BruceVC

I mentioned in the past that I talk a lot in RL, I enjoy small talk and interacting with basically anyone .....I enjoy it and most of the time people appreciate it My boss always asks me to sit next to new people at work functions so they don't feel ignored. So he has found a way to use my excitable nature ( I'm not hyperactive despite what some people assume )

You right but in Africa to call any black person a monkey is more offensive because there is a view that due to all the failed states and disastrous economies black people are actually stupid like monkeys. Its weird but black people believe it more than they should Its hard to explain but its just something we as white liberals never would ever do....its just something that would hurt black people and offend them ...like this incident now.

Didn't stop Zimbabwe. Yes you are right and Zimbabwe is actually a sore spot for me because members of my family came from there and were involved in the war. But what happened in Zim in the long term has actually ensured white South Africans will never be kicked out of South Africa So what I am about to explain may sound like I'm being racist but you guys know I'm not and I feel I can just discuss the facts without being diplomatic. Mugabe made a very bad calculation in the 1999's, he decided to break an old unspoken African rule " always be nice to white people in your country". Despite criticisms about Colonialism white people in almost all African countries are treated well and generally control resources Anyway Mugabe decided to not only kick them off there farms , kill or intermediate most white Farmers in Zim he also blamed the UK for reneging on paying millions of pounds to Zim. He publicly attacked the West and made sure any white people in Zim knew he was the boss and they were outsiders....he really played the " race card" and made sure he humiliated all white Zimbabweans . The result was the majority of white people left Zim and due to the illegal occupation of there farms the West declared some financial sanctions. But there was NOTHING stopping any country from investing in Zim or Mugabe getting loans from places like China Mugabe did all this from about 2000 and in the beginning he was considered a real hero to many Africans who understandably resent the fact that white people own large parts of land that they feel was stolen from them during Colonialism. So I even remember back in 2002 how many black South Africans would phone in defending Mugabe and saying things like " he is a real son of Africa " . Mugabe also made the really egregious decision of deciding to implement " nationalization " where any foreign business had to sell 51% of there business to a black Zimbabwean....so the taxes and job creation weren't enough. He somehow thought local people had an automatic right to any business in Zim But then the economic reality kicked in. No Western country was prepared to invest in Zim and as usual the African Union didn't really care .....and within 2 years the Zim economy was sunk. The Chinese helped in there usual way, loans and some trade but no real investment. And then Mugabe just made things worse, they started printing larger notes and more currency and somehow ignored the concepts of currency trading and how currency is valued Its almost like they believed those irritating conspiracy theorists who say things like " the entire global economy is just a facade...you don't need to follow the rules of global economics " So with no foreign investment and also with all the other pressures the Zim economy became almost bankrupt. Some people still to this day think Mugabe was punished by the West for wanting to address the land and for kicking out the Whites but the real reason for Zim economic collapse was completely his own creation He ignored property rights when they invaded the farms and when his " nationalization " policy was implemented he destroyed most foreign investment. But most Africans will say " its because he kicked the Whites out " So that lesson resonates with our current government who have refused to illegally take any land. This is a problem in South Africa at the moment as maybe 55 % of the land is still owned and farmed by white farmers and many black people are frustrated that the government wont address this issue But the reality is many white people despite the historical injustices of Apartheid still are the primary drivers and owners of the economy ...and yes I am one of those but thats just how things are. So in summary white people under the current SA government are fine despite the rhetoric No Volo its not the same in South Africa

Oh I never knew you got the job, well done You don't strike me as someone who enjoys interacting with strangers ...or am I wrong?

Yeah you are technically correct, this dynamic in South Africa is black South Africans being " racist " and generalizing But because of Apartheid you must realize they not being racist in the sense of how we understand it....if I can try to give you an analogy. After the genocide when the Israeli's hunted down Nazis would you say what they did was illegal? Because they broke certain laws when they kidnapped Nazi's in foreign countries ?

Hi Vals "waves " Where have you been?

Funny enough the judging of white people in this case is actually due to a profound insecurity that many black South Africans feel ....I know it may seem like I'm making excuses for racism but I'm not as its complicated We get told that regularly by some people ..." white people must go back to Europe " ...but this is the interesting part of living in South Africa, I know this sounds arrogant but the reality is if every white person like me left SA the economy would collapse Many white people are an inextricable part of the economy ....we are needed particularly in sectors like the banking and financial sector. So I just ignore those types of personal attacks on white people

How does that pertain to the subject at hand? Aren't we discussing reincarnation? Didn't you post a link about reincarnation and I'm interested in your opinion I thought we were discussing the buddhist beliefs (or lack thereof) in reincarnation, but then you went and posted this: So now I'm confused. Ah yes my bad, I always forget that people have no way of knowing when I'm joking about something I have no real proof of reincarnation from any religion but I still like to read about it, so I don't really dismiss the Buddhist view of it ...so really I have no informed opinion about it but I would still like to get your view, and any one elses, about it

Imagine if you were reincarnated as a Syrian refugee

How does that pertain to the subject at hand? Aren't we discussing reincarnation? Didn't you post a link about reincarnation and I'm interested in your opinion

Nah I don't follow boring Buddha definitions of reincarnation....I'm talking about proper reincarnation definitions where I get reborn as a Chinese emperor

I have a feeling you're not overly familiar with Buddhism Really? So you saying that there are not any branches of Buddhism that teaches reincarnation then? Or that people can ascend to Buddhahood (another unprovable belief)? On reincarnation. (Also, isn't the Dalai Lama considered to have ascended to Buddhahood?) alum do you believe in reincarnation? I can't imagine it features too much in the medical fraternity

How do you know most rapes are committed by people from Africa and the ME? Yes in my country we have an astronomical high level of rape but its not because black people are predisposed to rape but yes compared to what you Europeans are use to I'm sure some of the Syrians do seem like they a propensity for it...but this may be due to there history and exposure to extreme violence ? Sorry but how does this negates what he wrote? He didnt presume that they act like that because of their race/color but because of that history and extreme violence? Oh I didn't realize he was saying that, my bad

How do you know most rapes are committed by people from Africa and the ME? Yes in my country we have an astronomical high level of rape but its not because black people are predisposed to rape but yes compared to what you Europeans are use to I'm sure some of the Syrians do seem like they a propensity for it...but this may be due to there history and exposure to extreme violence ? Take a look at these photos to understand what that racist women was referring to ...now don't get freaked out, this is only over Christmas https://melancholymons.wordpress.com/2013/01/18/kwa-zulu-natals-durban-beachfront-1930-2013/

So smarty pants what happens if someone who use to be Jewish but renounced there religion marries a black person who is Jewish but lies in Mongolia ?

You funny The worst thing about this whole " monkey " insult is how seriously so many black South Africans have taken what this ignorant racist said You would think they would ignore it but they don't, so for the last 2 days I have heard dozens of black South Africans phone in a various radio talk shows and say things like "I'm not a monkey ....I am tired of white people thinking we are monkeys " Yet that is NOT what people like me have ever thought

Buy some nice Old Amsterdam Cheese.,...that should make you cheery ?

What ...don't tell us now you also don't believe in the Greek gods? You are such an " atheist cliche "

Artistic license ...its better than the reality

They are corrupted, they corrupt the teaching, corrupt the religion, that's why Jesus against them is it not? Maybe there are things we can learn from Jews, only good things of course...but what are the good things about them anyway? Well you could learn many things from the Jewish community....I would say the first thing should be how the Jews care about other Jews. They really care about the sanctity of a single Jewish life, most of the Islamic world doesn't seem to care too much about other Muslims if its an inconvenience ....like the Syrian refugees and how the Sunni countries in the Middle East don't want to take in any refugees Is that a good thing? Isn't that RACISM? Jew is a RACE, Islam is a religion, Muslims are from various of RACES...surely you don't want to play with this? Syrian are Syrian, Arabs are Arabs, Turk are Turks, of course they are majority Muslims but they are all of different race. I am Malaysian, i am not Arab, not Syrian, i can say Arab problem is not my problem, Syrian problem is not my problem...but Malaysian problem is my problem So if you want to put all Muslims into one shoe, and compare with Jews, then you are making unfair comparison and judgment I don't mind discussing this, Syria/Saudi/UAE/Jordan and many other Middle East countries are part of the Arab League so there is suppose to be a connection despite what you saying And the reality is these countries are all Muslim countries and despite this they don't care about the Syrians?

Yes in the old days of Colonialism the Europeans did think the various tribes and groups of people they came across in there expansion across the world were uncivilized, barbaric and uneducated ....but compared to the Europeans at the time in the 1600's they were. The Europeans in the 1600's must have had the most technological advancements in the world? But that's the old way the West sees the world ...nowadays we are all one big global village that just needs to understand the West offers the best form of governments

They are corrupted, they corrupt the teaching, corrupt the religion, that's why Jesus against them is it not? Maybe there are things we can learn from Jews, only good things of course...but what are the good things about them anyway? Well you could learn many things from the Jewish community....I would say the first thing should be how the Jews care about other Jews. They really care about the sanctity of a single Jewish life, most of the Islamic world doesn't seem to care too much about other Muslims if its an inconvenience ....like the Syrian refugees and how the Sunni countries in the Middle East don't want to take in any refugees

Oh don't think I'm looking for sympathy, on a personal level and financially I'm doing fine But you must admit what she said is reprehensible

http://memeburn.com/2016/01/estate-agent-calls-black-people-monkeys-in-racist-facebook-post/ Guys please read what this white South African women said recently about black South Africans over the Xmas period....I am embarrassed and irritated someone in SA could be so ignorant and insensitive We are dealing with a huge "anti-white " sentiment at the moment where the whites in SA are all being called racist because of her utterances

No the Jews aren't corrupted, they are just very good at survival and they generally very good business men ...especially in finance You could learn a lot from them?