel that the gentleman comes in for some unfair criticism, though i'm sure he has broad enough shoulders to handle it.

I see you couldn't resist mentioning Isabella's clothes...you are a naughty boy Nonek....a very naughty boy Yes you right, the objectification of women in games can be subjective. For example I think the lovely Isabella represents a perfectly acceptable female character but for many she objectifies women. I suppose you can't please everyone. But take the latest Duke Nukem game, I played it and thought the female representation in that game positioned women in an insulting and vacuous way Also you are right in the sense a developer can create any game they want with no regard to what people may think. For example a developer can create a game where black people are seen symbolically as monkeys or where only gay people are the targets of a killing spree. But then they must accept the SJ storm that will descend on them and the obvious and understandable criticism that will follow To be aware of what some fans will expect from a game or rather won't accept is not hard to understand. Many development companies already do this as I mentioned, its not a big deal So what you are saying is let market forces decide? If so I utterly agree, that is the only true test of a games worth in the long run. And if a game deals with brave subject matter such as racism and homophobia, like the examples you mentioned, I would positively applaud it for presenting a realistic depiction of the world, rather than shying away from content that is not politically correct. So in summary developers can make what they want, the market will judge them and games are and always have been inclusive to almost everybody. Men, women and children. I'm glad that's settled.

Objectification of women, isn't that totally subjective and dependant on context? Some dislike the stylisation of Dragons Crown with its very powerful but sexualised male and female characters, others dislike the brain dead slaves of Bioware whom follow the protagonist for years at a time for no good reason, and cannot do anything themselves, or even dress themselves for the climate or combat. It's a personal matter isn't it? So long as they suit the games aesthetic nothing should be out of bounds in my opinion, with obvious exceptions. More female protagonists, isn't this up to the developer and the story they wish to tell? I mean if they want a genderless AI, a Nubian eunuch, a Lovecraftian alien entity or any thing else that is totally up to them isn't it, or are you saying that they must make content according to your dictates? Shouldn't they design what they want to? Amy Hennig a veteran designer and industry stalwart makes some of the best male characters around, who exactly am I to dictate to her what she wants to make? Chris Avellone writes some of the finest female characters in games, I would not whine at him and demand he make Kreia a man. Edit: In fact another even better example of supposed objectification of women is the Witcher 2, which supposedly is proudly misogynist. Yet it has some of the the best written, most able, powerful, self motivated and intrinsically linked to the plot female characters in any video game. Philippa Eilhart outwits the protagonist, almost seizes a kingdom, reshapes the north, beards a Dragon and launches a moral crusade for equality, and yet many SJF's would have us believe that she is a weak addendum to the plot, when she in fact drives it far more than virtually any man in the game, certainly more than the protagonist.

So what would you like to know about the word inclusivity, I assume you mean in the context of what we ask for when we say " us SJW want games to be more inclusive" ? What I said in my previous post.

There are various strongholds of one of the two dominant dna types (Briton and Germanic) in the British Isles, for instance Cumbria has quite a high population of Norse (Norwegian) dna, in its mix of Briton and Germanic sources. Anglia and parts of Yorkshire are very heavily Anglo Saxon/Danish, indeed visiting Mrs Nonek's relative in their little village, one is struck by the amount of blue eyed and blond haired natives there are. The Isle of Man has mainly native Briton blood, but with a healthy dash of Norse, which is also reflected in there language. Could Mannannan have been a half Norseman? Unfortunately the two Roman legions, Normanni conquerors and other groups didn't really affect the dna makeup at all, leaving the two dominant dna groups largely untouched. One a Germanic, Frankish and Scandinavian supplanting and interbreeding with the indigenous Britons. You can still see the differing skull shapes, colouring and various genetic cues if you travel the Isles extensively today. Very interesting in my opinion, especially the changes in regional accents, traditions and culture. Interestingly enough one of the only shared cultural elements is the Black Dog, whether it is called Shuck, Shagga, the Barghest, Padfoot or what have you. One thing is sure though Scotland is not so very different in a dna sense from their brethren south of Hadrians, but then again no man is massively different from any other the world over.

Chronic masturbators? Seriously though I fail to see what inclusivity measures need to be included for games to aid minorities, colour blind mode is a very nice addition, as is a game that can be played mouse only for those whom are movement restricted, subtitles are good for the deaf, but all these are already being implemented to some degree. The wife has no problem playing games, except with poorly designed and insulting caricatures like Isabella (and fairly much all of the other poorly written characters) in Dragon Age 2, dragging quality down. And she does not mind playing as a man, an alien, a robot or a woman as it is escapism. I'm curious what more is needed? The fact that women now outnumber men in some forms of gaming says to me that it is inclusive already, are they overcoming hurdles to do this? It would be nice to see more ethnically diverse worlds, and that is something i've long hoped and campaigned for, though obviously not at the cost of the worlds internal consistency. In a dark age or medieval setting where there is no magical transportation, and the average man or woman rarely ventures beyond the local market town, ethnic diversity will not be as feasible, except at seaports and recognised trade-routes. Crossroads of the world such as Byzantium, where one can see a great mass of peoples from all over the world, drink in foreign cultures and become lost in the bustle and pace of the exotic. Or Rome where all Christendom comes in pilgrimage, traders come to partake of the legendary wealth and emissaries from far distant lands arrive to politic and spy. I'd be curious to hear what inclusivity measures are needed.

Yes quite enthused by that trailer, very Torment-ish ambience. Was that little quote at the end Mr Fargo's subtle dig at the SJF's? After all the gentleman is a gamer, formed a company that had the tagline, by gamers, for gamers and now is supposedly after decades of advancing game development judged to be a hindrance to the industry.

And now gentlemen, please be upstanding for the Patriarchy's first Public Service Announcement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sehy5EgR_pk

A fantastic and very professional summation, very well done Mr Palior, it left me enormously enthused for the product.

I am more Ogre-ish I think.

To be fair; his mustache does make him look like a molester. That is because he is a proud member of the Patriarchy, in essence we molest the world, thus our whiskers are entirely warranted. What else would we stroke, while we cackle manically as our Patriarchal plans unfurl? Persian cats are so outdated.

No I would say it's a very small minority on the internet whom do not represent the majority, whom deplore their actions and have stated so repeatedly. Most reasonable moderates are in no way, shape or form prejudiced against women, as many are married, have female kin and are born of and respect their mothers. The issue I find disturbing is the hate and dehumanisation that the game journalist friends of Ms Quinn are indulging in, blaming millions for the actions of these few, not only is this intellectually bankrupt, it also mirrors the actions of those they are supposedly making a moral stand against. Both sides to me come off as fanatics, far too invested and slightly unhinged, to the point where anybody whom is not for them is automatically equated as being against them and guilty of all the sins they can think of. It is the debating tactic of children, demonise the opposition to lionise oneself, and it just propogates hatred and group think mentality. We have seen this before many times, and sometimes it has born bitter fruit. I'm against both sides, and would prefer that we stick to facts. The gaming press is in general unfit for purpose, they need a watchdog to monitor them, they need journalistic codes of conduct, they need to have some basic ethics and integrity, and they need to distance themselves from the medium they report on and strive to judge it in an unbiased and objective manner. They certainly cannot have sexual relationships or be friends with developers. That is a clear conflict of interest. But most of all I would say that they need to respect their customers. Enough that they do not feel they have the right to preach at them about issues, enough so that they feel beholden to them to serve their interests, and enough so that they do not feel they have a right to equate millions of innocent gamers with a handful of radicals. As for Ms Quinn, I am sorry for her trials and tribulations, but I am not my brothers keeper and I do not even use Twitter or Facebook. I suggest she concentrate on repairing her personal life, ignore the harassment while the police investigate it, and do something constructive rather than focus on the negative view many have of her for her adultery and suspected corruption.

Funny, I visit the knocking shop to get beaten up, humiliated, spat upon, whipped and electrocuted. Like any normal gentleman, you perverts.

The blade in question looks like an arming sword more than a longsword, but it was not unknown for a sword to be called just that, most terminology was reserved for foreign weapons like the famous Spanish sword and imposed by modern sources for accurate archaeological catagerisation.

As I remember every class had a level name, don't know why, they were all fairly random.

AD&D 1st edition Magic User level titles aren't they?

Though not participating in the beta myself I too offer my thanks to Sensuki and all of the ladies and gentlemen whom are participating, it is very much appreciated.

Elemental: Destiny's Embers?

NOT MEG RYAN! FOR PITYS SAKE, SPARE ME THE RYAN! Sorry showed emotion there for a moment, upper lip and buttocks stiffened Sir. I'll be there.

We are men, manly men doing manly things, we cannot lose. Our Patriarchy has designed the world this way!

Revered, significant and bulging members of the Patriarchy. I present myself before you in shame, my head held low. In my own home I have been cuckolded. The woman (me good lady wife) whom I should be oppressing and manipulating, as any husband is commited to doing, is flagrantly flaunting her enjoyment and making a mockery of our marriage. Her beau, the popular online card game Hearthstone, a game that is taking up her time, thoughts, attentiveness and I fear reverence for my undauntable masculinity. I have informed her repeatedly that this game is not for her, that it is designed for men alone, that she cannot hope to compete at a reasonable level because only men are able to do so. She has refuted each one of my points, in a display of brazen temerity, made clear that she enjoys it, and has played with a number of other ladies, some of whom are quite high in the rankings. She then had the gall to challenge my dominance of all I survey by challenging me to a contest, of course I declined stating that ever since Wizards did what they did to AD&D that I have sworn off all related products. A good thing too, as I fear she would have spanked me like a virgin watching his first pornographic movie. What say you gentlemen? How can we reiterate to minorities, women, anybody slightly swarthy, Aliens and the Welsh, that our white, Anglo Saxon, fiercely heterosexual, privileged passtime is not for them? Now I hear many rash words now about how anybody could play, and indeed did, since they were young the video games that are made for and by us subhuman scum. What they do not understand is that we do not tolerate such inclusivity, we resist it with every fibre of our being, as do the developers whom ideally wish to only sell a dozen copies to friends and acquaintances. And thus not sully the perfection of that shining, beautiful creation. Inclusivity gentlemen, it is worth fighting against. Personally I think that DNA scanners must be researched and implanted into all entertainment products, ones that will briefly tell the recipient that they are unworthy of sharing our passtime, pass on their details to our Patriarchal Upnet System for Surveilance of Yahoos, and then self destruct with a small, contained thermonuclear reaction. Yours tyrannically. Nonek. P.S. I submit myself for electro flagelattion at any specified date and time for failing to control my little woman, any days good for me, i'll bring the nipple clamps. Tata.

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