BruceVC

I (The PC can beat the hell out of anyone, and buy back their reputation by giving away bottles of water; even to the victim.) This comment really made me laugh because its sounds so absurd yet its true But you can't judge Bethesda games on that type of accuracy in AI or be too critical. If you do you will find loads of those types of idiosyncratic parts of the game and general NPC behavior...and you right it is silly . But I rather focus on the positive of there games

100 %, yes I know what you saying. You aren't criticizing the entertainment factors of the new Fallout games, you do enjoy them You are saying you cannot compare them on various levels to the older Fallout games. You would love an older Fallout style game but you are realistic...its highly unlikely we will see this. But you are still excited about Fallout 4

Wow...okay the levels of positivity on this thread is overwhelming ...go Fallout 4 I'm super excited about this game, Bethesda has a great way of creating gaming worlds. They have these large sandbox environments where you can truly progress as you want in most cases yet they allow Mods to fix things that you don't like And I always use Mods..but I don't judge Bethesda for that. I don't believe the unfair criticism " Bethesda needs to use Modders to make there games either enjoyable or entertaining " No for many of the millions of fans who either use consoles or play the PC version of any Bethesda game, they just play the normal vanilla version of the game without Mods and they love the games. I have 3-4 good friends who only started gaming a few years ago and they love Bethesda games yet have never used Mods. Most people on these forums are more experienced gamers who have a much more discerning or critical expectation for games ....so Mods are a must in Bethesda game to improve the gaming experience And finally how can I not be extra excited about Fallout 4....you guys have seen Malc's post...12 companions to Romance !!! Here is the link for those who missed it http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4-companions/

Yes I thought you were joking but I hate to assume. Sometimes people make statements that I think can't be real...but they are But for the record I think you are misunderstanding the plight of African albinos. They don't get mistreated all the time, most of the time how they were previously treated gives them understandable sympathy and different preferential treatment in the job market as they are seen as a minority even within black South African culture So I am not saying albino Africans get used for body parts and cut up all the time ...that is rare but does happen. So my point about there " MORE " privilege has nothing to do with them getting cut up but just how African society sees them

Yep pretty much this. Actually it already started Geez...you guys seriously. Such drama queens Yes we now have to worry about the forces of oppression in RL as there are expectations on games being more progressive. Its like you guys think this is some sort of symbolic representation of society...guys its just gaming. As important as you may think this is it does not represent a new draconian and surreptitious system that is going to influence how our governments conduct themselves. So lets try to keep the hyperbole to a minimum plz

Um, are you really trying to have a serious discussion about how black Albinos are related to how I defined " white privilege " in this thread? Because the last few comments have just been jokes about the concept of what white privilege means....and that's fine as I have no issue with people making light of serious discussions. Sometimes that's the nature of internet debate So are you really asking if black albinos are part of white privilege ?

I would say more but not for the reasons you are joking about In Africa albinos have typically been a target historically by other Africans as they are seen as bewitched and there body parts are useful in "muti " ( African magic like Witch doctors ) This is obviously illegal and gets condemned but still happens in rural areas where people are still superstitious. So we should be extra sensitive when it comes to the treatment of albinos in the African context at least

I used to think I was white but now I'm apparently Hispanic. Is there a support group for people that have lost their white privilege? Well if its any consolation I think Hispanic people have some of the most beautiful women in the world

that giraffe pic made me laugh But to answer your question, you mustn't see this whole thing in absolutes..there are grey areas So in this case the ideal design for a game like Deliverance would be a predominantly white character world but you should see some African\black characters and can interact with them so they have some identity This would seem like the most accurate and most reasonable portrayal of the era where there were African people but they were rare....I can't see how this would really dilute the aspired "authentic " vision of the game? How many times people originating from those regions need to remind filthy and ignorant colonials that THERE WERE NO FRIGGING BLACK AFRICANS IN BOHEMIA and FURTHER NORTH... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallus_Anonymus - this guy was on courts, among nobles and also flirting with church hierarchy in regions from Hungary, through Czech kingdom and Kingdom of Poland... That guy did not report a SINGLE appearance of a black/African person in those regions, and I am pretty sure he would, as it would be something noteworthy... Stop forcing modern political agendas on people whose culture was shackled and not represented in any mass form to this day... in fact people from central and eastern Europe are very often mobbed and ridiculed in other countries, including UK, US, Germany, etc. yet, it is ok to do that to them, after all they "are white" so what that they got hit hardest by two world wars, so what that they had to endure the political trade and giving them to Stalin's zone of influence, to appease the Communists after WW2... yeah, no let the same people who betrayed their own values multiple times, school them about their own history... It's as ignorant as thinking that suddenly the modern Western style of democracy and tolerance will be glorified and followed in Middle East and North African countries.... You seem mad? Why you mad? I'm not sure you right about there being no black people in that area of Europe ...I thought there was evidence in frescoes and paintings from that time that were black people? Yes I agree, nowadays East Europeans are vilified unfairly in many countries. In the UK for example there is definitely exaggeration about how Bulgarians, Poles and Romanians are "taking jobs from hard working UK people" ...but I condemn this. So lets not justify one social wrong with another...that is unhelpful

that giraffe pic made me laugh But to answer your question, you mustn't see this whole thing in absolutes..there are grey areas So in this case the ideal design for a game like Deliverance would be a predominantly white character world but you should see some African\black characters and can interact with them so they have some identity This would seem like the most accurate and most reasonable portrayal of the era where there were African people but they were rare....I can't see how this would really dilute the aspired "authentic " vision of the game?

There are very few countries that still hunt whales as it is seen as unnecessary and cruel. Human beings have more of a connection to whales as they are mammals and are seen as much more intelligent and having more sentience than lets say Tuna which is why people condemn whaling more than fishing. Its the same for the killing of dolphins The practice of hunting whales needs to be condemned, its just not something I am active in

http://www.walkthetalk.co.za/ Tomorrow I am doing "Walk the Talk " which is a well supported event where you go on a walk to support various charities or SJ causes that you feel South Africa grapples with I'm doing the 15 km walk so I need be up at 5 am. Its actually better than providing a link to support your view...you commit to doing this walk in RL which then in turn raises visibility

Everything that isn't supporting BruceVC views is unreasonable criticism or racism or whatever. It doesn't matter how intelligently or how much based in facts an opinion is laid BruceVC will handwave it away. No if I'm wrong I admit it but people must use facts...which puts you at a serious disadvantage

No, I am not saying "Support your point of view with facts" is unreasonable criticism Of course you need facts in a debate and I can happily provide them in all debates I have When I say " unreasonable criticism" I mean where people nitpick or use spurious logic like " you can't say you care about womens right because you go to strip clubs "

Thank you for finally defining it. At least now I understand your point of reference and the basis for your comments. As for accepting your views as "proof", ah sorry but no. I'll respect your right to express your opinion but I won't accept your views as proof based solely on your say so. But you would force me to prove you wrong? Why not just avoid all that and agree with me ? Also I am still not clear on what Barti definition of polarization is? You good at deciphering things ...what is he saying ? No. I would force you to prove your point if you expect to be taken seriously. It's your call - it makes no difference to me if you want to get into a serious debate or simply present unsupported opinions as facts. And I see that Barti has already answered your question about polarizing. No point in beating that to death. No I want an honest and serious debate but not unreasonable criticism .....its a fine line but it can be done

Great games, very brutal and unforgiving. Especially the first one where you really learn the importance of saving ammunition

I don't like tourists. Don't want to transform Russia into some sort of bordello as Thailand/Baltic states/Cuba/Other touristic countries is. http://youtu.be/bdfaGDnYTDo Oby I don't know why you are complaining about people seeing Russia as a giant brothel? Putin's political decisions like his actions in Ukraine have led to sanctions and with the falling commodity prices the Russian economy is now under serious pressure The Russian people support Putin and his policies. his approval rating is very high. Now these are consequences ...Russia should actually use this to there advantage. I would legalize prostitution and open brothels all over Moscow ....it makes sense if you think about all the hot Russian women?

There is no irony. It's deliberate on his part and it's not new either. He's playing you like a fiddle. Don't bother. Barti ignore him, he is Spanish. They dont understand cultured arts like debating. Lets not stoop to his level

Here: Now that makes sense, I get that 100 % and its interesting Put it all together, Bruce... It's just English, after all.

Thank you for finally defining it. At least now I understand your point of reference and the basis for your comments. As for accepting your views as "proof", ah sorry but no. I'll respect your right to express your opinion but I won't accept your views as proof based solely on your say so. But you would force me to prove you wrong? Why not just avoid all that and agree with me ? Also I am still not clear on what Barti definition of polarization is? You good at deciphering things ...what is he saying ?

There's lots of Mexicans moving here legally, the question is stopping those aliens (not just Mexicans btw) who are coming here illegally. The politilie article is a completely ridiculous piece of propaganda. Immigrants living here legally aren't considered foreign nationals for one thing, they're US residents. Moreover legal immigrant crime rate is very low. So what exactly did politilie prove? There no question DPS caught 3000 alien murderers over 6 years. Yeah I can see your concern, of course its an alarming number if its accurate In South Africa we have about 30-45 murders a day....you actually become desensitized to it and it just becomes something normal, this doesn't make you any less patriotic But I understand you don't want to get to a point where the murder rate is a non-issue like me

I don't think I much left anything I wanted to say unstated. Okay so based on this equivocation I have to assume you have no idea how seriously these issues will impact the USA. And that's fine there is no way to accurately predict what this means for the USA But I am more confident...none of these will lead to the crashing of the economy or an utter failure of congress. So you really just having some controversial and heated debates that seem worse then they are So our definitions are completely different therefore we were having a pointless debate

Yes but you need to be more specific in terms of how harmful this is to the USA overall....is it to be expected so its normal? Are we talking about states wanting to secede..or this is just robust debate and anger but there is no suggestion the USA economy will collapse ? You cant say "this is splitting the USA into different ideologies " as the USA has always had vastly different views on topics like immigration and gay marriage so all that is different now is some things have been decided by the Supreme Court ? So what are you worried may happen ?

I want to respond but I dont want to be called condescending ? Then I would feel I haven't beaten that bad habit..granted you may be exaggerating but kgambit also said I was being rude so I am going to agree I probably was condescending I would prefer if you just accepted my views as the proof instead of a long protracted debate with various links where you eventually concede that the USA is not a polarized society ...but as kgambit said we haven't actually defined what polarization means? For me it means issues that could rip the country and society apart for years and this would destroy its economy like Zim Whats your definition?

Yes this supports my post...there is a degree of hyperbole and rhetoric when it comes to Mexican immigrants