BruceVC

Jesus Christ this.I generally disagree with bull**** that tries to censor political discussions in gaming but holy **** do I miss being able to go on a gaming website and actually discuss a game's mechanics. Baro you are erudite and have keen insights in many matters Do you realize that many of us, most of us, were dragged into this whole " GG....anti-GG " and effectively manipulated into fighting a war that others really wanted to fight for personal reasons It frustrates me because of course there are valid cases of things like sexism in gaming and unethical behavior in gaming journalism but end of the day look at result of this debacle You still have two sides and high levels of intransigence which is never helpful when dialogue is required to better understand another perspective

Ah yes a fellow cheese lover and someone who clearly understands how the Universe operates But Gorgonzola is also a Blue Cheese but I know what you mean. What Blue Cheese do you like? Stilton, Roquefort....I hope you say " Why Danish Blue Cheese of course " ...

Also to be honest they know that to mishandle or or try to rape women is wrong, I have travelled in many ME countries and I don't remember any significant issues with rape or ubiquitous examples of abuse of women similar to this This is necessary because they just don't have much respect for Western women and have a certain level of contempt for them This needs to change very quickly

sure they are, cant even believe that we have to explain something that basic to Bruce No they part of your definition of morality, I don't kill people because I'm " good " ...I don't kill people because I think its inherently wrong and against basic human rights even you yourself can see that you are not doing it because its evil. Morality and good or evil may be subjective, but it doesn't change that fact No once again I disagree with your premise,I don't think of my actions as " good " or " evil " Thats fine if you see things like that but its not a fact for me because both these words can be seen in a different way which fundamentally changes there definition. Do you think ISIS thinks they evil? no they dont, thats why i typed its subjective, do i have to get you definition of subjective? Okay let me try this from a different way, what is a fact in your post ?You said " it doesn't change the fact " fact is that for you killing people is evil, or are you saying that you are not doing it because its to much hassle so you just wait till they die? xD No I'm not saying killing people is evil, I don't use that word because I don't believe in it I believe it is wrong and illegal to take someones life. For me murder is not just against the law but it goes against my own personal principles so I would never do it

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sure they are, cant even believe that we have to explain something that basic to Bruce No they part of your definition of morality, I don't kill people because I'm " good " ...I don't kill people because I think its inherently wrong and against basic human rights even you yourself can see that you are not doing it because its evil. Morality and good or evil may be subjective, but it doesn't change that fact No once again I disagree with your premise,I don't think of my actions as " good " or " evil " Thats fine if you see things like that but its not a fact for me because both these words can be seen in a different way which fundamentally changes there definition. Do you think ISIS thinks they evil? no they dont, thats why i typed its subjective, do i have to get you definition of subjective? Okay let me try this from a different way, what is a fact in your post ?You said " it doesn't change the fact "

And have you ever seen any Muslim EVER support the idea of his beard being forcibly shaved? They will see this as an insult and an attack on there faith...if fact I cant recall where else in the world this has happened ? Have you ever seen anybody support the idea of their beard being forcibly shaved? But 98% of people of Tajikistan are Muslims. So its secular government that have decided this thing consist probably mostly Muslims. They were also part of Soviet Union, which also means they have traditions and habits, etc. from that era. I'm missing your point? Just because the government is Muslim it doesn't mean they dont have an issue with Muslim extremism and they think this will help..and no I haven't seen this before as I mentioned Point was that when somebody is forced to something it usually means that they didn't support idea in first place. And second point was that this has less to do with Islam and more to do with Tajikistan culture itself. It is difficult to say do forcing people living by certain standards add or lessen extremism, but forcing people to look certain way or forbid certain looks isn't uncommon thing even in western countries even though forced beard saving don't necessary belong among those things, except in prisons sometimes. Really? So is the mass shaving of perceived Muslim extremist beards part of there culture? I see this as a pointless decision by a dictator trying to control the spread of extremism That isn't what I said. But that not accepting certain looks and collective punishments probably come from their own culture. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/tajikistan-shaves-13000-men-beards-radicalism-160120133352747.html "Police in Tajikistan have shaved nearly 13,000 people's beards and closed more than 160 shops selling traditional Muslim clothing last year as part of the country's fight against what it calls "foreign" influences. Bahrom Sharifzoda, the head of the south-west Khathlon region's police, said at a press conference on Wednesday that the law enforcement services convinced more than 1,700 women and girls to stop wearing headscarves in the Muslim-majority Central Asian country. The move is seen as part of efforts to battle what authorities deem "radicalism". Tajikistan's secular leadership has long sought to prevent an overspill of what it sees as unwelcome traditions from neighbouring Afghanistan. Last week, the country's parliament voted to ban Arabic-sounding "foreign" names as well as marriages between first cousins. The legislation is expected to be approved by President Emomali Rahmon, who has taken steps to promote secularism and discourage beliefs and practices that he sees as foreign or a threat to the stability of Tajikistan, Radio Liberty said." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-35372754 "Shaving beards is part of a government campaign targeting trends that are deemed "alien and inconsistent with Tajik culture"." "Women have been told to wear traditional Tajik colours - not black" "According to official data, 99% of the Tajik population are Muslim. However, atheism was officially encouraged during 70 years of Soviet rule." "President Emomali Rakhmon has also warned Tajiks: "Don't worship alien values, don't follow alien culture. Wear clothes of traditional colours and cut, not black."" "The campaign against Islamic practices also affects women. There is an official ban on wearing hijabs in schools and universities - but in practice it is enforced in all state institutions. Police say that over the past year, they have closed about 160 shops where hijabs were being sold, and convinced 1,773 women to stop wearing hijabs." "It is not clear whether these policies will have an impact on preventing radicalism. Djovid Akramov says he will not forget the humiliation he felt while being forcefully shaved at the police station. "The worst is the impunity of the policemen, who were enjoying the opportunity to bully people," he says. It is this kind of conduct that can prompt people to become radicalised, he says." http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/22/tajikistan-parliament-approves-constitutional-changes-presidential-term-emomali-rahmon "Tajikistan’s secular government has rais/ed alarm over hundreds of its citizens going to join Islamic State in Iraq and Syria." http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/28/tajikistan-police-chief-defects-to-isis Tajikistan police chief defects to Isis I don't have any knowledge about Tajikistan to tell me if this sort actions increase or decrease extremism there, but it is clear that their leadership has real concerns about increasing extremism in their country and their reaction towards extremism is quite similar to how Soviet Union handled such cases (meaning use of extreme measures and promoting nationalism). Okay but aren't we arguing the same point ? I am saying the Tajikistan government is trying to control extremism ....and one of the things they did was shave the beards of perceived extremists

sure they are, cant even believe that we have to explain something that basic to Bruce No they part of your definition of morality, I don't kill people because I'm " good " ...I don't kill people because I think its inherently wrong and against basic human rights even you yourself can see that you are not doing it because its evil. Morality and good or evil may be subjective, but it doesn't change that fact No once again I disagree with your premise,I don't think of my actions as " good " or " evil " Thats fine if you see things like that but its not a fact for me because both these words can be seen in a different way which fundamentally changes there definition. Do you think ISIS thinks they evil?

sure they are, cant even believe that we have to explain something that basic to Bruce No they part of your definition of morality, I don't kill people because I'm " good " ...I don't kill people because I think its inherently wrong and against basic human rights

They are also man made constructs, which seemed to be your issue with "evil". "mentally instability and religious indoctrination" is a strange way of spelling "material conditions". Regardless, the same applies to "morality" and "justice" in this case, which are man made constructs that vary from person to person. If you don't believe in "evil", how can you believe in "morality" and "justice"? You aren't. I'll try to explain this one more time because sometimes you and I do not get each other and thats fine Think about a law that says "you cannot kill someone " ....is this the same as saying " all people who kill are evil " A law exists on paper and even though it can be tested in Court it is part of society but the term Evil is subjective, you can't prosecute someone for being Evil...they have to do something wrong and break the law but Evil by itself doesn't mean anything

And have you ever seen any Muslim EVER support the idea of his beard being forcibly shaved? They will see this as an insult and an attack on there faith...if fact I cant recall where else in the world this has happened ? Have you ever seen anybody support the idea of their beard being forcibly shaved? But 98% of people of Tajikistan are Muslims. So its secular government that have decided this thing consist probably mostly Muslims. They were also part of Soviet Union, which also means they have traditions and habits, etc. from that era. I'm missing your point? Just because the government is Muslim it doesn't mean they dont have an issue with Muslim extremism and they think this will help..and no I haven't seen this before as I mentioned Point was that when somebody is forced to something it usually means that they didn't support idea in first place. And second point was that this has less to do with Islam and more to do with Tajikistan culture itself. It is difficult to say do forcing people living by certain standards add or lessen extremism, but forcing people to look certain way or forbid certain looks isn't uncommon thing even in western countries even though forced beard saving don't necessary belong among those things, except in prisons sometimes. Really? So is the mass shaving of perceived Muslim extremist beards part of there culture? I see this as a pointless decision by a dictator trying to control the spread of extremism

Okay let me clarify, laws and governance are quantifiable and identifiable parts of any society. They are understood Evil is just a term people use to describe appalling behavior ...so we hear about a child molester " he is evil" ...,.we see what ISIS does " they are Evil " ...but mentally instability and religious indoctrination are actually the real reasons these things happen Can you see the difference ? I may not be explaining it properly

Evil is a man made construct., I dont believe is such things If evil is only a man made construct then it implies that there is no objective morality or axioms to adhere to, which in turn implies that relativistic morality is the only one appliable, which in turn leads to subjective discourse in terms of justice and truth; since those are based on the moral pretences already stated, which leads to atrocious acts being permitted as long as they are confined with their own sense of morality, which finally leads to power for the sake of power being its own moral justification. Yup, sounds like Clinton alright. No....your post sounds like that strange Finnish rationale you are famous for You can have morality, laws, governance, justice and all these other things without Evil? What does Evil even mean to you

And have you ever seen any Muslim EVER support the idea of his beard being forcibly shaved? They will see this as an insult and an attack on there faith...if fact I cant recall where else in the world this has happened ? Have you ever seen anybody support the idea of their beard being forcibly shaved? But 98% of people of Tajikistan are Muslims. So its secular government that have decided this thing consist probably mostly Muslims. They were also part of Soviet Union, which also means they have traditions and habits, etc. from that era. I'm missing your point? Just because the government is Muslim it doesn't mean they dont have an issue with Muslim extremism and they think this will help..and no I haven't seen this before as I mentioned

Evil is a man made construct., I dont believe is such things

I agree with this sentiment....I'm sure this will be seen as a sign of humiliation Albania under the communists (it was also a majority muslim country) Interesting, well played. I didn't know that

And have you ever seen any Muslim EVER support the idea of his beard being forcibly shaved? They will see this as an insult and an attack on there faith...if fact I cant recall where else in the world this has happened ?

Its not so much Clinton I like but she wants to continue the fundamental policies of Obama which are about ensuring a more equitable society and a stronger more significant middle class. Also she isn't planning anything radical that may impact the USA economy, like Sanders and his dislike of big business and the financial sector And that doesn't mean she plans to target people like you ....your commitment to the overall economy and people like you are the foundation of what the USA is built on and despite right wing rhetoric this will never change She is like american Merkel xD No I respect Merkel more

What a bizarre thing to do, this is only going to increase animosity from the Muslim community in Tajikistan Tajikistan is a muslim country you doofus Yes I know but if you read the article it says the government is secular ....I suppose I meant to say " this will increase Muslim extremism " But the whole country looks very dysfunctional on various levels Maybe they are trying to fix that dysfunction? Mind you shaving beards is just stupid but trying to get womens back to social life and push their husbands to disband shackles of oppression doesnt sound that bad. Still the way is wrong, nothing forced ever worked Well if they really wanted to fix that dysfunction then maybe the president could resign as he has been in power since 1994....and presidents for life don't work. So I dont have much time for any country that isn't prepared to fix fundamentals

What a bizarre thing to do, this is only going to increase animosity from the Muslim community in Tajikistan Tajikistan is a muslim country you doofus Yes I know but if you read the article it says the government is secular ....I suppose I meant to say " this will increase Muslim extremism " But the whole country looks very dysfunctional on various levels

It's interesting because I was talking with a few friends about this earlier and most of them, who are also of the same mindset as I am, like that he doesn't go negative and more or less keeps it above board but there were a few others who thought he was weak or not serious because he doesn't go on the attack. Granted those friends don't support him at all and generally vote for the other major party. Those who thought it was a positive didn't think that it was enough to seriously sway their votes but those who thought it was a negative thought of it as a serious flaw. I can't say if it follows a larger pattern or not but among the ~8 of us that's how it shook out I have to admit I am very concerned with Sanders popularity...he does threaten a Clinton presidency

What a bizarre thing to do, this is only going to increase animosity from the Muslim community in Tajikistan

Do you watch any cooking channels like the Food Network and do you have a favorite celebrity chef ? My favorite celebrity chefs are Anthony Boudaine, I recommend his book Kitchen Confidential, and Nigel Slater who is a UK chef ...he is totally decadent with how he cooks, I love it

today is day 2 of our most recent pot roast crafting. for liquified gelatin to be fully reabsorbed into the meat, the roast should be allowed to sit in cooking juices overnight... in fridge 'course and only after straining juices and skimming CONSIDERABLE fat. so, today we need reheat meat, create gravy, and roast vegetables... and perhaps steam something green just for show. hardest part o' pot roast is actual doing overnight reabsorption. smells so darn good that we wanna eat after initial cooking is finished. need resist urge to eat on day 1 is a special kinda torment. HA! Good Fun! Gromnir you have a lot a knowledge and insight around cooking and gastronomy it seems I love cooking, I find it therapeutic but I really enjoy cooking a nice dinner for friends and family Who taught you about cooking or are you self-taught?

Thanks for clarifying KP....sometimes I don't get some of the political commentary or views I read