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Dungeon Siege III delayed in europe http://www.computerandvideogames.com/29728...ayed-in-europe/

Thats just wrong. You're hilarious though.

Playstation Blog has a preview up http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/06/...l-co-op-to-ps3/ Edit: No new Information

Yes, but if you'll notice, those are exaggerations of actual features of armor. Armor is heavy. It has pauldrons. "Big hole in the stomach" has not been an actual feature of any armor since we figured out how to make clothing that covers the whole body. I agree on the female part by the way. There were multiple female warriors in history. Though they were rare, very rare exceptions. About the armor. Thats just historically wrong. Full Body Armor isn't the only type of armor in history. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armour

I don't see how the gaming industry being a boys club is really an excuse. It seems more like a bad thing than a good one. Funny how the male model, wearing the same armor, doesn't have a big hole in it. No the male armors have - Way too big shoulder pads with completly useless stuff on it. I really can stop right there because the comical part is actually quite the opposite with Male armors. Way too much stuff and way too heavy. To actually put on that stuff you would easily need half an hour. Less time the more helpers you have. And you need them. And don't get me started on how much mobility you would actually have in that thing. Though. To be fair. Fantasy in general ignores that/has that problem. Still, WOW armor is ridicules in that aspect. As for rushing. Well, yes. It will still shift since that target demographic includes more and more female gamers. Again, its a process.

Second that.

Entry 4 is already beeing written http://eu.dungeonsiege.com/odos-journal.php?i=4 Just a tip: Don't try to translate it.

People's appearance is, in certain ways, a result of their personality. The two aren't completely independent, and that's understood. People who swordfight regularly aren't going to be skinny. People who are celibate or planning to go into a knock-down-drag-in fight aren't going to be wearing dental floss for clothes. I mean, this is one of the best armors in World of Warcraft. It has a giant hole for you to stab the lady in the stomach. I don't think I'm judging people on appearance too much to say that someone who would choose to wear clothes like that into a fight is a moron. Yeah, call me again when World of Warcraft aimed for an realistic artstyle. This also counts for the first argument. And no those points aren't connected. Sure people wear things/train their bodies appropriatly/benefital for certain activities. That doesn't mean they do it always or that they are incapable of executing their abilities anymore. Well, not as good and in extreme situations there are exceptions but still... Gaming needs more women in actual armor though. Yes. Absolutly. Or, in general more games that go for actual realism. Anyway, point still somewhat taken and I'm not speaking out against the thread. Its very good to highlight artistic achievements. (I would strongly disagree on the TF2 swaps though for different reasons.)

Yes, because female sexuality is (much) more stigmatized than male sexuality. And part of that process is criticizing what already exists, and showing how it could be better. Not sure what your point is here. Bad writing is definitely a problem too (Other M), but clothes and shape also represent a kind of forced gender stereotyping and activity. After all, people aren't (generally) forced to wear clothes, they choose to wear them, nor are body types solely the result of nature's providence (and, for a lot of character designs, couldn't occur without surgery). Lots of people wear glasses who aren't teachers, way to engage in backwards stereotypes! *flips table over* 1. Yeah. True and still going. Nothing like it was not even 100 years ago though as its way more open now. Progress. And this is was normal back then. The more back in time the worse it is. 2. Yeah. How could it be done better, I ask? Ban it? Critizizing is totally fine. When its actually appropriate. Shouting out in the world against EVERYTHING regarding it isn't really helping. 3. And why is the second one worse and more rooted against? I ask. What do you do? Judge people by appearance or judge them by personality? Because a ****load of people do the first. Its especially evident when everyone judges a certain group of people just by appearance to be whores/sluts/emos/whatever stamp you want to give to a person. That good or progressive for you? *Personal Rant over* 4. I said PORN archetypes. Yeah there are backwardes stereotypes in there.

I.... don't really think that the problem is "theres more of this than that". Because.... thats not really an argument as much as a observation of a behavior. There is also more porn aimed at males than porn aimed as females and this has good reasons. Not to mention the male side of humanity is still in a phase to shift their behavior towards the female gender. And that process didn't really begin a long time ago. And I don't really see whats wrong with that. Its a process. Theres already a lot more female designers joining gaming companies that will hopefully turn the trend around and give diversity to female charachters. I generally find it much worse when the actual representation of the gender is misused and charachters suddenly act out of charachter just to satisfy a gender stereotype (Madison Paige for example). Or other stuff like daddy issues which "require" that strong male help to solve. Edit: I'll post some too. Edit2: The porn archetypes I meant were a mix of the typical teacher and nurse. Just for the info. Edit3: Good, thread by the way. Its already well known too but I think Visas Marr also fits the thread.

Uhhhhhhhh. To be honest. She IS pretty much a porn archetype. Or to be more precise 2 rolled into 1.

From what I remember of the time line, Jeyne wasn't the one who originally blamed the Legion, it was the King's family. Most notably because the King was paranoid and extremely wary of the Legion. Jeyne acted on this and lead the hunt for the Legion. It seems clear to me that Jeyne wants to control the whole of Ehb, but she's not interested in the throne itself. She's the head of the Azunite church, and it's through the Azunites that she wants to hold power, creating a new system for the country. From the timeline There were already tensions before though with Hendrik sezing Legion properties.

1. This is an old interview. Already posted. 2. Shared Inventory is known for a long time. Considering most loot is unique to a charachter anyway this isn't a real problem. 3. This is only local. (Which is also mentioned RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE ARTICLE) Dude...... Naturally its still not great. But its nothing we did not know.

Because she didn't previously. And she doesn't remind me really of loghain from what I gather. Its not even really the same archetype as theyre reasons for the coup seem to be mighty different. Not to mention Jaynes doesn't seem to be loyal to Ehb as a kingdom. From what I gather through the timeline she gathered loyal support to the point where she could influence things strongly. Then she took out the loyal military (Legion) by playing them out against the populace and monarchie through blaming the kings death on them. (How she managed that, we'll see). And for the last part was the loudest most present mouth against the legion which wins the majority over. After she gained the remaining power she goes openly against the remaining princes (probably through another sheme) and the kingdom collapses. Thats when the game beins. Its actually not a bad plan. Edit: Ahhh, just read it. Yeah, another sheme. (Or not) Edit2: Sadly, the entry makes it a little unclear if she plans to take the throne for herself or just destroy the kingdom right there. Seems to contradict a bit with the timeline.

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Pic from the DSIII comic From here http://www.zapsonline.com/blog/2011/03/29/...re-order-bonus/

Story of my life Also Story of dozens of falied exams. Damnit. Anyway, this time for reelz. Done. Also sorry @Westerngamer my posts are probably too aggressive at the moment.

1. Wow you got me. Its not like I have specified irony as seperate from sarcasm, no sir. 2. Yeah, nice try on misquoting me. Well I'll just copy paste But yeah, apparently all of my personal rules bend down to "It's ok if its exaggeration". The world can only be viewed in black and white. 3. There is a middleground between going along and going against. You know I'm from Switzerland (Neutrality, bitches) and I believe in the concept that there are always two sides to a medal and they are both worth examing to find a preferable solution without going to extremes. Yes, thats what makes me classy. ... And its extended to everything to answer your question. Naturally it still has to relate somewhat to the situation/charachter at hand. Which is one of my points in 2.

.... Well I'm still awake You are REALLY bad at sarcasm. Direct approach, no irony thrown in. Nah. Also acting like a ****. Nice one dude. Your moral highground is reaching the stars. And no you don't. I would just make excuses for the excuse again, don't I?

Ivy's attire is not only ridiculous, but I'm not even sure it's actually wearable. What Katarina has showed until now is realistic, as in "actually exists". And you just reminded me of Taki's jiggle physics from Soul Calibur 2. Thank you for nothing sir, as those were utterly disgusting. Yep. Pretty much. Soul Calibur got worse with every new installment and its extremly visible. Though I wouldn't call Katarinas outfit "realistic". In context. So now that was really my last post for today. Night^^.

Man in bigger and bigger plate armors that cover everything while looking ridiculous are attractive to women? That's news for me. Well thanks for taking things out of context. I wasn't talking about Lucas and that is in no way the majority of male charachters in video games. Also, it does if the armor is "shaped" a certain way.

1. Yes, I bring up Baynoetta. No its not a failure if you can get past the exggaration which seems to be an impossible feet here. I was genuinly impressed with it. Just have to mention Lucas again. Have problems finding a featured love interest in a game that rivals his handling as a love interest. 2. Nathan Drake is a horrible example and completly over the top too. We can have a nice, fine discussion about the beginning/flash sequence of Uncharted 2 and how much sense it makes regarding climbing/surviving in extreme situations if you want. But hey at least he looks cool when he does that stuff. And Kratos? Most of his outift makes no sense. 3. Again, exgarration. But ohhhhh no. I know. Things like this aren't allowed. We're sexists. Edit: Just to note: I agree there is a dominace of it on the female side where it is not okay. Soul Calibur Charachter where its "just" done for fanservice combined with ridiculus voices/text are actually a good example of that. Thanks.

Back to you. Read your own post again and think about what is stereotypicaly attractive to women.... Essentialy the same thing, at least visually. (Well, except Epic Style Fat Space Marines) Edited so it fits better. Edit2: Have forgotten an example: Mass Effect 2/Dragon Age 2

Those aren't exactly good games to take inspiration from as far as art style goes. Let's face it, what's done is done, but that kind of art direction decision is something I'd like to see disappear from game. It implies a double standard in the way genders are handled by the artists to my eyes, not to mention that it also immediately strikes me as generic. And to think that Obsidian did very well so far.. How? Actually, most male charachters are JUST as exagerrated. Or am I suddenly living in a world where every second dude is completly ripped? I guess it isn't as much of an issue with the male demographic because of "Power Fantasy". I see the double standard more in relation to real life women. Why is it that the same thing is usually way less of an issue when it comes to movies and tv? Exagerration is just as viable as realism.