BruceVC

You have misunderstood my point about increased crime in the EU due to refugees I am simply stating the facts, some crime will increase to a certain degree in the EU due to some of the actions of the refugees. This is already the reality, I'm not sure why you have an issue with the actual crime statistics? But this doesn't mean the EU will now collapse or that the foundation of the EU will become undermined due to " Islamization" I still cant believe you are not really good troll, your posts always trigger me soo much! You really cant believe that **** you are posting xD What exactly don't you agree with? That there is a level of increased crime in the EU since the refugees arrived or that this doesn't mean the EU will collapse...because both are true?

You have misunderstood my point about increased crime in the EU due to refugees I am simply stating the facts, some crime will increase to a certain degree in the EU due to some of the actions of the refugees. This is already the reality, I'm not sure why you have an issue with the actual crime statistics? But this doesn't mean the EU will now collapse or that the foundation of the EU will become undermined due to " Islamization"

Personally I think its a little embarrassing that there no are NO active female members on this forum We dont have even 2-3 ? Its something we should be trying to understand and or change....people don't seem that concerned ? Do we know there are none? I was under the impression there were some women posting on the POE forum that I've never seen here in WOT. (That's without getting into the whole self-identifying issue with anonymous message boards ) You probably right...maybe our female members actually post in other sections Remember Squeaky cat? She was cool No. Bruce doesn't even understand women, which is not the problem, since we all are pretty clueless. The problem is he thinks he does. You must have missed his material on strippers and overweight girls. No I dont understand or know everything about women and you I doubt you will find a single post I have made suggesting that But I am not clueless either Yea... you kinda are. All 2nd and 3rd wave 'feminists', SJWs and 'White Knights' are. Well as I have said on numerous occasions I don't really support " Internet SJ "much anymore and terms like " SJWs and 'White Knights " exist primarily on the Internet...I don't see them as that significant or meaningful when it comes to addressing real issues. These words are more divisive My SJ efforts are more based in RL issues and issues directly relevant to South Africa and the African continent

Why are you repeating the exact same post you made in the Apple post ?

I'm not sure if you being serious...I would hope you are but somehow I think you being sarcastic? But the salient question about this topic is " does the FBI now share this backdoor with Apple " ? Because there is a valid point that says " no as Apple refused to help the FBI and why should the FBI tell Apple something that will diminish its information gathering capability "

Good question, I would spend time with family and friends but since my family and friends are all over the world I would have to use something like Skype that is collaborative and allows me to chat with people in different locations The good news is I have very few regrets or things I need to apologize for as I have already done this So I would just use the 24 hours to discuss the good times

http://news.sky.com/story/1668534/fbi-cracks-san-bernardino-attackers-iphone This is quite an interesting story that I have been following. As most of us know the FBI have been trying to access encrypted data on one of the San Bernardino attackers iPhones. They requested that Apple assist them and Apple refused, the FBI has now found a 3rd party source to help them decrypt the iPhone Now the FBI doesn't need to ask Apple and the question is now " should the FBI reveal to Apple how they hacked the iPhone " For me I think Apple should have helped the FBI immediately when they made the initial request as state security events like this is more important to me than privacy So I support the FBI and there endeavors to access to the information on any device if required as part of an ongoing criminal investigation

No. Bruce doesn't even understand women, which is not the problem, since we all are pretty clueless. The problem is he thinks he does. You must have missed his material on strippers and overweight girls. No I dont understand or know everything about women and you I doubt you will find a single post I have made suggesting that But I am not clueless either

No I identify myself as a male but I align with many things that promote gender equality..many people have similar views to me Vals

Its important in life to always try to get a different perspective on issues and for me a female perspective often adds balance Its not always right but its very relevant to having robust debate...and why do we see ourselves as " know-it-all pseudointellectual geeks" ...do you see yourself as that, I dont see myself as that ?

Personally I think its a little embarrassing that there no are NO active female members on this forum We dont have even 2-3 ? Its something we should be trying to understand and or change....people don't seem that concerned ?

No Vals, we don't accept sexist videos. Thats the issue here I promise you its quite possible to make a point and post a video on these forums without the post being edited by the Mods, this forum is not monitored zealously. The Mods are reasonable

Follow your dreams, step outside your comfort zone, even if doesn't pan out you will learn something about yourself. As someone older who regrets time wasted, take all the opportunities you can...BTW what the hell do you need a crossbow for? To kill roaming carnivorous bears that are common in his area? Germany has a huge problem with bears

How long have you and Hurlshot known each other for Gfted1?

Makes sense, rather be sure than to not go because us guys tend to avoid doctors generally

I do enjoy the US elections but its not fun but more serious for me due to the relevance of the USA

I find it hard to believe you "didn't mean to start all this" when your unsolicited reply started with: Yeah I know, was stupid on my part. I guess what I mean is I expected a reaction, but not THIS MUCH of a reaction. So now I feel dumb and wreckless. Yes but this argument with Barti and me has nothing to do with you ? Also guys this is not a big deal? I'm not angry at all but I'm sure Barti and I can reach common ground? But we need a third person to ensure the truce holds

Comment on...? I agree...but I also disagree. It's a personal problem - I have the ability to not look at posts from users whose posts I don't want to see, and I fail to do it. That's my fault, simple as that. But yes, for those of us, including myself, who are weaker and unable to resist, a more strict ignore list would be great. But...things are O.K. as is. Oh, so you are a troll. Good to know, and honestly, it's nice to see you confess. Well, self-admittance is the first step on the path to curing your disease, my friend. But also, you're completely missing the point: the way you think of me, how you talk to me...is utterly of no consequence to me. I...and others...have laid out many...so many...times what we would like to see improve from you. You can take comfort in the fact that I'm just as stubborn as you are in this regard - probably even more so, in fact. I'm leaving the ball in your court, though. No I said sometimes, you seem to get worked up over nothing? But lets see if Amentep can maybe give his input around this truce Amentep I want to stop fighting with Barti ....I looked on this whole thing as something that was just a joke but it seems to have escalated. Barti does things that annoy me and then I annoy him and then he annoys me ....so I suggested we have a truce The only way I think it will work is if we both list the things that annoy us so its clear...please dont ask me to remember what you guys have said in the past as there has been so much said I'm not sure whats real And then its official, we dont do those things to each other? Someone like Gfted, Hurlshot, TN or Amentep can basically recognize the terms and the first person who breaks the truce the entire forum will know has no integrity? It may sound complicated but its not, I only have 2 things you do that annoy me and this way there is no doubt that the other person shouldn't say he was unaware ....so for example I cant say later " I never knew I couldn't joke "?

Okay Barti I tell you what ...please forget the previous post I would like to extend the hand of friendship....lets start over. I'll also admit I do sometimes provoke you because you always overreact and its funny but I wont do that anymore? Someone like Hurlshot can agree its official and lets try to be nice to each other ...what do you think? We have nothing to lose?

Or maybe try be a little less rude the whole time? You be nice to me and I promise I wont be rude back

Okay thanks Meshugger, I'll be sure to ponder how similar I am to Qistina over Easter A genuine, friendly advice met with a passive-aggressive snarl? That's the behaviour of a vindicative *censored*, don't be that low. A small hint, check her behaviour (not the content) and compare to yours in this thread. Obviously tone is hard to convey in a post, but it seems a bit disingenuous to call your statement genuine, friendly advice. It also doesn't contain any advice whatsoever. As for Bruce, I think many of you simply take him too seriously too often. Like Volo, his posts are best read with a judicious helping of salt. edit: I should probably add that I'm terrible at taking my own voice, and I've let Volo get under my skin too many times to count. Yes you are 100 % right Hurlshot Guys,,,,Hurlshot gets it and he hardly ever chats to me....you guys take me far toio seriously. I joke sometimes, yes I tease a little but all my debates on things like politics are real and I never joke Im really not hard to understand

It gets a rise out of people - it's forcing a response. From you, from me, from anyone who sees his pretty freaking constant use of phony logic, from his complete and total lack of even a shred of intellectual honesty and good faith in the vast majority of the topics in this section - and never mind the condescension that's just dripping from way too many of his posts. And no matter how many times this kind of crap is blatantly and forcefully pointed out to him, he keeps doing the same stuff over and over. Trolling? Maybe not - maybe it's just a bad combination of narcissism or narcissist-like behavior and being...well, we don't need to go there. Point is, regardless of what it is, the result is effectively trolling way, way too much of the time...and it's about time it came to a screeching halt. There's good reason the moderating team here considers him a joke, and there's good reason a whole lot of other users, myself included, do, too. He asked me a few days ago my thoughts of the "vastly new and improved" BruceVC of today were, compared to a few months ago... Like, holy crap, man: you're still doing the same exact sort of crap that I've taken issue with repeatedly, continuously over the past year, year and a half or so...in pretty much every topic you're in. It's really gotten old. I've come to the conclusion that even if he wanted to change, he likely can't, because generally speaking, you need to be able to recognize what's wrong with your behavior before you can actively try to change it...and it's clear that he can't even get that far - no matter what we say, we can't make him see the problem. So...to the ignore list it is, and then the attempt to not click too many of the "view this post anyway" buttons, for the sake of my own sanity, and for the sake of my free time. Barti I cant get angry with you.....you make me laugh too much Barti you really misunderstand me but I did explain this earlier....not sure why we even debating this? I debate from a RL etiquette so I dont really understand these Internet stereotypes like Troll or thinking I'm being condescending ....imagine I was standing in front of you...thats why I'm always polite and for the record I'm not being egregiously and obscenely polite....I have serious sales responsibilities at work so you learn to be naturally polite...its not hard to be polite? And what do you mean "And no matter how many times this kind of crap is blatantly and forcefully pointed out to him, he keeps doing the same stuff over and over "...Barti are you smoking some goooooooooood weed? No one has ever done that ..people insult me or make inexplicable comments that arent relevant like " you need to think about Qistina " ( like I have ever given her more than 2 seconds ) Sorry Barti but your story is mostly epic fail...maybe you can actually find some examples of " all this advice that was given to me " Post the links...come on ...I dare you Oh I did receive a warning from the Mods and we had a constructive discussion around this and my whole forum etiquette started improving.The Mods are fair here so if they ask something I always try to adhere to it...so another epic fail Barti because I was the new BrucevC...and anyway why is asking how I am doing considered so vexing/? But I would like Amentep to comment but lets not try to influence him ..let him make his own mind up

Okay thanks Meshugger, I'll be sure to ponder how similar I am to Qistina over Easter A genuine, friendly advice met with a passive-aggressive snarl? That's the behaviour of a vindicative *censored*, don't be that low. A small hint, check her behaviour (not the content) and compare to yours in this thread. Well I hardy interacted with Qistina....she seemed to like me which I found a little odd because she hardly knew me...but remember when she compared me to her Scottish guy friend. I started staying away after that and you guys seemed obsessed to endlessly debate with her ....and you stopped up despite the fact she seemed to always have another anti-western view Did you really enjoy debating with her ,,,I found it tiresome

And... Here's a very good example of why I sometimes think you might just be a troll. You're either incredibly daft to ask that question, or you're trolling. If it's the former, think, the answer is obvious if you do. If it's the latter, F off. But once again its not obvious, I have been on these forums for over 3 years and my interests and motives have been more or less consistant. I like West, free markets and support SJ I am active in my own threads and through the years I have seen people come and go who use to say I was a troll So I ask you again....why would a troll with this behavior pattern create threads?

... The whole point of doing it is so it will be pointed out. That's trolling 101, and Bruce does it all the time. In all seriousness, Bruce purports to be fine with prostitution and not fine with an open marriage. Even if they were honestly held opinions rather than the forum equivalent of Gawker clickbait (no surprise Bruce would defend them, they're peas in a pod) there's literally no point even arguing with someone that disconnected with reality; the level of cognitive dissonance that would be required to honestly hold both opinions renders it utterly pointless. I always thought of trolling as intentionally riling people up, not posting logical inconsistencies so someone will point them out. Learn something new everyday, I guess.. The intent of the troll usually is indeed to rile people up, however the vast majority of the time the average troll is indeed logically inconsistent. It's one of the reasons most are very easily spotted, and the main reason most are also fairly easily shut up. That aside, Bruce drives a lot of conversation on this forum (20% of the current front page threads were started by him, and that's been the norm since before I started coming here), and definitely has some things in common with a troll, even if unintentional. I've questioned his sincerity myself on a number of occasions, and frankly I'm still not 100% sure he's not a troll of some sorts. But why would a troll start threads? And yes I was honest when you asked me, I am not a troll....Oby may be