BruceVC

I have a hard time imagining any context in which calling someone a "fat disgusting pig" is a value-neutral statement of fact instead of the nasty ad hominem it is. And attacking a woman's looks instead of their viewpoints is fundamentally sexist. Arguably ad hominem? Yes. Fundamentally sexist? No. If you can't even understand why that'd be unequivocally and without a shade of doubt an ad hominem, I'm not gonna waste time on advanced concepts like "what's sexism". alu I cannot believe ANYONE would try to dispute this is not sexist Vals must be trolling us? But I know sexism also bothers you....doesnt this particular video just irritate you. Whats worse about it is what message is it sending the rest of the world who would thinlk " sexism doesn't exist in the USA " But the story gets even better, after this debate Trump refused to attend the next Fox News debate….he basically said “Megyn Kelly was unfair to him and she is a third rate journalist “ ….and this is the guy who wants to “ make the USA great again “ , he cant even handle the scrutiny of a women or having to actually admit he is wrong to a women ? Seriously…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVNVY343FXY

No, this video highlights how stupid some people are in that Megyn asks a question that only morons are going to think is relevant, and is somewhat amusing (the Rosie line was a good one). It's exactly the kind of question that a great many people who aren't morons are beyond sick of, hence the cheering of Trump's response. In addition to the various insults he's thrown various women's (and men's) ways over the years, Donald Trump has also laid lavish praise upon various women (and men), do we hear Donald being accused of thinking that all woman are 'wonderful' (which he has called many), or him being accused of having 'no respect for the feelings of men'? No, because that would be ridiculous. What you propose is no less ridiculous, and actually quite sexist. Insulting one woman/man or one person of a specific ethnicity (especially a deserving one), does not equate to insulting them all. Thinking such is moronic. Some women are 'fat disgusting pigs', so are some men, but not all of either are. You can insert just about any positive or negative adjective(s) you want for 'fat disgusting pigs' and the previous sentence still holds true. Sorry Vals but I showed this video clip and emailed the story to several of my committed feminist friends and they were very annoyed It is sexism and they agree Trumps overall actions were disgraceful....and trust me they women so they would know better than either of us

That sounds interesting, didn't you have parents? But I suppose who needs rules when you can read comics all day

GD how come you have never said that about all my great posts ........waaaaaaaaaaah

He insults people in different ways you right but I am more concerned with his treatment of women as they represent over 50% of the voting base. Priorities Volo.....never forget to priorities But there are other minorities he has insulted, you need to step up and help out my son. Why dont you go confirm with the Muslims he has insulted? You have a natural affinity with Muslims so they will listen to you ?

Right from the beginning the comic companies should have fought this...its not hard They make the basic point that the opinions in the magazines have made there customer base uncomfortable and revenue is down What reasonable judge is going to dismiss this....think about it when there are real crimes all around...the judge will order them to remove it and apologize What happened with the Batgirl one was the creative team behind the book didn't like the cover, which was a homage to The Killing Joke, as DC was doing a series of Joker themed variant covers for Joker month, and The Killing Joke is the most famous interaction between Joker and Batgirl. There was an outcry of it showing Batgirl as a victim and that they would never show Batman in a compromising position on the cover of his own book, followed by like 20 examples of just that and the people providing the examples being blocked by the people who said there weren't any. The creative team then felt it didn't fit the tone and themes of the book. As it was a variant cover, of course it didn't, variants rarely reflect the content of the book. So the artist requested DC pull the cover, and they did. I'm pretty sure most people disagree with the decision, but it essentially wasn't DC that caved to the whiny crybabies, but the artists themselves, so the crybabies claimed the high ground. Marvel had the Spider-Woman artist contracted for several other covers but cancelled them after the outcry, but didn't pull the one that was released. You know what ...I suddenly thought of a solution for Spider Women She can just go naked if the issue is her costume?

Nah....thats Japanese child porn....remember we discussed this and I said it would be offensive in my country

Right from the beginning the comic companies should have fought this...its not hard They make the basic point that the opinions in the magazines have made there customer base uncomfortable and revenue is down What reasonable judge is going to dismiss this....think about it when there are real crimes all around...the judge will order them to remove it and apologize

But seriously why should a comic cover ever cause a controversy ? In what world did this happen This type of thing can be fought legally but not by using a video. Then the article goes in all the magazines and then the ladies who tend to believe the likes of Elle get upset and involved, then the husbands,then the friends then people like me ...and you guys are made to feel like perverts And what is it about ... a comic I have always thought Spider Women had a nice ass...she does

Can you send me the link to that one? I am not familiar with that story? He makes good points, the whole thing just becomes annoying This group that feels the need to demonize this type of picture obviously feels they have sort of moral precedent. I wonder if he only made this video or did he complain through the magazine like Elle? Because I think he only did this...and the reality is there a better way to complain to a company ? End of the day how many women would be really offended ...and the rest of the world deals with RL abuse of women.

We start on 20 days leave and we get about 15 days sick leave ? But I seldom take sick leave and I take time off when I work overtime so I normally get about 20-30 days leave To give you context. As a new hire with Hertz I started with 5 days of paid vacation and 5 sick days paid (with five floating holidays). It's based on how long you've been with the company (I bump to 10 vacation on my second year). But at McDonalds etc it's just "oh you want a day off? Hope you can keep your rent going!" Dude thats really bad IMO?

My one Brother collected 2000 AD.....I loved that !!! Slaine, Halo Jones and of course Judge Dredd...Strontium Dog, Rogue Trooper

We start on 20 days leave and we get about 15 days sick leave ? But I seldom take sick leave and I take time off when I work overtime so I normally get about 20-30 days leave

That article is a good example of a hit piece by mainstream media. It's an issue that largely does not matter in the context of a Presidential race yet polarizes many people, and takes what Trump says out of context in order to make him look bad to the polarized. Trump is hardly trying to lose. The establishment has been throwing everything it has at him though. The abortion question, especially in contrived form, is a perennial favorite. It's not going to get much traction, and then will fall off. The majority of people stupid enough to fall for this manufactured type of anti-candidate X crap have already fallen for the other manufactured anti-Trump crap. It's a hit Trump performed on himself. It's perfectly reasonable to ask a question about the platform he's running on. And when you can't answer a simple question with a simple standard answer that almost any Republican politician would easily give, you have to ask yourself what's really going on. Moreover, the abortion debate isn't settled as you say. If a Republican wins (seems almost impossible right now, but things happen, like in my sig) he could easily appoint two conservative Supreme Court justices, and then the issue goes back to the states. WOD you making the right decision and I can appreciate its probably something you not use to...missing an election But why should you get dragged into this Trump joke...you actually deserve better ...all GOP supporters do That video about Megyn Kelly will come back to haunt him. Seriously guys, I know some of you say I'm exaggerating but have you ever seen a Republican candidate with such utter contempt for women? He actually find it funny in the beginning We talking about our mothers, wives, daughters, girlfriends etc.

Sorry I cant contribute towards this discussion but I have no idea what you guys are talking about

Shady dont you want some comics., I'm sure I have some old Xman....in fact I may have one of the most brilliant comics ever where the Xman first meet the unforgiving Marauders...I still remember what one of the Marauders says " Radical Scalp....let them role " ..she was speaking to Scalphunter

Just gonna point out that this isn't "a thing" in America. After 10 years in the work force I finally got my first job that has this thing called "Paid vacation" and "Paid sick days." Oh wait I never told you about the unusual part about that email\ That was sent out by our CEO....seriously. It wasn't really funny but he means well In South Africa all large corporations contribute to social development which is like building houses, schools , internships etc. Our CEO makes a point at every Xmas party of saying a speech but he always mentions how we live in a country where people live in abject poverty and we need to basically try to help people out. He means what he says, its nice to see someone at his level caring about less fortunate people I appreciate his efforts as I also believe in social responsibility

Okay but I dont mean to now be dismissive of forum rules but you telling me people really find my posts so " offensive " they have to block me out ....and this is people who dont even talk to me ...come on that must be record? That cant be common?

This video highlights one of the big issues with Trump, its also one of the most contemporaneous comments he has ever made IMO He has no respect for the feelings of women and clearly feels pandering to his supporters in the room who actually cheer and laugh because a women is called " a fat disgusting pig " And this is the guy who is " going to make the USA great " ......

Guys does no one want old Marvel and DC comics for free? I need to know what you collect then I can check what I have

Ah ha. I have the self control to not click, as well as not bother to read the only person I have on ignore in all the forums I frequent (I have seriously considered adding Bruce). It would just be nice to not have to see any reference to them at all (especially the 'This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore posts by insane trolly person, view it anyway'), as all other ignore functions I'm familiar with are capable of. It's not important enough for me to spend time to write a script though. Thanks. I am sorry but I just cant ignore these types of comments .....the suggestion that someone has to use a script to remove me from there posting environment sounds like one of the most......unnecessary steps I have ever heard a person take ? Its like I'm this intrusive presence that cannot be ignored ....guys if you having a discussion and you feel my comments would erode the level of debate just be polite and ask me not to post ? I will always respond to a reasonable request?

That article is a good example of a hit piece by mainstream media. It's an issue that largely does not matter yet polarizes many people, and takes what Trump says out of context in order to make him look bad to the polarized. Trump is hardly trying to lose. The establishment has been throwing everything it has at him though. The abortion question is a perennial favorite. It's not going to get much traction. The majority of people stupid enough to fall for this manufactured type of anti-candidate X crap have already fallen for the other manufactured anti-Trump crap. Ah yes the enemy is the " mainstream media " .......so the established global news channels are just exaggerating and embellishing the image of Trump right? Of course, WOD now you know the truth Now Vals we both know how ignorant and stupid I am because I support the " mainstream media " but where do you get your information from ....how does one get truly informed about how Trump is actually a very reasonable and rationale person who is clearly going to fix everything wrong with the USA Actually Bruce, I think you are insane. It's a byproduct of ignorance and excessive cognitive dissonance. The longer and/or more one ignores reality, the more detached one becomes from it. You are quite detached, as you imply often yet made perfectly clear in the Hogan/Gawker thread. Where do I get my news? All sorts of places, including the 'mainstream media'. I don't just swallow everything whole though. I think about it. Always ask myself 'why was this written' and often ask myself 'who wrote this'. I check primary sources as often as I can, when they are available (and when they aren't, very seriously doubt authenticity). And again, I think about it, read between the lines if need be, compare it with the rest of the big world puzzle, etc. In this particular case (and a great many others) one need just find the interview(s) Trump gave and read or listen to it unedited. Trump was asked some hypotheticals about abortion. He answered them in a reasonable manner. He then had what he said taken out of context (which is the norm whenever most people in media (especially the mainstream sort)) in order to push a false narrative and/or sensationalize what should be trivial. Tip: Begin the practice of always checking primary sources and it won't take you long to see just how very common it is for folks in the media to manipulate a person's words out of context to get a manufactured narrative across. While I would agree that the abortion issue isn't entirely irrelevant as it can give a window into what a candidate values, which sheds light on a candidate's character, for the most part that has become an almost irrelevant thing post 'Monicagate', and in light of the current situations within the U.S. as fairly adequately explained in this link (Trump supporter in that link aside, that's the sentiment of a very large number of people who support other candidates too). Importantly though, the President of the United States has little more say than you or I do over what the abortion laws in the U.S. are. It is a matter entirely outside the President's purview. Also, it's largely a decided issue. There is no chance of Roe v. Wade being overturned anytime in the next few decades. However... In regards to your argument.... Well, your argument is almost laughable, if it wasn't so sad in it's meritlessness. First, women are not a minority. They are in fact, a majority (there were more than 5 million more women than men in the U.S. last census go around (2010)). Second, the arguments for and against abortion can be very compelling if one is honest with oneself and puts even a little value on human life and the well being of it. It's a tough issue, with a real lot of grey. Only evil folks who don't give a poop about human life or it's well being, or morons think it's a black and white (to be clear Mr SJW, that is not a racial 'black' and 'white' ) issue, whatever side of the issue they come down on. However, '...more women in the USA believe is there choice to make and the idea of a man telling them what to do with there bodies is unacceptable' is absolutely not one of the compelling arguments. A very small percentage of women in the U.S. genuinely think they are oppressed by men, and almost if not all of them are insane, because the reality is that they are not (out of the 157+ million women in the U.S. it's possible there are a couple of exceptions, but they are super rare exceptions). Neverminding the fact that there's quite a lot of women out there who are very much in the pro-life camp. Well you are right, I do live with cognitive dissonance. But its not seen as a negative by people like me because we believe its important to be able to at least recognize a view that could be contradictory to the original stance. This is something that we see as a strength of rationale .....insane...mmm..... But I assume you mean Longknifes view of me? I asked for peoples view on my posting etiquette..I made a whole post just so I could get constructive feedback. Longknife gave me his opinion in his normal way and I have no issue with it. He was 90 % wrong but he did help me realize something fundamental about certain misunderstandings I have with some people He helped me even though that wasn't his intention....why must I focus on the things he said that have no relevance ? And you right...there are more women voting in the USA than men. I know this because this is exactly what the " mainstream media" believes .....which raises a conundrum as you just explained how the " mainstream media " isnt informed. What do we do ? Well lets just say because you also believe it then its true ? But finally we have a real issue, we both acknowledge the importance of the women vote in the USA. Isn't it logical that efforts should be made to appeal to this demographic ? I know how about we see who women in the USA normally vote for The " mainstream media " says more women vote for the Democrats http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/08/politics/women-election/ Do we believe it ? So Trump has made several offensive and dismissive comments about women, he has offended more women than Romney ever done....how is offending the largest voting demographic in the USA good policy? But this is really what the "mainstream media " tells me so its more than likely wrong...right Vals

That article is a good example of a hit piece by mainstream media. It's an issue that largely does not matter yet polarizes many people, and takes what Trump says out of context in order to make him look bad to the polarized. Trump is hardly trying to lose. The establishment has been throwing everything it has at him though. The abortion question is a perennial favorite. It's not going to get much traction. The majority of people stupid enough to fall for this manufactured type of anti-candidate X crap have already fallen for the other manufactured anti-Trump crap. Ah yes the enemy is the " mainstream media " .......so the established global news channels are just exaggerating and embellishing the image of Trump right? Of course, WOD now you know the truth Now Vals we both know how ignorant and stupid I am because I support the " mainstream media " but where do you get your information from ....how does one get truly informed about how Trump is actually a very reasonable and rationale person who is clearly going to fix everything wrong with the USA The abortion question is very relevant because it supports a view that more and more women in the USA believe is there choice to make and the idea of a man telling them what to do with there bodies is unacceptable .....but this is just what the " mainstream media " discusses and its only relevant to women in the USA who are a very important minority group so you can probably just ignore this because its a .....perennial favorite and " not real right "

What food does your wife eat? Pretty much whatever I cook or order She doesn't eat better or really much different from me but since I like McDonald's, even though I don't eat it, I have bad eating habits. Stuff like that. It's not logical but since I like things she deems bad then I'm unhealthy no matter if I actually eat it or not What is traditional food in the Baltic states ....I 'm sure I have asked you this but I forgot the answer I wont google this question and pretend to know , I'll guess knowing the location. Meatloaf ? Stews ? Fish must be included in the diet?

Of course, we can never generalize but what you do seem to see in states like California is constant innovation in many sectors So on other food shows they go to these awesome restaurants in California that specialize in Molecular Gastronomy or places like Napa Valley Those places aren't that common in Mississippi and the overall budget in Cali must also make a huge difference to the society experimenting?