Wrath of Dagon

Yes, well we "steal" land for roads and pipelines all the time. Of course, the owner is compensated, so it's not stealing as you say. As far as cost, no where near what we're already spending on the mangy illegals, I mean we have to pay Hurl's wife to educate them for one thing.

That wouldn't solve anything as there is an almost limitless number of people wanting in. Unless you want to take in a good chunk of the world that solution won't work. It's very well known how to secure the border. Build a good 2 or 3 layer fence and actually patrol it. It's working as San Diego right now. As far as other ways, we need an entry/exit visa tracking system that Congress has voted for many times but somehow just never gets implemented. It's almost unbelievable that in the age of computers the government actually has no way to tell if someone has overstayed a visa.

Hiring them isn't helping them break the law. The that they entered this country without following the legal process was just as broken whether or not they are working. I guess you'd rather they be living off welfare than working. The issue of illegal immigration is between the illegal and the government; not between me and the government. Yet if I hire a guy to fix my porch, and it turns out he's an illegal; I'm in big trouble. I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for that. May be if he was an actual employee, but these days not even that. And of course you're helping them stay here illegally if you pay them, they're theoretically ineligible for welfare, although the government probably pays them illegally anyway. You do have a point that it's the government's job to enforce the laws, not the citizens, that's why they should be stopped at the border, the whole thing is a farce. But this whole thing of enforcing the laws against your own citizens and not against everyone else who comes here illegally and then proceeds to break all kinds of laws (not paying taxes, fake and stolen identities, forged documents, fake tax refunds), and that's not even the real hard core criminals who easily go back and forth across the border, is getting real old. At some point you got to think citizens will stop respecting the law the same way they see the government do it.

It is a fact that the officer didn't know about the robbery. I'd cite Tweets, but I know you've pretty much made up your mind. I know that now, but in the morning when I posted they were reporting the opposite. I guess nowadays you have to wait two days after any news just to see if today they're still saying the same thing as yesterday. As far as you knowing my mind, you must be psychic. I'm waiting for all the facts to come out, and I think it will happen in not too distant future.

Probably just another harassing political indictment, something Austin democrats love to do to Republicans. I would think Perry has immunity for any official act. As far as Republican party becoming either Democrats 2 or Libertarians 2, you can already vote for those parties.

Yeah, and property rights don't mean you get to help others break the law.

Rostere doesn't believe Israel has the right to exist, so you have to take his posts in that spirit. But good observations on his usual propaganda.

.... you do know this situation extends far beyond the initial incident, right? You do know that Brown was shot up to ten times, right, after he put his hands up? I mean, you're just being a troll, right? Or else do you actually think it's okay to execute someone who is peacefully surrendering just because they committed a prior crime? At this point I don't know any of that for a fact. If it was, it would be case closed. In that case I believe the officer. He took his taser out, put it back, then took the gun out and shot the victim. Why would he do that in public unless his mind flipped the gun with the taser, I know that kind of thing happens, especially under pressure.

So by your logic I should be able to shoot anyone I want, because the gun is my property and I can do whatever I want with it. Property rights aren't absolute, even under capitalism.

Or we could not assume and just wait for all the facts to come out. May be police used excessive force, may be they didn't. Yeah the guy was unarmed, but he's a 6'4" 290 lbs giant. You can see him assaulting the clerk in the robbery video, anyone would be scared for his life.

Capitalism isn't a political philosophy, it's an economic system.

So the police are now saying the reason the shooting victim was stopped was because he had just committed a robbery in a convenience store. Looks like once again everyone has jumped to conclusions and we've been fed a narrative to advance an agenda.

Cisco lays off 6000 after calling for amnesty, guest workers : http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/14/Cisco-Slashes-6-000-Jobs-After-Pushing-More-Amnesty-Guest-Worker-Visas

I'm well aware of it. Illegal immigration is not the only issue that worries me, there's almost nothing that's going on that I like. Our economic policies are far from stable and sound, they're better characterized as suicidal. After all, great empires have fallen before, in fact always, so there's lots to be concerned about even if right now you could still say we're in great condition compared to the rest of the world. Edit : You could visit Detroit to see some Democrat lead destruction. Haha what? You sure there, chief? You know how there's only a finite amount of money, right? You know that to make the poor less poor, the rich would necessarily have to give some of that up, right? What we're talking about here is you, an American right-leaning (I assume) Republican, clearly and openly advocating that the "American system" is all about resource sharing as opposed to naked capitalism. It's a see saw, for one side to be high up, the other side has to be low down. Otherwise, if you balance everybody in the middle, you've got socialism. It might not be what you want to project America's system as being, but that's a whole hell of a lot different from it not actually being America's system. That's about as ignorant a statement on economics as I've ever seen, it actually sounds like satire. "Finite money" has nothing to do with anything, nor is it finite. The important thing is as a market economy grows, everyone who participates in it benefits. Some get more out of it, some get less, but everyone's lot improves.

Got to love the wisdom of our government : http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-adviser-jihadists-caliphate-absurd_802853.html?utm_campaign=Washington+Examiner&utm_source=washingtonexaminer.com&utm_medium=referral

Wolfenstein. What a douche decision not to give a check point when they know you're likely to die. Taking much longer than it should, might give up at some point.

Cool, I forgot that was in the works.

You're right to a large extent, it's a contributing factor, especially among the younger people. Then again, we don't need 2 Democrat parties. But immigration and demographic trends are a huge factor also. Edit : For example, in Texas the cultural issues are not a problem, it's still quite socially conservative. But the demographic changes mostly wrought by illegal immigration are a huge factor, and I am convinced will make Texas Democrat and ruin it like they ruined so many places within the decade. I don't think you understand why people value the Constitution so much. It's not that's it's a holy relic, is that it's the Supreme Law of the land, and when you ignore it, you undermine the rule of law, which is mankind's greatest achievement. The reason people admire it so much is not from religious feeling as you claim, but because it is still the best human attempt to guaranty liberty and justice for all. If there are problems with the Constitution, it has an amendment process which has been utilized many times, it just requires broad national consensus.

Yeah, the "world" kind of wishes hitler has succeeded. Most of UN human rights resolutions are against Israel, completely ignoring all the other paragons of human rights.

That assumes that the rich want to keep the poor poor. But why should they? It's not clear that they do, it's never been the American system. I'm happy the way things are, I'm not sure I'll be happy the way they will be soon. The leftists are slowly but surely destroying this country, at least that's my belief. As far as the improved living conditions, that's mostly the result of technology and capitalism, the political system only comes into play to the extent it hinders the former.

Here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy It's not that dictatorship is superior to democracy, the argument is that a democracy will devolve into a dictatorship anyway. I think democracy would work better if there was a qualification for voting, like you have to pay income tax to vote. Voting used to be limited only to property owners, it seems to me making voting universal has actually hurt democracy.

All that shows is that foreign workers work cheaper, not that there are no Americans willing to take those jobs. It's the same situation with H1B visas. Am I the only one who finds this type of perspective hard to believe? The lack of effectiveness to implement proper immigration reform or control is really about the Democrats staying in power? It's been that way for decades. It's working too, even Texas will turn Democrat within 10 years, Republican party is dead even if they don't know it yet. Gaza border is very secure, true Hamas managed to build a bunch of tunnels in secret, but they've now been destroyed. Attacks across that border are very rare. Also our border only has to be about 90% secure, not 100% secure like Israel's. Edit: "Osama Bin Laden" crosses US border : http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/08/11/watch-osama-bin-laden-illegally-crosses-the-texas-mexico-border/

Lifetime Hardware Sales: Wii - 101.04 million PS3 - 83.01 million 360 - 82.63 million Lifetime Software Sales By Platform: Wii - 921.30 million 360 - 897.70 million PS3 - 835.52 million OK, that's units, but not dollars. The Wii was supposed to have a very low attach rate, non-gamers would buy it as a fad, play the enclosed games a few times, then put it back in the box and never look at it again, which has certainly been my observation. The number of units probably includes the free games included with the Wii, which wasn't so much the case with other consoles.

EU and NATO member renounces democracy : http://www.the-american-interest.com/articles/2014/08/07/the-mask-is-off/ Edit: Also http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html

You agree that criminal migrants should be stopped, how will that be achieved without border control? They turn to crime because of the culture bred by dependency, and because of hopelessness. Having access to entry level jobs would be a huge influence for the better. As far as everyone having to pay minimum wage, prices would increase a bit, but your argument is for the well-to-do to benefit from exploitation. Securing the border wouldn't magically get rid of all illegal labor immediately, but it would start a restoration of the rule of law in this country. Not arguing against that, but training for jobs you can't compete for doesn't make much sense either. I'm not sure where I said to make undocumented workers legal citizens. Far from it, I want the US and Mexico to work with each other so that we can tap the labor force our economy relies on. Many undocumented workers split time between the two countries, again they come here for the opportunities that are available. They have communities and families in both countries, and so the meager salaries that they are afforded help sustain a larger group. It is incredibly communal. Here is another interesting idea about our border, if you are interested. I guess an argument can be made US and Mexico should de facto become one country, but I don't see the benefit. Anyway something like that should be democratically decided, not be done by fiat. We don't have a labor shortage in this country, certainly not an unskilled labor shortage, so importing more labor from abroad doesn't make sense. If they did work here they'd have to be given the same wages and working conditions as Americans, otherwise you're just exploiting people. Also Mexico isn't the only source of illegal immigration by far. Btw, going back to your farm worker argument, Cesar Chavez organized the (legal) farm workers for better pay and benefits, and that was back when Americans were working the fields. Of course all those gains have now been destroyed by the overwhelming employment of illegals.