Raithe

And one thing to remember...

Frankly, it comes down to a matter of trust. And the EU just hasn't had the appearance of transparency or trustworthiness to a lot of people in the UK. The Remain campaign never tried to answer those questions, and the Leave campaign tended to be equally schmucky.

For the side line of things.. Just to interject a small moment of consideration... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9rjGTOA2NA&feature=youtu.be

I just wish someone other than Farage would get on the cameras to claim the victory for the Leave campaign. He's an annoying schmuck.

I think that was a big problem with the campaign. Neither side really presented useful information, both used a lot of scare tactics. The Remain camp pushed the negativity of leaving, but never actually said why it's a good reason to be in it beyond "bad things will happen" and the "if you vote leave you're racist and ignorant" - which doesn't exactly win you votes. Neither side really tried explaining to the population how the EU democratic process works or how it relates to us as common citizens. When it comes down to that, it seems to leave a lot of people with pretty much a "I don't feel I have control over any politicians, but if I vote leave, at least I'll only be stuck with the one group of annoying politicians not two."

Looking at the maps of how things went, it is kind of interesting that the big push for "Remain" votes in England happened to be around London and the M1 area.. which is the big commute in and out of London.

I will say this, my inner paranoia wants to run rampant when you go to the polling station and they only provide pencils to make your mark....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3VLqLLWxbQ

Sky - EU campaign damages respect for politicians

Snerk. (and no, I haven't fully decided just yet)

<whistles innocently>

Heh. and then I run into a big editorial over how if Britain votes leave, it could lead to Trump winning the US Election. Is this scare tactics run wild?

Remember Bruce, Europe is a very big case of "me against my brother, my brother and I against the world..." just with a lot more underhanded chicanery going on. And a few cousins that somehow got married.

BBC - UK and the EU: Better off out or in? A look at the issues and what both sides have to say.

One of the interesting quirks I've noted of late, is the push to say that the Leave campaign is anti-globalisation. Now, while a chunk of the Leave do seem to contain a bunch of xenophobic isolationists, a whole batch of the Leave campaign has been pushing on the idea that once we're out of the EU we'll be able to have better trade relations and connections with the world at large outside of Europe. Now, is it me, but isn't that actually kind of pro-globalisation?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IptvSQY9Qa8

For the rather entertaining imagery...

Cameron says he must do more to make the case for staying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkAQaECakNc