BruceVC

I would guess that Apple works like MS and patch things only when they become public knowledge, because they don't really care about security of their customers they just want look that they care. Thats also not true, I use to work at Microsoft and I can promise you Microsoft does care about security and creating patches to fix security holes in there products If there software gets hacked it undermines the credibility of there products and thats something no software company wants

How do they patch what they don't know? Or are you saying that Apple has been aware of this vulnerability the whole time and just never bothered patching it out? Company that has over 50 billion dollar cash in their bank account can buy that security company (and with it they also gain information about said vulnerability) if they can find said vulnerability in any other way No, Apple is not sure how the FBI found this information out They will do there investigations but it will be difficult if the FBI doesn't tell them how especially since the FBI has the actual device Also Elerond this is not about money...not at all There are people who do support the FBI and believe what Apple did was wrong, these people would also work in the software security industry and would happily help the FBI crack the Apple device because they believe this is an issue of state security...and they wouldn't be interested in selling there technology to Apple or helping Apple undermine the FBI They aren't motivated by money but follow a greater calling...the security of the USA

Firstly I have never said "the refugees are beneficial to Europe "....I have said consistently things like " it was a mistake for Germany and Merkel to invite the refugees " But I dont have an issue with Germany or Merkel because they meant well and what is done can't be changed, so we can't go back in time to change the initial offer to invite the refugees. So instead of just complaining and having unrealistic suggestions like " the EU should just dissolve because of this " I believe in practical solutions. We cant send the current refugees back so real efforts have to be made to stop any additional refugees from arriving, like this new Turkish deal, and then the current refugees that are in EU have to absorbed into EU society..and yes I understand this is difficult but you want to avoid the refugees ending up living in ghetto communities, being unemployed and living off social security I have always also maintained that a small percentage of refugees will commit crime...so obviously the crime rate in an EU country will increase...this is not the same thing as me saying " " you must be happy with increased crime "...I am saying its inevitable but its not all the refugees who are committing crime So no I'm not Trolliing, my argument is logical and based on the reality of the situation You are constantly trolling or - excuse me - you are idiot.# 1) it never was intend of any nation to create ghettos - these people created them themselfs 2) Turkish deal - EU will return refugees to Turkey where they get turkey asylum and turkey citinzenship in exchange for no-visa access for these people to EU. Wow, what a great deal we are going to pay for! 3) Stalin meant well as well - but few millions of people died in process - bugger I know 'Mean well' doesn't mean i dont have problem with it even if I agree with 'higher good' that may come from it. If I rephrase your comment: But I dont have an issue with Germany USSR or Merkel Stalin because they meant well and what is done can't be changed, so we can't go back in time to change the initial offer to invite the refugees invade east block. So instead of just complaining and having unrealistic suggestions like " the EU USSR should just dissolve because of this " I believe in practical solutions. Are you really that blind that you dont see it? ** Sorry for derailing this thread - back to gender equality please Why you calling me an idiot ? I dont debate with people who are so blatantly rude

Yes, I agree Its about the capability of the FBI to gather information...they should not share these types of strategies considering the degree of cyber warfare that is ongoing against the USA and the West generally

Do you think the FBI should share with Apple how they did it? I don't think they should, I was watching an interview with an ex-FBI operative and he said the FBI won't reveal these details especially since he felt Apple had "sandbagged " the FBI and had refused to cooperate So FBI found vulnerability in security measures of device that is used by tens of million people but they don't want those to be fixed because they think Apple was not nice enough with them. Sounds like they really want to protect public from the criminals It may sound unreasonable but the FBI normally doesn't reveal to the general public how they gather information. So even though it may be seem selfish and narrow minded the fact they wont tell Apple how they did it has more to do with there general security policy than this one example

Firstly I have never said "the refugees are beneficial to Europe "....I have said consistently things like " it was a mistake for Germany and Merkel to invite the refugees " But I dont have an issue with Germany or Merkel because they meant well and what is done can't be changed, so we can't go back in time to change the initial offer to invite the refugees. So instead of just complaining and having unrealistic suggestions like " the EU should just dissolve because of this " I believe in practical solutions. We cant send the current refugees back so real efforts have to be made to stop any additional refugees from arriving, like this new Turkish deal, and then the current refugees that are in EU have to absorbed into EU society..and yes I understand this is difficult but you want to avoid the refugees ending up living in ghetto communities, being unemployed and living off social security I have always also maintained that a small percentage of refugees will commit crime...so obviously the crime rate in an EU country will increase...this is not the same thing as me saying " " you must be happy with increased crime "...I am saying its inevitable but its not all the refugees who are committing crime So no I'm not Trolliing, my argument is logical and based on the reality of the situation

Do you think the FBI should share with Apple how they did it? I don't think they should, I was watching an interview with an ex-FBI operative and he said the FBI won't reveal these details especially since he felt Apple had "sandbagged " the FBI and had refused to cooperate

You have misunderstood my point about increased crime in the EU due to refugees I am simply stating the facts, some crime will increase to a certain degree in the EU due to some of the actions of the refugees. This is already the reality, I'm not sure why you have an issue with the actual crime statistics? But this doesn't mean the EU will now collapse or that the foundation of the EU will become undermined due to " Islamization" I still cant believe you are not really good troll, your posts always trigger me soo much! You really cant believe that **** you are posting xD What exactly don't you agree with? That there is a level of increased crime in the EU since the refugees arrived or that this doesn't mean the EU will collapse...because both are true?

You have misunderstood my point about increased crime in the EU due to refugees I am simply stating the facts, some crime will increase to a certain degree in the EU due to some of the actions of the refugees. This is already the reality, I'm not sure why you have an issue with the actual crime statistics? But this doesn't mean the EU will now collapse or that the foundation of the EU will become undermined due to " Islamization"

Personally I think its a little embarrassing that there no are NO active female members on this forum We dont have even 2-3 ? Its something we should be trying to understand and or change....people don't seem that concerned ? Do we know there are none? I was under the impression there were some women posting on the POE forum that I've never seen here in WOT. (That's without getting into the whole self-identifying issue with anonymous message boards ) You probably right...maybe our female members actually post in other sections Remember Squeaky cat? She was cool No. Bruce doesn't even understand women, which is not the problem, since we all are pretty clueless. The problem is he thinks he does. You must have missed his material on strippers and overweight girls. No I dont understand or know everything about women and you I doubt you will find a single post I have made suggesting that But I am not clueless either Yea... you kinda are. All 2nd and 3rd wave 'feminists', SJWs and 'White Knights' are. Well as I have said on numerous occasions I don't really support " Internet SJ "much anymore and terms like " SJWs and 'White Knights " exist primarily on the Internet...I don't see them as that significant or meaningful when it comes to addressing real issues. These words are more divisive My SJ efforts are more based in RL issues and issues directly relevant to South Africa and the African continent

Why are you repeating the exact same post you made in the Apple post ?

I'm not sure if you being serious...I would hope you are but somehow I think you being sarcastic? But the salient question about this topic is " does the FBI now share this backdoor with Apple " ? Because there is a valid point that says " no as Apple refused to help the FBI and why should the FBI tell Apple something that will diminish its information gathering capability "

Good question, I would spend time with family and friends but since my family and friends are all over the world I would have to use something like Skype that is collaborative and allows me to chat with people in different locations The good news is I have very few regrets or things I need to apologize for as I have already done this So I would just use the 24 hours to discuss the good times

http://news.sky.com/story/1668534/fbi-cracks-san-bernardino-attackers-iphone This is quite an interesting story that I have been following. As most of us know the FBI have been trying to access encrypted data on one of the San Bernardino attackers iPhones. They requested that Apple assist them and Apple refused, the FBI has now found a 3rd party source to help them decrypt the iPhone Now the FBI doesn't need to ask Apple and the question is now " should the FBI reveal to Apple how they hacked the iPhone " For me I think Apple should have helped the FBI immediately when they made the initial request as state security events like this is more important to me than privacy So I support the FBI and there endeavors to access to the information on any device if required as part of an ongoing criminal investigation

No. Bruce doesn't even understand women, which is not the problem, since we all are pretty clueless. The problem is he thinks he does. You must have missed his material on strippers and overweight girls. No I dont understand or know everything about women and you I doubt you will find a single post I have made suggesting that But I am not clueless either

No I identify myself as a male but I align with many things that promote gender equality..many people have similar views to me Vals

Its important in life to always try to get a different perspective on issues and for me a female perspective often adds balance Its not always right but its very relevant to having robust debate...and why do we see ourselves as " know-it-all pseudointellectual geeks" ...do you see yourself as that, I dont see myself as that ?

Personally I think its a little embarrassing that there no are NO active female members on this forum We dont have even 2-3 ? Its something we should be trying to understand and or change....people don't seem that concerned ?

No Vals, we don't accept sexist videos. Thats the issue here I promise you its quite possible to make a point and post a video on these forums without the post being edited by the Mods, this forum is not monitored zealously. The Mods are reasonable

Follow your dreams, step outside your comfort zone, even if doesn't pan out you will learn something about yourself. As someone older who regrets time wasted, take all the opportunities you can...BTW what the hell do you need a crossbow for? To kill roaming carnivorous bears that are common in his area? Germany has a huge problem with bears

How long have you and Hurlshot known each other for Gfted1?

Makes sense, rather be sure than to not go because us guys tend to avoid doctors generally

I do enjoy the US elections but its not fun but more serious for me due to the relevance of the USA

I find it hard to believe you "didn't mean to start all this" when your unsolicited reply started with: Yeah I know, was stupid on my part. I guess what I mean is I expected a reaction, but not THIS MUCH of a reaction. So now I feel dumb and wreckless. Yes but this argument with Barti and me has nothing to do with you ? Also guys this is not a big deal? I'm not angry at all but I'm sure Barti and I can reach common ground? But we need a third person to ensure the truce holds

Comment on...? I agree...but I also disagree. It's a personal problem - I have the ability to not look at posts from users whose posts I don't want to see, and I fail to do it. That's my fault, simple as that. But yes, for those of us, including myself, who are weaker and unable to resist, a more strict ignore list would be great. But...things are O.K. as is. Oh, so you are a troll. Good to know, and honestly, it's nice to see you confess. Well, self-admittance is the first step on the path to curing your disease, my friend. But also, you're completely missing the point: the way you think of me, how you talk to me...is utterly of no consequence to me. I...and others...have laid out many...so many...times what we would like to see improve from you. You can take comfort in the fact that I'm just as stubborn as you are in this regard - probably even more so, in fact. I'm leaving the ball in your court, though. No I said sometimes, you seem to get worked up over nothing? But lets see if Amentep can maybe give his input around this truce Amentep I want to stop fighting with Barti ....I looked on this whole thing as something that was just a joke but it seems to have escalated. Barti does things that annoy me and then I annoy him and then he annoys me ....so I suggested we have a truce The only way I think it will work is if we both list the things that annoy us so its clear...please dont ask me to remember what you guys have said in the past as there has been so much said I'm not sure whats real And then its official, we dont do those things to each other? Someone like Gfted, Hurlshot, TN or Amentep can basically recognize the terms and the first person who breaks the truce the entire forum will know has no integrity? It may sound complicated but its not, I only have 2 things you do that annoy me and this way there is no doubt that the other person shouldn't say he was unaware ....so for example I cant say later " I never knew I couldn't joke "?