BruceVC

What about the Jews? Why they get special attention? Why they get Israel? Why Europe is so much care about them? Jews can claim something that is thousand years old thing, they already lost Judea fro thousand of years, but you guys the west through UN give them what they already lost thousand of years. What about other peoples? What is so special about the Jews? You supply the Jews with weapons and everything, then they kill Palestinians everyday, taking Palestinian lands, why they get that special attention by the west? What about the Jews? Why they get special attention? Why they get Israel? Why Europe is so much care about them? Jews can claim something that is thousand years old thing, they already lost Judea fro thousand of years, but you guys the west through UN give them what they already lost thousand of years. What about other peoples? What is so special about the Jews? You supply the Jews with weapons and everything, then they kill Palestinians everyday, taking Palestinian lands, why they get that special attention by the west? Nothing is particular special about the Jews but Israel has been a friend to the USA and also we understand how the Israelis think So they need to be protected as they are considered allies. You must understand sometimes they are the Wests only ally

Volo I want to pay you a compliment. And its not just because you are openly supportive of the West like me but you have always been consistent in all your views People sometimes forget that about you but I respect that And yes you right about Putins wars...Zora ...Drowsy why aren't you guys criticizing Putins belligerence ?

That's because I don't think it was rude. But upon careful consideration I probably do owe you an apology. See, I come here to mentally relax, have a few laughs, occasionally poke fun, etc., not to upset people. I know you take your advocacy du jour seriously and you've obviously become very upset so, apologies BruceVC. I will endeavor to curtail any responses to you. :brofist: Apology accepted You see I expect Drowsy and Zora to call me a troll because we are ideology apart in this and all debates I was ultimately defending the West in the Syria conflict. I am not doing it because I want people in the West who are active on this forum to support me, I do it because this would be a major annoyance and fundamental issue to the West and USA if in fact Erogan was behind the rise of ISIS So of course when an American forum member calls me a troll and stupid I would get annoyed...but I also overreacted Anyway I need to not be so inconsistent between discussions because then I create a certain impression which people think is actually my normal state

Dude....seriously? Poland suffered from hyperinflation after the USSR collapsed and yet Poland transformed itself. Poland is considered a success story. Who would be prejudiced against Poland ....sorry but I don't understand all the EU historical bias Poorer people from richer EU countries that see Poles as cheaper competitors on same jobs, which is not unfounded as it is not uncommon to see polish metal workers, builders, welders etc. to be hired build things in richer EU countries, because they are cheaper than local craftsmen with same skills. Yes I am aware of the view from some citizens from old Europe where citizens from East European countries are not as clever as them...its insulting and offensive' and I'm surprised anyone would believe it That is why I said to alum I wasn't insulting the whole country

Dude....seriously? Poland suffered from hyperinflation after the USSR collapsed and yet Poland transformed itself. Poland is considered a success story. Who would be prejudiced against Poland ....sorry but I don't understand all the EU historical bias

I prefer getting views from people who actually live in Poland before I comment than to automatically believe what an American newspaper says ? So I can tell you that right now. I am in Poland for the last 3 months, and the only thing which is a bit colorized is this one: ''''''''''''''' Kaczynski, like Hungary’s Viktor Orban, is the product of an ugly pre-World War II populism, frozen and preserved through the communist era, that mixes xenophobia, anti-Semitism, right-wing Catholicism and autocratic impulses. '''''''''''''''' because pre WW2 Poland was fairly mixed in terms of east EU cultures and had a very high populace of jews, I think it was the largest in the world (maybe 2nd behind USA) and they were mostly respected. It's the WW2 and comunism era that turn that around (a lot has to do with Polish higher class being entirely desintegrated in both Nazi and Soviet camps, and majority of middle class being killed and dispersed) As sad as it sounds, the rest of the article is accurate. Oh...okay. I didn't know that...why have you been so secretive about where you live, Poland is a success story?

Of course that would be your response ....its not like you could admit you were rude

I prefer getting views from people who actually live in Poland before I comment than to automatically believe what an American newspaper says ?

Of course. Its the typical BVC non-answer but I lost interest in discussing it with him so I just let it drop. Oh my....look at you. You play the standard " BCV never answers " , you are condescending and then rude When I first read this I was annoyed by your rudeness and I was going to respond accordingly...but I went to the shop and my irritation has gone Its my fault because clearly you think I'm stupid and in the past I have gone along with your sarcastic comments and acted like I wasn't aware. So lets set the record straight, I'm not stupid so please don't assume this again and insult me because I will respond next time and there is no need for a debate like this to get personal I explained to you the facts about why its unlikely Turkey would be funding ISIS. You ignored this and insisted I should consider the photo evidence. The photo evidence if it was real do you not think your country who is actively involved in this conflict would have considered.....do you not think that the USA who has been involved in the ME and has effective and reliable information from sources like Israel and Saudi Arabia would be aware if Turkey was the reason ISIS was able to sustain itself ? So once again you make the assumption that everyone is stupid ....except for the Russians But I didn't feel like pointing the obvious out to you and trying to " win" the argument so I thought we could wait a few days when this story will be confirmed....which is why I said lets wait and see But even this wasn't good enough for you and you chose to insult me ....oh well Once this story is debunked I suppose an apology from you will be too much to ask?

We like Russia Drowsy....but they need to act in a more reasonable way ..like not annexing Crimea Are you suggesting that Hitler attacked to Soviet Union because he foresee that in future when Soviet Union has broken down Russia will try to annex Crimea from Ukraine even though it was not at point of time even part of Ukraine, as it was transfered from Russia (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic) to Ukraine (Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic) after the war? Are you making a joke ...you never make jokes

We like Russia Drowsy....but they need to act in a more reasonable way ..like not annexing Crimea

So, iyo, those pictures just show and unfortunate traffic jam / parking lot for tanker trucks? Those photos dont prove anything ...but lets see how it unfolds

No dude of course this makes sense ...its worth the money

Okay maybe you can post some links to support this?

Qistina I want to ask you something important I am really enjoying our chats but there are some people who are still not sure you a real person and I have my doubts still as you seem to repeat questions almost knowing for some strange reason people will react Do you use Skype ? I would like to quickly Skype you with the video option to confirm you who say you are...we can use the PM function to exchange Skype addresses I'm sorry to ask you this but the reality is there are people who troll me and I waste time debating points If you dont use Skype let me know what chat client you use but it must allow video Sorry Qistina but can you respond to this? This thread is sure going places. I know you may think this is weird but I want to be sure

It is a valid question for someone who is not aware of the history of this conflict, I can understand why someone may think " why wouldn't Turkey buy this illegal oil " ...the reality is its not like the countries in the ME seem to care about each other But Turkey has been trying to join the EU for years, its not a Arab country and it has no interest in trying to occupy Iraq or Syria And it has 2 million Syrian refugees living within its borders and the EU has just paid it 3 Billion Euros to stop sending more refugees to Europe These Syrian refugees are a huge resource strain on any country ...why would Turkey want to sustain this nightmare conflict

Qistina I want to ask you something important I am really enjoying our chats but there are some people who are still not sure you a real person and I have my doubts still as you seem to repeat questions almost knowing for some strange reason people will react Do you use Skype ? I would like to quickly Skype you with the video option to confirm you who say you are...we can use the PM function to exchange Skype addresses I'm sorry to ask you this but the reality is there are people who troll me and I waste time debating points If you dont use Skype let me know what chat client you use but it must allow video Sorry Qistina but can you respond to this?

"Pay back" is phrase used when you're insinuating retribution with violence, which is very seldom used here on the continent since we have history of guys impaling 40 000 people just to prove a point. Your colorful language is greatly frown upon. I suggest trying to reach out by appealing to our common humanity instead. Well, someone have to pay....usually the ones who pay are the descendants who run away from paying. The debt must be paid. What have been taken must be returned..... No chance of that, what country actually enforces that type of rule And you must remember I live in country where there are some black South Africans who really expect some sort of financial payment from white people ...so its a real question I don't mean literally... No I do....people want cash payments for Apartheid

"Pay back" is phrase used when you're insinuating retribution with violence, which is very seldom used here on the continent since we have history of guys impaling 40 000 people just to prove a point. Your colorful language is greatly frown upon. I suggest trying to reach out by appealing to our common humanity instead. Well, someone have to pay....usually the ones who pay are the descendants who run away from paying. The debt must be paid. What have been taken must be returned..... No chance of that, what country actually enforces that type of rule And you must remember I live in country where there are some black South Africans who really expect some sort of financial payment from white people ...so its a real question

Qistina I want to ask you something important I am really enjoying our chats but there are some people who are still not sure you a real person and I have my doubts still as you seem to repeat questions almost knowing for some strange reason people will react Do you use Skype ? I would like to quickly Skype you with the video option to confirm you who say you are...we can use the PM function to exchange Skype addresses I'm sorry to ask you this but the reality is there are people who troll me and I waste time debating points If you dont use Skype let me know what chat client you use but it must allow video

I'm guessing you didn't click through the pictures? Sorry I'm also listerning to music so my screen is stretched but I did see them now. It still doesn't convince me I must apologize as I am not use to you engaging in these debates and I realize you are being serious, sorry if I seemed dismissive Let me ask you an important question, why do you think Erdogan would buy this oil and allow ISIS to grow and survive

Gorth I would like to point something interesting out to you but before I make my point where have you lived in your life? Denmark, New Zealand, Australia, Germany and England? (that's 'living', not just spending an amount of time there) Okay I wont go the normal "BruceVC knows what you really thinking " approach and try this a different way Firstly I would bet you have lived in more countries than anyone else on these forums Then how did you feel about the various countries you lived in? I imagine you have fond memories of all of them...except Germany ..I still am surprised you went to Germany, do you speak German?

I admit its fascinating Anyone who believes that is irrational

How would you explain all the trucks on the borders, that the Turkish government is oblivious to if we are to believe you? I eagerly look forward to your random reply blaming "whitey". Sorry my bad. Turkey has a huge and easy to cross border if you know who to bribe , its a massive country. Obviously anyone in Turkey who would be prepared to buy the oil has means to process it and getting access to trucks is common in the ME ...so trust me you may think a convoy of trucks is unusual but its not in the ME

In Malaysia? mistake