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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ If you want decent range or melee build, then just pick single-class Monk - on L8 they get Resonate touch skill, this skill with max might add ~25 raw damage for each your hit, on L9 they get Whispers of the Wind which currently the best unlimited mult-target ability in the game So for example if your enemies stay together each Blunderbuss hit can generate resonate on each enemy in blunderbuss AOE, 5 FULL ATTACKS HITS with Whispers of the Wind on 5 Enemies can generate 10 Resonates for each enemy which equal to ~250 non avoidable damage per target, but the real fun starts when you pick Kitchen Stove, with +2 projectiles update, now after Whispers of the Wind you can generate 15 Resonante per target in blunderbuss AOE and 4 per target (and may generate up 40 resonates for random target in) from Kitchen Stove which is something like 19 Resonates ~ 400DM per target, which in summary may get you ~2500 DM per single ability

You miss situation when you has middle defenses and high armor, when you don't want to receive crits very often because then armor will be useless, good example is Devoted/Paladin without shield, you will have good AR but low deflection, +20 deflection will make you completely immune to boss crits

Okay, I want to point for everyone who think that BDD is cheesy and better than healing - that is not true Let me show simple example 1. First guy is Paladin with 21 AR - This guy usually reduce all incoming damage by -300%, he don't need BDD but need healing 2. Second guy is Marauder Streetfighter/Berserker - This guy is require BDD because there no exist others ways too survive damage peak instead of deflection stacking and out-healing 3. Third example is Helwalker/Devoted - With Plate armor - do you think that BDD will be better than Unbending ? No because your own Unbending cast will give you 30s of immortality, when BDD will give you maximum 12s So everyone complains only about Glass Canon builds that can survive damage peaks long period of time, because they sacrifice their armor and deflection for DPS purposes ? Yes in this case BDD is better, but you should understand that in other games exist alternative mechanic for such builds: AGGRO system Life Leaching Evasion Red button passives with long cool-down So if we talk about Solo then you will need special Priest build, this mean that if you can't kill all enemies in ~40S you will die (do you think this is proper GOD mode ? I don't think so) If we talk party then BDD can be threaten as cheesy, but again ask yourself what the difference between -300% DM from Paladin and 12S of God mode o 30S of Unbending ? If you can get GOD mode for unlimited period of time then yes, this is cheat, but you can always increase duration of lay on hands with salvation of time and get 20hp per 3S for 30S, or get Blade Turning for 25S ... But to counter such simple mechanic, Obsidian can add BOSS which will disable all beneficial effects for short period of time... In Grim Dawn exist boss who by timer dispel all your buffs, if Obs will add such boss n the game be sure you will hate him much more

Very stable and cool build, good job I have played with same build, but instead of Banquet, I used Hylea Food for additional +10 deflection and Injury which reduce corrode armor rating by 2 and fortitude by -5 + I picked Fire Godlike (because of +1 armor rating) and Helwalker Monk (with maxed resolve and middle might / int ) + I used cloak which scale with history

1. NO, PD works only on engaged targets, i.e rogue/monk with +500% won't work 2. NO, it affect all sources of direct damage i.e Range/Melee attacks and no DoTs spells

**** happens, is this what you need ? abilities.7z.txt

But you forget to say that Arcane Dampener or any other effects which reduce buffs duration usually mean instant death (that why my latest build can't kill BoW dragon solo), on other side full-healed character for example with Unbending can survive such spell So you can easily dispel GOD mode, There also exist Babel spell in WoW and similar mechanic in Dota and BG series also has scrolls with immunity to different things (Undead, Magic, Weapon)

Mathematically you right and I really like that this spell give us one more way to survive a lot of damage, but technically BDD is GOD mode, i.e even console commands like KillAllEnemies (which can kill Ukaizo during transitions) can't kill guys under BDD effect, under BDD effect you can get more that 3 injuries and survive instant death abilities

The second funny thing is their PL system, I think only few people can explain what +2PL or +1PL mean, this is like magic, let's look on simple example 1. Monks fists DM/PEN scaling - 7PL - Mean +11 PEN, +16ACC, DM 60% and 12PL mean 14PEN, 28 ACC, 90% - 28 ACC the highest weapon accuracy bonus in the game 2. Rogue sneak attack - 7PL mean ~ 45% DM and 12 PL - 70% 3. Any martial ability +5% to base damage per PL, any magic ability +10% DM per PL and +0.3 PEN, +5% ? to duration

.... or just set bottom and upper bounds ... but the real problem with their system isn't player's misunderstanding, this complication cause that even their own developers don't understand how this should work The real example is negative crit modifier - which lead critical strikes do less damage than normal strikes Or enchants which should balance something like +15%, -15% negative effects Or grazes which cause -75% addictive damage instead of lowered resulted damage by half Or penetration +3 difference in armor lower damage by 300% and +2 difference lower them only by 75% - (I'm think that original idea was lowering incoming damage exactly by 75%, 50%, 25%, this make sense because then you will be able damage bosses with high armor ) Or .... In summary Deadfire is good example, why developers must always prefer simple things over complicated

Man you do a good job, and I will help you in testing your Shifter mod, but not in current patch, now after 1 hour of game-play I get huge FPS drop and that infinity animation loop... It occurs every few 5 - 10 minutes for me While we waiting for next patch, maybe you will develop PL8 - PL9 abilities I really want to see pure Shifter with Aspect of Galawain or Dragon form

FIFY You right, but ins't Chanter + Wizard (Grimoire of Vaporous Wizardry) + Empower not enough ? I assume that with Sasha sabre you will be able to cast 5 - 6 times L9 abilities per fight in row

I agree with @thelee the problem is infinity resources, Obsidian if you read this topic please don't nerf BDD or Salvation of Time At the end Troubadour can cast His Heart Did Fill With the Light of the Dawn fast enough to make Doom Hammer st-unlock and smash bosses without big problems

I don't think that nerfing things like infinity BDD or 50+ ticks CW stacking has any relation to bug fixes, currently most of the time devs spent on developing new content. and not on balance

Yes, I don't talk about consumables, if you worrying about Wounds ranger guys will generate them enough, you can also equip Heavy Armor, but even Devil Caroc will be enough

So you never try One big shield and Blade Turning will complete this fight pretty fast, you spawn copies and Blade Turning that it

My issue is unlimited Suppress Affliction + BDD + Salvation combination, this make 2 guys in your party immune to everything, death, afflictions ... To my knowledge when it comes to suppress Affliction, it only affects debuffs currently running on the char. If a debuff is reapplied then a new combat check is made and suppress won't work unless recast. Last time I noticed this was vs Fampyrs spamming domination on a playthrough I had a few weeks ago. Yes, I completely forget about that, never-mind, but unlimited Minor Avatar or Shields for the Faithful is also very strong

Oh, did you test L13 monk ? How Character with Blade Turning and The Dichotomous Soul can lose this battle ?

My issue is unlimited Suppress Affliction + BDD + Salvation combination, this make 2 guys in your party immune to everything, death, afflictions ... Maybe make Salvation to only extend a base of 5 second duration, and make brilliant gives resource every 12 second instead? This change will make Salvation of Time completely useless skill, because it's duration doesn't scale with INT and PL > Make brilliant gives resource every 12 second instead Why then not regain 2 resources per cast ?

AoE weapons are for trash mobs, it doesn't matter what defense u target, you will not use it for a boss with 150+ fortitude defense anyway. Sungrazer is pretty good on a rogue, although it's on kill & on crit, the damage is pretty high, also aoe from the on kill proc can trigger that 5% chance effect too, so it's not as low as u imagine. Same as the soulbound dagger, it has a 10% chance AOE effect which can trigger itself. If you need AOE, just pick pure Monk, their L8 - L9 skills the funniest melee skills in the game, they work both on Single Target and on Multiple Targets, do decent damage

My issue is unlimited Suppress Affliction + BDD + Salvation combination, this make 2 guys in your party immune to everything, death, afflictions ...

I think it should give your +10 - 15 acc but for both weapon's same as Scordeo's Trophy give you +x recovery time for all abilities

Yes, this is my favorite combination of classes which I currently play Skaen/Streetfighter and Ascendant Don't forget to buff both Priest & Cipher with Barring Death's Door and Suppress Affliction + you can have unlimited Priest summon (with Unlimited Robus inspiration) OR take new cape, that summons illusions, cast on them Barring Death's Door and enjoy 5 priests guys with Unlimited resources But yeah, I think Obsidian should simple remove Briliant Inspiration from the game, it is to OP and just restore 1 - 2 class resources per ability cast and stop Salvation to increase Ascendant duration This fix will resolve all issues at least for this combination

I assume that technically you can get zero recover with Scordeo's Edge proc, because it give you instant recovery for all abilities for short period of time

Alternative setup is The Shieldbearers of St.Elcga / Ascendant + Wizard / Skaen - this combination is also very fun, but only L16+, because Paladin's Hands of Light stop interruptions and prevent your Thaumaturge from Death at once for +30s after Salvation of Time cast