Orogun01

The Alpha Male doesn't need to prove that it's the alpha male; to put it in perspective I'll use an analogy. If you saw an adult fighting a child over the fact that the child threw him a cake, who would you side with? The kid did wrong but the adult being the bigger party has to act the part and behave properly (look for the parents and expect them to punish their child) Same way, a company taking on a bunch of teenagers seems like an adult taking on a child even if they are right to do so. No it's not, DRM effect is directed towards their product which in turn has an effect on anyone who consumes it. But the fact remains that it's focused on the product; which it's under their control, and not the consumer who they'll never be able to. The only customer is a paying customer, pirates are thieves and they should not be counted as a target demographic. Agreed, but the focus of the discussion was the distinction of customer and pirate. Sorry about your sister but she is irrelevant to this topic.

Heavily biased but funny reviews. It's kind of sobering to see games from his perspective, specially when they are so highly acclaimed.

I'll second that AC2 has one of the best DLC ever they actually add to the story so seamlessly that it's hard to know that they are in fact DLCs. Although they still had a few bugs. That's because they were planned way ahead and/or removed from the main game to sell later. Seems likely, I think that the testing had something to do with it. But still it was a great DLC, gave some background characters the chance to shine (Caterina Sforza is one of my favorites characters of the year)

Pushing what issue? All the "catfight"gossip that has taken over the news. Please; people don't care, they know, they have always known and don't care. Nobody has their panties in a bunch, there isn't any juicy that's going to dramatically change domestic policy. As soon as this becomes old news we won't even remember that it happened.

Their folly then. As a company they should watch what they say and "how" they say just because it's going to be scrutinized by the whole world. Like I said in my previous post, they can't control the actions of pirates only their own. What makes them consumer is that they buy the product not steal it, robbers aren't consumers. Consumers are costumers and the customer is always right (since he's paying for a service) CD Projeckt had that horrible Tages DRM for the first Witcher, caused a boatload of problems the most grave people unable to play their games and constant crashes because of Tages security. They learned their lesson, Ubisoft did the same thing with AC2 that actually screwed the ones that bought the game more than the ones that downloaded the cracked version. Agreed.

Alice in Chains-Heaven beside you

Sorry to hear, my condolences and that the good memories remain. On another topic: Funny thing having this argument about cars since I bought one this weekend.

They decide when their comments become complaints, there is tone to writing and one can easily infer whining in a lot of anti-piracy. Companies are frustrated that they are losing money and that shows on their comments.They should not be focusing on the people who they have no control over and focus on their product and DRM that they do. But it's now that piracy has become a noticeable problem despite all the modern DRM, so they are not working. Gamers are not a corporation of whom a certain manner is expected from, one gamer whining hardly causes concern. One company whining and saying that their response to piracy is to hurt the gamer is. People change from 20 to 30 or rather their situation changes, they get jobs, leave the nest and go out into society as full members. A big change from not being able to fend for yourself, having odd jobs to pay for school/supplies, and borrowing money from family.

I'll second that AC2 has one of the best DLC ever they actually add to the story so seamlessly that it's hard to know that they are in fact DLCs. Although they still had a few bugs.

I'm your Huckleberry

This is something I see often, accusing businesses of greed, but is it really greedy to want to stop those who take your product for nothing? When does something move from a legitimate attempt at defending their business to just being greedy? If a company has 100 million dollars, and they come after me to get the 1 million I stole from them, are they just being greedy because, like, they've still got another 99 million? There is a proper manner to conduct yourself on that situation, basically don't stoop to the level of the pirates (who are probably a great majority of teenagers and young adults) You don't bring the whole bearing of your force on someone weaker than you; makes you look like a bully. Nor do you whine about them, that only makes you look weak. Basically they shouldn't even be acknowledging them as the problem and just try to improve either their DRM or their market tactics.

Black market for games suck. There is better profit on electric appliances, I know I used to work on it.

Volo, most people download pirated products because they don't want to pay for it. How is that purchasing?

I actually heard the news yesterday. I slept badly Does anyone know where they are holding his funeral? NVM, I found it.

It's important because we it's a "crimeless" crime; it is theft but it's never treated as such. There isn't an attempt to cut down on it by legal authorities because of the worldly expanse of the internet and the fact that they are actually shorthanded if they were to arrest every person who downloaded a song illegally. I don't know much about the economic models of game developing, but seeing as every chant against piracy it's sung by the corporations I'm partial to think that it's just them being greedy. Since piracy it's not as widespread as they make it.

Gee, thanks for the name calling I have never said that it was ok, it's just that there is both a lack of impartial opinions (and studies) and a lack of appropriate legislation for the crime. Unless we can appropriately determinate how is piracy hurting each industry we won't we able to reach a consensus on the course of action. Quite frankly I see no stopping to piracy, they should just seek alternative ways to counter it/

Uh, what? I don't think this is a hard concept. A person spends a bunch of their time creating something, they ask for payment for it. When you take it without paying, even if it is digital, how is that not completely wrong? What does this have to do with the Middle East again? Just a little red herring to illustrate my point. My point it's that there is an obvious bias with invested interests, it's illegal there is no doubt of that. The only problem is determining how much piracy hurts the industry. Hey, there is guys who steal millions of dollars and get away with just a slap on the wrist, just how wrong is downloading a pirated product? Should we send those guys to jail and make them pay for lost revenue?

This is why it is hard to understand your viewpoint. Not a big deal to whom? We've had two developers come in here and tell you otherwise. We've had a writer tell you it is a big deal to copy their work. These are people with invested interests telling you it is a big deal. So who are you talking about? It's not a big deal to the pirates? Of course it isn't, they have no invested interest. Copyright infringement is also a crime. In many countries the penalties are identical to theft. I'm not sure why you are so hung up on that. "People with invested interests" Same as the people with invested interests on the middle east that dragged us to war? The profit bias is obvious, they are the afflicted party here and not the judge. So far there hasn't been an impartial study of the subject, it's either done by groups supporting or against piracy. Is it a crime? Yeah Are the companies exaggerating their losses? Of course. Will people continue to pirate games in the future? Yeah. Piracy is and it isn't a crime; technically it's the provider who steals the product but for some reason the customer is also held liable.

This guy

Ok what are they hoping to learn?

Happy Birthday! Ah, 22, I remember it fondly. That was the age I met my wife. Enjoy it! Thanks now to get drunk and eat meat.

Woke up, realized that i'm now 22 and went back to sleep.

FOOK, just FOOK and fast.

I agree, my disappointment comes with the speed of advancement on these fields. Probably because they are more unconventional than any other, as we become more dexterous on translating these finds into practical applications we may see faster development. The problem is that the layman usually doesn't have an advanced degree on physics, which leaves only a small amount of people with the knowledge to invent using these discoveries. As opposed to electricity who Edison rode to glory. Technology is leaving us behind.

Didn't NASA's budget got cut up? How are they going to afford it?