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I like this "all". If you can't do 100%, don't do 99% either. Having said that, screening is only marginally effective since symptoms normally take 8-10 days to develop and without symptoms Ebola can't be detected. The only real solution is a travel ban from epidemic countries.
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You have to keep in mind that American main stream press are just Democrat party operatives that won't admit it.
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I'd like to see you filing that lawsuit.
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There's no way to know who does and doesn't support ISIS. If a guy in Saudi Arabia supports ISIS and decides to fly over to the US; there's nothing we can do. We're not mind readers. Supporting ISIS is one thing. I'm sure a lot of visitors from Muslim lands are supporters. But if you want to get trained terrorists with weapons and explosives into the US, being smuggled across the border is the way to go. Think of the Mumbai attack, there's a reason they didn't just fly into India on commercial air. Btw, Judicial Watch, which was the source in my link, just uncovered another government cover up : http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/16/Eric-Holder-s-Top-Deputy-Resigns-Amid-Revelation-Administration-Covered-Up-Use-Of-Fast-and-Furious-Guns-In-Phoenix-Crime
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Here's a good commentary : http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-end-of-columbus-day-is-end-of.html Except he's wrong on Hispanics not being minorities because they descended from Spaniards. They're minorities because they also descended from Indians.
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Second transmission here, and our government has been shown once again to be a bunch of lying incompetents at best.
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It wouldn't necessarily be easier to get in by air, since US intelligence, or whatever's left of it, is supposed to be watching those kinds of threats. Same with Canada, we have more confidence in their security abilities than in those of Latin American countries. Edit: Here's an Iranian plot for a Mexican drug cartel to assassinate the Saudi ambassador : http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/30/justice/new-york-saudi-assassination-plot/ But of course ISIS would never think to hire a Mexican drug cartel to help them carry out an attack.
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You keep saying this, OK I'll bite. Why does it not make sense for ISIS to cross the border?
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Sorry I wasn't aware you asked me a question about South African travel restrictions, I am unaware of them to be honest. I haven't heard anything official but there are definitely travel bans from other African countries where if you have travelled to any of the 5 affected countries in the last 2 months you will be denied entry But I don't believe the USA needs to implement such changes. Also the impact around the USA doing that and a country like Mauritius would be very different? The required steps from the USA doing it would create much more logistical issues. Especially considering the fact the USA is now really committed to stopping the spread of Ebola in Western Africa and is actually the only country in the world that is prepared to send troops and make other resource commitments So it's OK for you guys to be safe, but we don't need to be? So what if a few people get infected and die, that's assuming that an outbreak can even be contained. So far all I see is incredible hubris, and no actual logical analysis. The only way the rest of Africa is going to avoid an epidemic is to restrict travel, yet the WHO is opposed to even that. Edit: Here's an analysis of how air travel increases chances of an outbreak: http://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/10/13/6959103/ebola-spread-international-epidemic-china-india-europe Thankfully China and India seem safe for now, the West deserves our higher chances because we're evil.
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They're coming up with excuses for their stupid policy; not denying whole events. Big Difference. The point is that they're concealing information American citizens have the right to know. If they're concealing this, you can't be confident in anything they say.
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People who are offended by Columbus should go back to wherever their ancestors came from. It's the only morally right thing to do.
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There are about 150 people coming from the affected countries to the US per day. What cost and disruption? Just don't give them visas. Do you have any idea of the damage, probably hundreds of billions, if not trillions, to the US economy if Ebola panic spreads? Have you noticed what's been happening to the stock market lately?
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I've posted about this before, how to figure out if we live in a computer simulation : http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-10/11/universe-computer-simulation I don't know, doesn't sound that convincing.
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Straw man. I'm not saying don't fight it there or don't send aid, but stop non-essential travel to outside. Banning travel would've stopped the current two incidents, any idiot should be able to see that. Edit: You'll notice how it's OK for other African countries to restrict travel, including South Africa which Bruce never answered me about, but we have to be the martyrs to the world, because we're evil or something. https://www.internationalsos.com/ebola/index.cfm?content_id=435&language_id=ENG
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B) Isn't so unlikely, the government's been lying just about everything. The link I posted wasn't just referring to Hunter (if at all), but to reports from Judicial Watch, which has already uncovered several government cover ups. Edit: Here's another cover up for you, there seems to be one every day: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/10/11/Army-Refuses-to-Release-Findings-of-Bergdahl-Investigation
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Not all travelers right now, just the ones from affected countries. That guy wanting to see his girlfriend and overstay his visa isn't a good enough reason to expose the entire country to a deadly disease.
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Well, we got the first transmission in the US. Thanks Obola, you degenerate cretin.
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The transmission is relatively slow, but by the same token you don't know who to quarantine until they start showing symptoms, at which point they also become infectious. A small outbreak can be contained by contact tracing, but if it ever becomes too large it'll be impossible to track all the contacts, and then it becomes an epidemic.
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Dead Souls is a novel by Gogol.
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It's doubling every month, what's 2 to the power of 12? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/11/world/africa/officials-admit-a-defeat-by-ebola-in-sierra-leone.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0 Edit: The reason it seems to start slowly is because it has a long incubation period, during which the victim is supposedly not infectious. But in the long run that's irrelevant, unless the re-infection rate is brought to below 1.
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He meant "so that the public doesn't learn the truth". I'd believe Judicial Watch over the Feds any day, the Feds have been caught lying again and again, speaking of mainstream sources the Washington Post discovered another White House cover up just today. But I'll concede the facts about ISIS are in dispute at this point. Hunter's source has already admitted that people who were apprehended only "might" have been ISIS. Nothing is in dispute. Hunter heard a rumor and decided to state it as fact; quite irresponsibly. The department of homeland security went ahead and let people know the rumor was BS; not that they should have even been needed to clarify since the idea that ISIS would sneak into the country through the Mexican border is stupid. Johnson has made similar denials before, only to admit later that there was something to the reports. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/homeland-security-says-terrorists-havent-crossed-us-mexico-border/ Of course there's no way to know the full truth unless the government owns up to it, but I don't trust anything they say.
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It's inevitable because of the refusal to quarantine the countries affected, and the studies said so.
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You may not believe you're a Democrat, but when was the last time you actually voted for a Republican for a nationwide office? And for your information, I do read different sources, you're the one with a phobia for conservatives. I evaluate everything objectively and am well aware of biases on either side. Trust me, I check out every link I post to the best of my ability.
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Solar tower cancelled because it incinerates birds : http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/10/09/Solar%20Company-Drops-Project-Incinerating-Birds-Bad-for-Business
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I want to get Styx, but just can't handle another game right now. Focus has been very active lately. Do you have any thoughts on how it compares to Dishonored?