BruceVC

The problem is when Muslims self-segregate which it seems they do there from what I'm reading, assimilation isn't going to happen. They have to want it and it seems they don't. It's becoming a problem here in the US in the refugee communities. The Islamic refugees are forming isolated and insular groups that choose not to participate in the society they live in. You can't force someone to assimilate. Unless of course you are Borg. So France is one of the worst examples of successful integration, the reasons are complex and its not all the fault of the French. So yes the French Muslim community also needs to accept its share or responsibility But you dont want the USA to end up like France with real examples of Muslim segregation. But in the USA I cant see this happening, its unlikely?

No I don't support the view this is a example of " cultural incompatibility " France does indeed face unique issues around integration of parts of its Muslim community but there are many other EU countries that have been very effective at integration

Guys France does face unique challengers and additional risks from Islamic extremism because of there perceived failures to integrate French speaking Muslims from the former colonies of Tunisia and Algeria There are real ghettos in France where disillusioned and disenfranchised Muslims live who dont feel they are part of the French community. These ghettos are hotbeds of Islamic extremism, I would argue France faces the biggest risk of attack from extremism than most other Western countries My support and thoughts go out to the French people

@ Shady Sorry to hear that about your granddad, my thoughts are with you

You are correct about this, I assumed they would be hookers but not necessarily, they probably students or other women I am impressed you knew this, I didnt think most people knew about this appalling practice .When did you learn about this?

How did you know that? I do stay in a nice, security patrolled, high walled, gated and affluent community but this is exactly where I want to stay, remember I come from white privilege

I thought you guys may appreciate that but you also never know in SA because we always looking for new things that may be racist or offensive

If it has shifted it has done so in the direction of "less freedom". Sounds to me like it's time to stockpile weapons, ammo, gold coins and canned food again, What am I saying? It's ALWAYS time to do that! Yes thats true, I remember when I first noticed you about to have a break after the second Obama victory ... I didnt know you well then so I thought " this guy is really depressed. He is even buying gold always known as safe bet in economic uncertainty "

You raise some good points but remember 70 % of the USA are white. So lets say there are 210 million white people and only 11 million voted for him now So only 1/20 of all white people supported him so nothing should be mandatory or defined about Trump or his outcome

I'd be reluctant to ascribe a singular motive or feeling to large groups of people involving complex situations of which they may only be partially aware. Sure I agree with that sentiment But I have had that debate with Sarex and Drowsy many times and I cant recall anyone ever supporting me ...one guy once but he wasnt local So I assumed people just didnt care to point out the obvious reality that Serbia was involved in war crimes but remember the guys deny this and will end up ignoring you and calling you a troll So when you point it out that will probably be the last time either guy will speak to you I dont compromise on certain truths so I am use to some people just blocking me ..I think there are about 10 people who block me

No Sorry I was talking to Shady but I posted it in Hurlshots family thread which was inappropriate for that thread so I moved it

isn't their purpose to place all of earth under control of the restored caliphate? That would mean you could do nothing at all and still be their enemy if you didn't acquiesce to their religious views and authority. Yes so ISIS in Iraq and Syria want to establish the Caliphate This was local Muslims becoming radicalized but they never went out SA and we face a real challenge with our Muslim community because they believe 9/11 and ISIS are the creations of CIA and The West..so we still have to get people to accept ISIS is real

Was there an army base on Bahrain...Qatar is quite nice but not as good as Bahrain But I need to mention something important, I know you dont care for these details but its bothering me I went to Bahrain when I was working in Saudi for one of those 3 one month projects I did. If you have been to Saudi you will know the Saudi's must be the laziest nation in this earth....almost NO local Saudi works. They just pay for other people to work So my managers on this project were Jordanians, very friendly and just nice people. It was interesting because none of them actually liked the Saudis, they said they arrogant but like me they paid well Now these Jordanians use to drink in Bahrain and use the services of the Russian hookers but they were all married and to be honest they had no respect for women generally and absolutely no respect for hookers And they kept telling me these really crude and offensive jokes about women thinking I would find them funny and we have strict policies at work around codes of conduct and what we can and cannot ever say to customers so I couldn't even tell them I was offended by there humor And then to make things worse, and this was during the morning when we getting drunk and there were no Russians, they confirmed a story I heard about these illegal and truly reprehensible brothels in the Saudi desert that no foreigners are allowed to visit. These brothels are old school medieval structures and when hookers go there for these hectic parties they never get to leave...seriously they dont allow them to leave and apparently they get literally mass raped and horribly abused...to death which can take weeks and the girls are kept in chains or in cages but they never escape because these isolated brothels are in the desert. Of course this is illegal but its apparently something that happens So this made me feel very uncomfortable and when we met the Russians I was very detached from any sexual experience because of what they told me so I paid my date but spent the 2 days partying and drinking with her...no sex but she was very good company...but the guilt never left me of what may befall these girls I needed to tell you this because you are one of the forum members who I do respect due to what you have done with your life and your military service. If you said to me " I cant believe you have paid for services of hookers or strippers in your life " that wouldn't bother me as its true but I dont want you to think I paid for sexual services with ladies in a country like Bahrain knowing how some of the girls get abused...or just never get to return home So in closing, yes I absolutely do support gender equality and my time with the Russian girls was more about companionship I know you dont really judge anyone on these forums as you keep your own council but I wanted to explain what I really did in Bahrain so there is no assumptions about my integrity ( as much as people think I have, I do and some peoples view on me does matter )

Pokemon is one of those games in SA that has been discovered to have racist undertones ...so we dont really play it

This is a strange post and a direct contradiction of how you comment on all topics...you have views on anything you want to...and guess what you live, in Finland So its not relevant to where I live to say " Serbia committed war crimes" ....sorry this is a difficult concept to understand " how can someone comment on a conflict when they dont live there "....I'll be honest I just dont have the interest to really explain how this is possible Maybe someone else will explain it to you? What is sarcasm? ? You were being sarcastic? And how! This is a strange post and a direct contradiction of how you comment on all topics...you have views on anything you want to...and guess what you live, in Finland So its not relevant to where I live to say " Serbia committed war crimes" ....sorry this is a difficult concept to understand " how can someone comment on a conflict when they dont live there "....I'll be honest I just dont have the interest to really explain how this is possible Maybe someone else will explain it to you? What is sarcasm? ? You were being sarcastic? And how! Okay well then I'm sorry for getting annoyed but what you said is more or less what people have said to me in the past on this topic and they were being serious ...I think

Sorry Gorthie but do you realize you are considered an outsider and its unlikely our American friends will believe you

Trump antics were part of his political strategy, almost everything offensive he said was part of his methodology to outmaneuver the Republican establishment Doesnt change the fact he alienate and frustrated many people and will have to deal with consequences on some levels

I might be called many things and I hope "consistent" is one of them! I'm guessing you dating profile just states you love dogs and individual rights. It feels weird sometimes, having been on the forums for so long. You kind of count as a guy I know even if we don't really know each other. You too Brother! I like coming to this board because there is such a wide variety of people and opinions from all over the world. That is hard to find. Most forums tend to become monolithic over time. Not here. GD would you agree these forums have always been fun but it wasnt until we started chatting that your life had new meaning

I might be called many things and I hope "consistent" is one of them! I'm guessing you dating profile just states you love dogs and individual rights. It feels weird sometimes, having been on the forums for so long. You kind of count as a guy I know even if we don't really know each other. Its nice to see you guys acknowledging each other in a meaningful way and you right you guys have probably known each other for over 10 years and that does mean something Thats something about forums I have never been good at understanding, you have people who are active for 10-14 years yet people still havent got to know personal details. I prefer RL engagements and friendships as then I can see what people mean and are feeling

Of course Clinton is a good choice? She has the support of the majority of moderate Americans so she doesnt want to build a wall or deport 11 million people so straight away she will reduce this fear the the world has what Trump can do She wants to continue the Obama legacy and the majority of Americans support this, there is nothing radical or extreme about her policies so we shouldn't see too much of an impact to the world Why dont you think she is a good chocie ?

Hillary is NOT better than Trump. It's just a different variety of bad. While better is perhaps an inadequate word to compare Clinton to Trump, she is definitely less worse than Trump. The whole fascist, xenophobic, incompetent deal with Trump, is a different kind of bad compared to other politicians on the current American political stage. Clinton seems to me very much like a generic American politician, not all that different from most past American political leaders. Terrible, but par for the course. Trump on the other hand is a different kind of monster, begat from the Republicans' appalling political strategies since Nixon and the American "fast food" news media, together with the economic and political dissatisfaction of the lower classes. That the nominally left leaning politicians in first world countries are leaving the lower classes ripe for the picking of the extreme right is the true problem going on here. In that sense Trump is simply a ghastly and frightening symptom of a much larger issue. This is a good post because you have used your own words to describe Clinton and Trump and I feel you have done it in a reasonable way that should resonate with people GD isnt a Trump supporter, many American members think both candidates are worthless But for me Clinton is a better choice and has reasonable plans for the USA

This is a strange post and a direct contradiction of how you comment on all topics...you have views on anything you want to...and guess what you live, in Finland So its not relevant to where I live to say " Serbia committed war crimes" ....sorry this is a difficult concept to understand " how can someone comment on a conflict when they dont live there "....I'll be honest I just dont have the interest to really explain how this is possible Maybe someone else will explain it to you? What is sarcasm? ? You were being sarcastic?

This is a strange post and a direct contradiction of how you comment on all topics...you have views on anything you want to...and guess what you live, in Finland So its not relevant to where I live to say " Serbia committed war crimes" ....sorry this is a difficult concept to understand " how can someone comment on a conflict when they dont live there "....I'll be honest I just dont have the interest to really explain how this is possible Maybe someone else will explain it to you?

http://www.enca.com/south-africa/sa-twins-allegedly-plotted-to-bomb-religious-institute I had to make this its own thread because now Islamic extremism has come to SA It really surprised me because our government has done nothing to offend ISIS and in fact has made some stupidly anti-Western comments To make things worse the US warned our government of a possible Islamic attack and they got criticized for " trying to undermine the SA government " http://www.enca.com/south-africa/us-embassy-says-has-information-on-planned-terrorist-attacks-in-south-africa Our government has no idea about the brutal nature of Islamic extremism and to make things worse most South African Muslims deny ISIS is really a threat and think 9/11 was done by the Americans to themselves

Actually what he said outright (after being smashed as usual with facts) was that Serbia deserved the bombing (in which 3000 civilians died) and all that for the sole reason of getting a rise out of me. Ergo the musings on when he's going to become a real boy, or in other words, a real human being - instead of hiding behind the superficially pleasant personality he uses with remarkable consistency to troll this forum. No I did not say that and I explained what I meant when Zora got snarky I said Serbia was fortunate that NATO intervened when they did to end the war and Serbians aggression, Serbia was already implicated in real war crimes and if the war had continued you would have many more Serbs in the Hague...am I making this up, why is there a Yugoslav Criminal Tribunal in the Hague? . I would never suggest I am happy 3000 Serbian civilians were killed. So back then you were selective about what I meant and now you still got it wrong, Now the real issue still is unresolved, you wont accept any responsibility for Serbian war crimes? But I am now the troll and not a real boy because you wont accept something that is historical fact. But in fact you wont admit this because then the NATO campaign would have validity ...and of course this makes your other points about how the West\NATO is corrupt, biased and not interested in real justice or making meaningful changes to the world You have been saying the West is broken for so long I can imagine it must be very difficult to admit you were wrong, it must feel like you have to create a new identity and that can be daunting