BruceVC

Fair enough, bots could have influenced the Trump vote on Twitter, I guess we will never know But we know elections arent free and fair in Russia, NK and Iran because people get arrested, poisoned or they dont have elections like in NK

I like those Legos memes Do you know the majority of black people in the US dont support defunding of the police and never have? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/black-americans-overwhelmingly-oppose-defunding-police/

I am talking about specific examples and Im not generalizing. I wouldnt wear an All lives Matter shirt because its obvious all lives matter. But if I was a US citizen I would wear a Blue Lives Matter shirt because I dont support the killing or defunding of the police, I have no issue if you want to wear a BLM shirt but how is it reasonable if the same company allows one type of shirt and bans another. And its irrelevant when Blue lives matter came into existence because we all know it came about after BLM but thats not the point. You assuming that if I want to wear a Blue Lives shirt thats means I dont care about BLM or unlawful actions by some police, thats not true as I explained. I dont tell people what SJ causes they can support as long as its legal And then are you saying by those links that highlight racist behavior that it represents what all Trump supporters believes so its okay to call them Nazi? We know that during some BLM protests there is looting and criminal behavior, does this mean its okay to call all BLM supporters criminals? Because I dont believe that in the same way I dont believe all Trump supporters are racist or Nazi

https://www.jungleoats.co.za/Products/Instant/Oatso-Easy/Original In SA we have had access to instant oats for 15-20 years, I assumed this common in the rest of the world ...its known as Oatso Easy

Elections in countries that are free and fair should be considered credible. Its not the fault of the outcomes if people dont vote I dont consider Russia, Iran or NK countries where elections are free and fair?

Gorthfuscious thats a terrible thing to suggest, how are you going to find out when your favorite celebrities had a bad hair day or what treats they fed their Miniature Poodles? Twitter is critical to our survival as a society, remember before Twitter we use to use smoke signals as way to understand people's personal and arbitrary opinions...I dont think we can go back to those days?

So you blaming the outcome, which was very close, on the fact that some people didnt bother to vote or didnt care to vote? Do you do the same thing in elections in countries when only some people decide to vote? Do we say " Im angry with the results and I blame the people who voted " or do you accept the outcomes because thats how Democracy works?

https://the18.com/en/soccer-news/world-cup-2022/i-feel-gay-gianni-infantino-fifa-president-speech Did anyone hear the cringe statement from Gianni Infantino around his views about Qatar, according to him "Today I feel Qatari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel (like) a vagrant. Today I feel (like) a migrant worker," he said. "I feel all of this because what I see ... brings me back to my personal story." While he drives off in his ferrari paid for in bribe money ( okay Im being unfair but you know what I mean )

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-back-twitter-elon-musk-says-people-have-spoken-1760891 Trump is indeed back on Twitter, Democracy has spoken. 15 million people voted and we should respect the will of the people like in all voting outcomes I have mentioned this before but he should never have been banned because it fueled the hyperbole that freedom of speech is being undermined in the US. Also ideological lines are already decided when it comes to Trump, its not like Twitter is going to change people's opinions on him? Besides according to Trump he will continue to use his own Twitter, not that I believe him. He is too much of an attention seeker to not use Twitter https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-hes-happy-twitter-132939373.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

So you dont support this proposed law, its unclear from your post?

Malc remember we dont like to use whataboutism on this thread, wasnt that what we agreed?

Did you read the link? How is wearing a Blue Lives Matter shirt fascist leanings? How is firing someone for Twitter Nazi comparisons fine but when someone else says the same thing about Trump supporters they not fired? The article mentions real cases in the US of this inconsistency from the private sector. And laws already exist in the private sector for protection of race, sex, and religion so why not political views?

https://albemarlegop.org/the-new-woke-discrimination-demands-a-new-law/ This proposed law cant be implemented soon enough in the US , it will go a long way to addressing the real examples of bias towards Conservatives and how in some states the consequence of freedom of speech is selectively practised in the private sector. To quote the article "Disney fired actress Gina Carano after she compared the treatment of conservatives on social media to Nazi persecution of Jews. The company called her post “abhorrent and unacceptable,” although co-star Pedro Pascal wasn’t sacked for likening Trump supporters to Nazis. Longtime Sacramento Kings broadcaster Grant Napear lost his job for tweeting “ALL LIVES MATTER.” A Virginia high school teacher was fired for refusing to use a student’s “preferred pronouns.” A software company dismissed an employee for posting a TikTok video complaining about Bronx bodegas. A USA Today editor was demoted for tautologically tweeting: “People who are pregnant are also women.” Also mentioned in the article that Goodyear banned people wearing Blue Lives Matter shirts but allowed people to wear BLM, how can you possibly justify that? Thats why this law makes sense for the private sector

The killing of soldiers who surrender is wrong and should be condemned by all

https://www.ft.com/content/44647086-b594-4553-9fd4-0476e877a04a G20 united in condemnation of Putins War, its a lonely world to be Russian

That Danish story has been raised extensively and the treatment of the journalists was deplorable. Im glad they apologized but is it enough? And I can tell you something else, Qatar is one of the less conservative countries in the ME. I am still concerned about LGBT fans, thats always been my biggest concern And you raise a good point, FIFA needs to seriously reflect on which countries get to host the WC

And the issue is really Budweiser is a sponsor and they backtracked on an agreement

Im glad you share my outrage, what should we do? Protest...and I mean really protest, lets even demand some statues get taken down. That should get our message across

https://sports.yahoo.com/qatar-officials-ban-beer-world-122706531.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall Qatar has decided to ban alcohol from the stadiums, to quote " Following discussions between host country authorities and FIFA, a decision has been made to focus the sale of alcoholic beverages on the FIFA Fan Festival, other fan destinations and licensed venues, removing sales points of beer from ... stadium perimeters,” Its outrageous and clearly racist, we all should be .....outraged Lets hope this doesnt negatively impact the overall WC?

You right, its not guaranteed. I can tell you one thing, it will be much easier to seize Russian assets within the EU once this is done and use that to rebuild and assist Ukraine Here is a link that summarizes this. But to quote some of the consequence of being on the EU terrorist list " The persons, groups and entities in this list are subject to both the freezing of funds and other financial assets, as well as enhanced measures related to police and judicial cooperation in criminal matters. Council regulation 2580/2001 provides for the freezing of all funds and other financial assets belonging to these persons, groups and entities. In addition, no funds, financial assets and economic resources can be made available to them, directly or indirectly " https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/fight-against-terrorism/terrorist-list/

Thats an excellent and historically informative read, I have listened to Anne many times on CNN and she is always articulate, reasonable and well informed Interesting how the rise and fall of the Moscow School of Civic Education is synonymous with Putin and the trajectory he is taking Russia

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-branded-state-sponsor-terrorism-234400329.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall Good progress on the EU declaring Russia a terrorist state\sponsor of terrorism To quote "the resolution will include a line recognizing Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism and a state that uses terror as a weapon.The press office of the European Parliament said the resolution will be put to a vote on Nov. 23. The document would pave the way for the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin and his regime to face an international tribunal for their crimes, the message added " Long overdue but better late than never

https://uk.investing.com/news/world-news/judges-say-russianmade-missile-brought-down-flight-mh17-over-ukraine-in-2014-2831219 Great news, the wheels of justice turn slowly but they turn

Monty remember the days before Putins War when we use to believe that Russia was going to save us from the insidious influence of Western Democracy and Capitalism Remember how young and naive we use to be

You right in the sense there is definitely a Trump " anti-vote" and this will manifest itself in 2024 if Trumps wins the GOP nomination. So the GOP should hope Trump doesnt win the nomination but its in the best interests of the Dems if he does