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I wonder where they got that idea. May be from the first African American president? Well thats exactly what it seemed you were suggesting from the post above but no matter, it was just a misunderstanding That post inferred Obama gave them the idea Police were trying to kill blacks.
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Chappie. I actually really liked it. Chappie was a fantastic character. I wasn't disappointed at all.
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It used to be that the left wanted to regulate the economy and the right wanted to regulate your morals, but now its the left wants to regulate the economy and your morals, and the right has no idea what it wants.
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Playing devils advocate. I think that the BLM movement would say that their entire goal was to push these particular incidents into the picture because of how badly they've been getting marginalized by the system, and that despite our attempts otherwise, policing hasn't changed much in terms of culture since the Rodney King beating in the nineties. I think that one of the things that has been stated as being a possible solution in the long run (and to address several issues about oversight) would be to nationalize the police forces. Because as it stands right now, each individual city having it's own police force that has it's own budget and reports to itself means that it's incredibly easy for abuses to be swept under the rug. (Did hear a BLM movement member wonder why over 50% of LA's city budget runs right into the LAPD) Well, almost 60% of the LA population is black or latino, so they would need a big police force /racism
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I don't blame all BLM for it, though they are responsible for creating an environment where these incidences are more likely. But responsibility is solely in the hands if the asshats who carried it out.
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I'm going to speculate a BLM supporter.
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Perfectly fine. our initial reaction is to be suspicious o' the results. one wonders what questions were actual asked... have seen crazy numbers in the past that is explained when one sees what respondents were actual questioned. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/ft_15-11-17_isis_views/ HA! Good Fun! Yeah, I can't imagine thats the result of the overall French population. The French Muslim population maybe, but 27% of young people supporting ISIS seems pretty daft unless 60% of young people in France are Muslim.
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Games you want that'll likely never exist
Oerwinde replied to Barothmuk's topic in Computer and Console
Been playing Wolfenstein: The New Order. I love the setting, and either an X-Com style tactical game where you can build your resistance base and do missions against the Nazis would be cool. Or a Bioware-like cinematic RPG. -
Mostly been playing Hearts of Iron IV, but paused to do a run of EUIV after I grabbed a bunch of DLC during the steam sale. Booted up the copy of Wolfenstein: The New Order I got around Christmas, and am loving it.
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Finished bingeing Avatar: The Last Airbender. Now we need to catch up on Orphan Black, Killjoys, and Dark Matter before the new PVR gets here in a couple weeks.
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Now you've made me genuinely curious... who are these many other EU countries? We can rule out France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, just guessing now, a lot of the eastern European EU countries, Spain, Greece, Sweden. No idea what things are like in Italy, Portugal or Austria (or the Swiss for that matter) are doing. In the UK, it's a mixed bag, more a problem between cultural divides than ethnic divides (those groups who adopted the UK way of life seems to be thriving well enough). Edit to add: What you have in several of the countries I listed above is host countries trapped between a rock and a hard place. Immigrants who seems militantly adverse to adjusting to their new host country's values and the host country having to chose between either rejecting immigrants (being branded as all kinds of inhuman), force immigrants to embrace new values (effectively giving up core parts of old values/cultures and being labelled cultural fascists), try to turn a blind eye in the name of political correctness and watch blood run in the streets. Don't know about the rest of Italy, but I heard the mafia is executing migrants in the streets because they are trying to form rival criminal organizations. The mayor of Palermo declared it a middle eastern city in Europe and "thats a good thing" I really don't understand this self-hate thing going on in Europe. People celebrating becoming a minority in their own country. I think the historical term for them is "collaborators", and they aren't usually looked at kindly by history.
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Most Muslims in France are citizens of France (being old colonist super power has habit to make country's population diverse) and most terrorists in past couple dark years has been home grown. So what you're saying is even with generations to integrate, they are still a dangerous presence.
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Hot Tub Time Machine 2. I loved the first one, this one felt like a direct to video sequel. Had some good jokes that made me lol a few times, but overall was not good.
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I understand what motivates them. A false sense of victimhood. They think white people owe them because of their feelings. They externalize their failings, when they need to take responsibility.
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But Volo you are comparing a modern movement for greater recognition and fairness from how the police treats them to a fundamentally racist white supremacist movement founded after the civil war...its terrible comparison and completely unfair They aren't for greater recognition and fairness. They are an organization based on lies. Black criminals are killed by police at the same rate they are arrested for crimes. White criminals are killed by police at the same rate they are arrested for crimes. There is a disproportionate amount of blacks in prison because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. There is no big conspiracy by the government or white people to oppress and kill blacks, they have been taught that there is though, so they act accordingly. They also have a culture that glorifies criminals. They also seem to be in denial about what kind of people these guys are too. You can hardly describe a guy with multiple domestic abuse convictions, multiple prison sentences, a warrant for his arrest for failing to register as a sex offender who is carrying an illegal weapon while owing 25,000 in child support as a "good man" As for earlier, if they reform their methods, and actually take their name seriously and start tackling the real problems of violence in the black community, then maybe I will respect them as an organization. Right now they are a hate group with 5 deaths under their belt. Okay I am not going to give up on this point http://blacklivesmatter.com/guiding-principles/ You should read some of there principles before you say they stand for racsim ..for example see below Black Lives Matter is an ideological and political intervention in a world where Black lives are systematically and intentionally targeted for demise. It is an affirmation of Black folks’ contributions to this society, our humanity, and our resilience in the face of deadly oppression. There is not systemic targeting of blacks. They are founded on a lie. Also, actions speak louder than words, and their actions are racist.
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But Volo you are comparing a modern movement for greater recognition and fairness from how the police treats them to a fundamentally racist white supremacist movement founded after the civil war...its terrible comparison and completely unfair They aren't for greater recognition and fairness. They are an organization based on lies. Black criminals are killed by police at the same rate they are arrested for crimes. White criminals are killed by police at the same rate they are arrested for crimes. There is a disproportionate amount of blacks in prison because they commit a disproportionate amount of crime. There is no big conspiracy by the government or white people to oppress and kill blacks, they have been taught that there is though, so they act accordingly. They also have a culture that glorifies criminals. They also seem to be in denial about what kind of people these guys are too. You can hardly describe a guy with multiple domestic abuse convictions, multiple prison sentences, a warrant for his arrest for failing to register as a sex offender who is carrying an illegal weapon while owing 25,000 in child support as a "good man" As for earlier, if they reform their methods, and actually take their name seriously and start tackling the real problems of violence in the black community, then maybe I will respect them as an organization. Right now they are a hate group with 5 deaths under their belt.
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Also, do you think there's some collective group think where a person is shot and killed, a criminal record a mile long and possibly a child molester, depending on the colour of their skin will determine if there's community outrage or not? If it's a white guy, other white people may declare good riddance, scum, etc. if it's a black guy, then black people will point the finger at the cops with outrage? When I saw the video of the guy selling cd's, that was murder. But if it was a white guy with the same criminal record, would there have been so much outrage by white people? Or would we have seen white people say things like 'no loss'. I think had it been a white guy it wouldn't have even hit the media. But if it did, it would have been like most white killings by police, a combo of decrying the police for overreacting, and a "well, if he didn't have an illegal weapon..."Oerwinde you are deep thinker, you research stuff and I appreciate your perspective on topics even if we differ on some things, i would like to share something with you about this BLM movement This whole BLM is more complex but also more simpler on some levels than it may appear but I would like to ask you an important question, at the end of this current wave of BLM there are two main views (and I mean the people like us who do debate these things )most white people will have You can feel highly annoyed, possibly resentful and concerned about certain societal inconsistencies around the overall behavior of BLM You can be at ease because you understand the greater narrative of a movement like BLM, this doesnt mean you justify bad behavior it just means you have an understanding Which one would you prefer?I don't like BLM. They attack their allies, vandalize, attack charitable events and rallies, and if people don't submit to their bullying and intimidation, try to brand them as racist. They have done more to erode race relations than any other entity since the KKK. I can understand this may be your view, I'm not going to try to change your views as I consider you a reasonable person My view is about an understanding of aspects of history and the current reality of certain social conditions. But please consider this, BLM will be with us forever. Going forward it will become one of the various SJ initiatives we see and people support Dont see this as bad thing, its just a reality. So going forward as BLM gets representation in its own way throughout the world especially in Western Democracies you will be confronted by it....do you really want to constantly think about in the same light as the KKK? Are you saying I should change my view on them because the truth is uncomfortable? Because thats what it sounds like you're saying. These people hijacked a vigil for the victims of the Orlando shooting and tried to make it about race. They shouted racist rhetoric at students studying in a library, they shut down a pride parade until they agreed to expel police floats and make BLM the guests of honor. They attacked a charity fundraiser for sick kids because they wouldn't stop fundraising for sick kids to march with them about diversity in college. They shut down a Bernie Sanders rally, the one candidate arrested for marching for civil rights and who has fought for equality his whole life, because he didn't care enough about black people. If BLM could get away with it, they would be lynching white people. They are a black supremecist group founded because a cop killed a guy who robbed a store and tried to take his gun after assaulting him. If black lives matter, maybe they should focus on why the vast majority of black people are murdered by other black people.
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Also, do you think there's some collective group think where a person is shot and killed, a criminal record a mile long and possibly a child molester, depending on the colour of their skin will determine if there's community outrage or not? If it's a white guy, other white people may declare good riddance, scum, etc. if it's a black guy, then black people will point the finger at the cops with outrage? When I saw the video of the guy selling cd's, that was murder. But if it was a white guy with the same criminal record, would there have been so much outrage by white people? Or would we have seen white people say things like 'no loss'. I think had it been a white guy it wouldn't have even hit the media. But if it did, it would have been like most white killings by police, a combo of decrying the police for overreacting, and a "well, if he didn't have an illegal weapon..." Oerwinde you are deep thinker, you research stuff and I appreciate your perspective on topics even if we differ on some things, i would like to share something with you about this BLM movement This whole BLM is more complex but also more simpler on some levels than it may appear but I would like to ask you an important question, at the end of this current wave of BLM there are two main views (and I mean the people like us who do debate these things )most white people will have You can feel highly annoyed, possibly resentful and concerned about certain societal inconsistencies around the overall behavior of BLM You can be at ease because you understand the greater narrative of a movement like BLM, this doesnt mean you justify bad behavior it just means you have an understanding Which one would you prefer? I don't like BLM. They attack their allies, vandalize, attack charitable events and rallies, and if people don't submit to their bullying and intimidation, try to brand them as racist. They have done more to erode race relations than any other entity since the KKK.
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Also, do you think there's some collective group think where a person is shot and killed, a criminal record a mile long and possibly a child molester, depending on the colour of their skin will determine if there's community outrage or not? If it's a white guy, other white people may declare good riddance, scum, etc. if it's a black guy, then black people will point the finger at the cops with outrage? When I saw the video of the guy selling cd's, that was murder. But if it was a white guy with the same criminal record, would there have been so much outrage by white people? Or would we have seen white people say things like 'no loss'. I think had it been a white guy it wouldn't have even hit the media. But if it did, it would have been like most white killings by police, a combo of decrying the police for overreacting, and a "well, if he didn't have an illegal weapon..."
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I think a major thing is, and I'm only speaking with knowledge of the white side so the other is an assumption, white people are generally raised to respect police, black people are taught to fear them. So the reaction white people generally have when a white guy is killed by police is "what did he do to deserve it?“, with Black people it seems like "OMG the pigs are trying to wipe us out!"
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Yet you seem to be quite dismayed at the thought of a unified European culture growing, expanding and subsuming national identities. Why can't we just let national identity die in peace naturally? That's beyond stupid. The health, productivity and general quality-of-life benefits of love, friendship and "beauty" are very tangible and measurable. Two reasons: 1) It's being replaced by something lower in principle, of which no one is willing defend to the death. It will not satisfy anyone and give rise to real marching right/left-wing parties and another war, which is what i want to avoid for the next generation. 2) The power is centralised if national governments shift their power to Brussels, which will end with continental size warfare unlike anything seen before. Don't fool yourself just because we currently live in relatively peaceful times that it will continue forever if you give up on nations. Both are destructive in the design and i wish to move away from it for a better future. Nation states might erode, but power has to shift to locally with their own laws, hierarchies and armies. That kind of "death" we can all get behind; I would even call it rebirth. As for your quantification of love, friendship and beauty. Oh boy, i pity that mindset. It seems to me that you think their is some kind of spiritual benefit of a nation state. Namutree whats your ideal system of government in 2016, lets so you can implement anything. What would you go for ? I know its not my question to answer, but I like Canada's constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary representative democracy. I do wish we had our own monarch in residence though. I just like the pomp and ceremony of a monarchy, the culture it brings, the continuous representation of the nation, etc. And with constitutionally limited powers, you avoid the pitfalls of an unelected monarch as well. Mostly a figurehead, but I would like to grant a budget for pet projects, so the monarch can put their personal mark on the nation without really interfering in the day to day lives of people. I like fancy monuments and such, so granting the monarch a budget for building civic buildings to their taste, setting up monuments, etc. Most of the most beloved historical landmarks were just the vanity projects of kings, so I would like to enable that a bit. I would just change the electoral system to something more proportional, so that people can vote for who they support, rather than the one that has the best chance of beating the guy you hate.
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Odd thing, first time I watched it, it did look like he was diving into his car frantically, so I understood the cop drawing his gun, firing it like he did was crazy though. Rewatched it, and it didn't look so frantic.
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There is no talk of any of the whites killed by police. Blacks and whites are killed in line with their proportion of arrests. 50% of arrests made are whites, 50% of people killed by police are white. 30% of arrests made are black, 30% of people killed by police are black. Considering blacks are 4x more likely to resist arrest than whites, thats actually pretty incredible.
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People don't like Dark Superman. Didn't like Batman murdering people, Lex Luthor was terrible, the reason for Batman and Superman fighting was dumb, and their reason for becoming buds was bad too. Those were my major gripes.
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I really enjoyed the movie. I'm a fan of Space Opera and didn't really care about the little inconsistencies because rule of cool.