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I assume it's the taking a "selfie" thing, which was what Walsh's link a few posts above was about. That or the notion that Michelle might have been jealous. I don't understand the "selfie" thing myself, as long as they weren't doing it in the middle of someone's eulogy speech or something. But I didn't see it, so...whatever. Yes good points and I agree. Also the memorial service was done is African style, which meant people were singing and also celebrating the life of Nelson Mandela. So I don't see the issue with people taking a "selfie" Mandela would have wanted people to celebrate his life and death in a way they felt was appropriate. Another consideration is what was Obama suppose to say to the Danish PM..." No thanks I don't want a photo with you and David Cameron".....now that would have been rude and against the principles of what Mandela stood for .

Okay thanks for explaining, I didn't know what DSPS was but I looked it up and now know

Explain to me what is wrong with Obama talking and joking to the Prime Minister of Denmark? If you want to gossip about something substantive you could mention he shook Raul Castro's hand, the president of Cuba, but that is understandable considering the circumstances and the occasion. Edit : Oh I assume you mean Michelle's look, I believe she is trying to be serious for the service

Good one

I was able to logon and access my pledge information no problem, so its definitely an intermittent problem

Wowzers that doesn't sound pleasant, what is causing that kind of insomnia?

Don't worry Nep I'm still your friend

100 % agree, but I don't necessarily want chainmail bikini's but I agree with the sentiment I am an avid fan and backer of PE but I'll increase my pledge if there is a guarantee of Romance options. Yes my money is that easily parted from me

I firmly believe that "discretion is the better part of valour" in certain games, or rather until you are powerful enough to make your enemies wail and suffer the eternal death

Hurlshot that's a bit nasty. You know very well that where Azdeus lives in Sweden there are no cars, only horse drawn carriages

No he is an excellent public speaker. I hope everyone on these forums watches it

You and I both. I'm going to "break" this game so hard and in so many different ways. That was an excellent review of the game and it does look amazing

Really? So you going on a 600 Km road-trip and you think its wrong to go faster than 120Km\h? I don't get that...

I'm just well aware that most people don't care, that's all. No waist covering, incorrect lapels, a variety of improper ties including a four-in-hand; to be fair he does seem to be getting better as time goes on. Black tie's not exactly a uniform, but it is a code. You look daft if you do it wrong, particularly if you have a team of advisors. It's not a difficult thing to do right, so it annoys me when people can't be bothered. Okay thanks for the response, I'll let Walsie comment because you guys probably know more about suit etiquette than I do

Heh, some cop bought it here that way. Was funny to hear them say he was ejected from his cruiser and that was all - lucky his unsafe driving didn't kill anyone, might have hurt his hero status. Yes but we aren't necessarily talking about speeding, we are just talking about going maybe 15-25 km over the speed limit. I don't see why you should get fined for that ? So what is speeding according to you ? Excellent question Malc In South Africa the speed limit on highways and freeways is 120 Km/h, anything over 160 Km/h should be considered speeding. But to fine a person going 140 Km/h just seems unreasonable ?

You misunderstand us, firstly we won't fall out over a debate. This is what we enjoy and cherish The point is I don't think you can tell us what's wrong with his dress code and that's why you are reluctant to tell us the reason. You don't have one And there is nothing wrong with admitting you are wrong, I do all the time. It can be quite liberating

No platitudes Malc, just conviction and sincerity. He made many good points, I strongly recommend you watch his speech. Its not long and is absolutely compelling. You should hear how the crowd loves him.

The internet informs me that he persistently wears a notched lapel jacket, and flap pockets. He also periodically wears a white bow tie for reasons I can't fathom. Since he keeps doing it, and since he has his clothes picked out for him by some sort of hellish team of professionals I think it probably is intended to give him a businesslike and less polished air. I don't see how it reflects poorly on his dress sense. What you saying makes a lot of sense, good post Walsie

I simply cannot respect a man that either cannot or will not wear a simple dinner jacket correctly. To be honest that's the first time I have heard that before. How is he wearing the dinner jacket incorrectly?

Okay I don't mean to keep going on about this but Obamas speech was touching and inspirational. He really is a excellent orator

If you're interested I believe he'll be looking for a job soon. Perhaps you could convince him to stay? funny Walsie We would love to have him live in South Africa but he is too important and needed in the USA at the moment.

Wow so I've been watching the memorial service in South Africa and its been very significant and spectacular. There are loads of distinguished and important people who are attending that include 4 USA former presidents and of course Barack Obama who flew in this morning. The UK also has several prime ministers present including David Cameron and Tony Blair. The traffic has been a nightmare with all foreign dignitaries being escorted on the highways and its raining heavily. But rain is considered a good omen in African culture so all the traffic congestion is a small price to pay for a fitting and appropriate memorial service for a great man, Nelson Mandela I am looking forward to Obama's speech, he has been very positively received by the crowds at the stadium

Yes but we aren't necessarily talking about speeding, we are just talking about going maybe 15-25 km over the speed limit. I don't see why you should get fined for that ?

OMG Agiel !!!! I never thought you were such a criminal, what's next? Are you going to join a Mexican cartel...you do realize that to break the speed limit is a criminal offense, I can't believe you are so nonchalant about such a serious infringement In South Africa everyone gets speeding fines, its normal and expected. I pay my fines online. At the moment I have about 12 fines in my name. If you pay these fines online they generally give you 50 % discount. What is a problem is that the Traffic Police have these random roadblocks and if they scan your registration plate they can pull you over and demand the money for outstanding fines. So my advice is "pay your fines and move on"

that made me laugh