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So basically you are objecting to the purpose and reason that we have forums? Because a forum exists for discussion and debate. Cultist you won't be wasting anyone's time, I'm sure many people are keen to get your insight in this matter. And if you are correct I will acknowledge it.

I am not here to educate you with walls of text or graphs. I stated my opinion. I thought that would your response. I get it though, its difficult to make a point when you don't know the facts

Cultist I know you'll battle with this concept but some jokes are just not appropriate. Not that I'm saying I agree with him, because I believe Mandela's later work far outweighs the methods he used in his early life, but one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist. Yes you can argue that he was a terrorist in the same way that the French resistance were terrorists when they opposed the Nazi's as the Nazi's were the "rulers" of France for a time. But no-one takes that seriously as Mandela fought against an inhuman and draconian government that believed in a system that was based on racial discrimination

Well you should tell him to research the financial crisis that started in 2008, that was the closest the world came to real global crash. And it was obvious to all that the impending results was something that no-one and no country wanted or would have benefitted from. That's not true. There are always people that make a ton of money from an economic crash. Not a global crash, because every trading index and every economy would be effected.

Oh, i am not joking. He is a man who have done everything for ruination of his country. He succeeded. Maybe you can remind me what he has done that has ruined South Africa?

Cultist I know you'll battle with this concept but some jokes are just not appropriate.

Well you should tell him to research the financial crisis that started in 2008, that was the closest the world came to real global crash. And it was obvious to all that the impending results was something that no-one and no country wanted or would have benefitted from.

Yeah that's true, there is a sense of job entitlement in South Africa and lack of attitude to do hard work. Certain people want the nice car and huge house but don't seem to understand the principle of working your way up. This only applies to certain people. The circles that I move in across the racial spectrum do understand the process to achieve financial success is not given to you but normally achieved on your own through diligence, effort and perseverance

The backer website (teased in update #66 Double Whammy) is rumored to include a gameplay video and new information on the game, which is the main reason people are looking forward to it, I think. For example, looking at the teaser screenshots in that update you can see that the game is referred to as Pillars of Eternity. Personally, I want to upgrade my pledge, as well, and want to finally scratch that off the to-do list. Edit: My assumption is that anyone can access the website and even become a slacker backer. I agree with you on open forums and don't see why they'd make new ones for the new website. They could just link here, right? Gameplay video. Chris Avellone revealed that they had a gameplay video coming with the backer site in his MIGS presenation and in Update 67 there is 37.0 (man weeks?) worth of work on a "Press Demo" in Production Milestone 3 which is either the current or just previously past milestone. I'd say there would be a bit of schedule rubber banding atm as by my calculations they should be a week into Production Milestone 4. It is possible they have chosen to continue Production Milestone 3 until the end of the year (thus making it a bit longer than 6 weeks) and that would make sense because they are after all currently working on the Mega Dungeon, with Twin Elms slated for Production Milestone 4. Okay thanks, so its primarily the gameplay video people are after. Makes sense.

Here's an example of a backer site, that rolled out very shortly after the end of Kickstarter campaign. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/ Take special not about the "funds raised" value EDIT: Backer site is not just for the existing backers. EDIT2: And it's not a stupid question. Thanks for the informative response, I appreciate it Another question, would people who haven't pledged anything to PE be able to access it? The reason I ask is because I'm a backer and I really enjoy these forums. And to be honest the thought of a website where only backers can chat about things would seem a little lonely. I want anyone to be able to interact about PE and give there opinion, I want it to be as inclusive as possible. But it appears that the backer website won't have there own forums anyway so my concern is moot?

Guys stupid but honest question. What do you want so much from the backers site? What is the big deal about it that for example someone who isn't a backer is not going to get?

I refuse to support anything the Japanese do because of the atrocities they committed during WW2, I REFUSE !!! (now I'm off to play my PS4 )

I don't know about celebrity fitness experts, but if but if you change "light cardio training" in your last sentence to "vigorous exercise" its pretty much the two medical expert recommendations. IMO the 5 times a week schedule is not a realistic for many people. Personally, I would never been able to keep up such ridicules schedule in the university, the army(mandatory here) or now at work\family life. Maybe if I was celebrity I'd be able to do more than 1-3 days a week and while I probably can't press as much as Woldan, I still more fit than 90% of the kids I see today. Also definition of "fitness" may differ, i'd settle for the more traditional definition of not being fat i.e. do whatever, as long as at the end of the day you don't need to make up cute nick names for your abdominal fat layers. Good points raised, yes they did say vigorous training is required if you only train 3 times a week But don't dismiss celebrity fitness consultants. The one lady was Kim Kardashian's personal advisor and you know how quickly she got into shape after the baby, so her advice is accurate Where do you live Mor?

That's a nice quote I don't want to hijack this debate and resort to a political discussion but there are many things that the ANC has done right. But yes there are several political and social challengers we are facing in South Africa Subpar education at certain levels means people finish school and are unemployable A lack of real accountability and political discipline within the ANC means people can make serious political mistakes or be incompetent and there are no consequences Trade Unions are too influential and powerful We have people that still think Communism is great and big business is evil. So we have an ideological conflict within the country amongst people and within political parties But the good outweighs the bad in South Africa and I am confidant we can resolve this issues as time goes on

Wow I've been watching all the tributes and interviews with people paying respect to Nelson Mandela. Its been both poignant and inspirational to see and also the fact that he touched so many lives in so many different ways

That's a good effort. Nice one

Yeah I also find myself wanting certain games released quicker depending on the day of the week. I suppose this is a positive for us as end of the day 2014 won't be a disappointment as we have loads of options

Its funny that you noticed that but I felt the same thing, its a bad design. And its not like you wait in anticipation for each page as the topic isn't important enough so it becomes almost laborious Indeed. It actually prevented me from getting past #15. Its funny that you noticed that but I felt the same thing, its a bad design. And its not like you wait in anticipation for each page as the topic isn't important enough so it becomes almost laborious Indeed. It actually prevented me from getting past #15. Alan is that a joke? I'm not use to you cracking jokes

This has already happened. Why do you think the Chinese had such a vested interest in the recovery of the USA economy? End of the day the Chinese are an export driven economy, if large countries like the USA can't buy there goods they are in big trouble Look the sooner we realize that the economic collapse will inevitably lead to WWIII, the sooner we can build our own bunkers. End of the day if there isn't a massive change in the US the next economic down might be the one to kill us all. Plus with the political climate (rampant corruption) as it is, there will be no reforms that lead us out of this recession. OTOH by the time this happens China might have found another customer on one of the emerging economies, which might end up balancing the equation. Either way, interesting times ahead. That's the interesting thing, the USA isn't going anywhere despite the calls of doom and gloom from some circles. I don't want to mention any names (Republicans !!! ) The USA economy is recovering, or you can argue is in a stronger position than most places around the world. The GDP for the USA for 2013 is almost the same as the total of the next 3 countries and those are China, Japan and Germany http://exploredia.com/list-of-countries-by-gdp-2013/ The EU doesn't count as its not one country

I totally agree with what they said. But ''fun'' in exercise is rather easy to achieve, once you feel the positive changes from proper exercise you will have fun while lifting. 100 %, I didn't know that about Crossfit. It is very popular in South Africa, several of my friends do it and they look good but if its not such a good idea do you have links that explain the negative. I would like to share this with them. Funny thing is one of work colleagues just tore his shoulder muscle doing Crossfit. But I can also understand why our comments about doing gym 5 times a week can actually annoy people. Even though that's not out intention. For most people they say they don't have time to go more than 3 times a week. Everyone is busy and has RL responsibilities, some people are studying and have kids. I get that. To be now told that " 3 times a week is not enough" can be frustrating and people think we are being haughty. But in most cases I don't agree with the reasons that people can't go to gym or do some kind of exercise 5 times a week. People can make the time if they are prepared to sacrifice other things, like playing games or chatting on forums

This has already happened. Why do you think the Chinese had such a vested interest in the recovery of the USA economy? End of the day the Chinese are an export driven economy, if large countries like the USA can't buy there goods they are in big trouble

So I was watching the Piers Morgan show and they had some fitness experts on his show who help coach and train celebrities, so they really understand the human body and the principle of fitness. Anyway they basically affirmed what I have been saying, they said you need to do fitness training 5 times a week. It needs to become part of your lifestyle to achieve meaningful change. This idea that you can go to gym 3 times a week and do 30 minutes light cardio training is not enough. But they did say your training needs to be fun

Its funny that you noticed that but I felt the same thing, its a bad design. And its not like you wait in anticipation for each page as the topic isn't important enough so it becomes almost laborious

Yes it is a sad day for South Africans and most of the world. But he was great man who lived a great life. If someone had to ask out of all the values and traits that Nelson Mandela could teach a person what would be the most important, I would say " reconciliation" and "compromise" Very important and nowadays often forgotten. Nelson Mandela. An iconic,loved and respected man. A true father to all for the South African nation. Nelson Mandela, RIP

Tonight I had couscous and baked chicken breast, so very healthy and tasty.