Ben No.3

saying that you don't care about the ideology pursuited by a politician is dumb (sorry) and you know why.

I agree with the sentiment but I believe your missing the point.So it's bad for a Christian, okay but it's okay if your Muslim though? That's the problem I have with what Bernie did, because just switch out Christian and replace with Muslim and Bernie would be okay because that's no longer being islamiphobia. If so, that's some serious double standard and that's what I have a problem with. 2 religions with very extremely similar ideology and practices, but Islam is better because of islamiphobia? He's putting one higher than the other when BOTH Christianity and Islam should get the same treatment, which is practice whatever the hell you want to at home and outside of work/govt weither Christian or Muslim but at govt/work leave those beliefs at the door or at home. I am making a statement, not defending Sanders. Of course it's the same for Islam

You got burned once and didn't learn your lesson, Bruce. You would be as surprised as when Trump got elected. Now that's something strictly from a fairy tail book. As you said yourself there are religious people in every country (whatever the religion might be) and they elect people from among them. So there is no way you can separate religion from politics.You can separate church and state, church being the structural religion institutions, but not the religion itself. Unless you want to ban all religious people and only elect atheists, but that would be a totalitarian state. Heureka, we have an actual debate Indeed making individuals atheist wouldn't work or would be justifiable. What would work and is justifiable would be to say prohibit religion as a reason for political action. Imagine please, we change the way our parliaments work in one fundamtel way: the question is now "who is against this". And whoever is against something would have to prove the validity of his veto. Maybe this could even help a bit with corruption (though I doubt it), but it would certainly lift political debate to new heights, since the necessity of justification would force politicians and perhaps even the media to handle things less... emotionally

I agree with the sentiment but I believe your missing the point.So it's bad for a Christian, okay but it's okay if your Muslim though? That's the problem I have with what Bernie did, because just switch out Christian and replace with Muslim and Bernie would be okay because that's no longer being islamiphobia. If so, that's some serious double standard and that's what I have a problem with. 2 religions with very extremely similar ideology and practices, but Islam is better because of islamiphobia? He's putting one higher than the other when BOTH Christianity and Islam should get the same treatment, which is practice whatever the hell you want to at home and outside of work/govt weither Christian or Muslim but at govt/work leave those beliefs at the door or at home. The other hostile religion is Islam.

It's important because Mr.As-a-Christian brings strong beliefs and values based on nothing but a book that might as well have the worth equivalent of fairytale. Imagine someone coming into office saying "I believe in the Lord of Light, thus, I find that all criminals sentenced to death should be burned, so that their souls may be purified." Indeed, a very odd argument to put up, no? I don't think this man would be elected. Now the only reason as to why hard core Christians are elected is that there are many Christians in America. But that doesn't make anything better... Politics and religion are to be strictly separated, especially if the religion in question has, historically speaking, been one of probably the two most hostile religions.

Be rational please

Money, mostly. But I don't think that's any different for you. On a more serious note, Germans are known to be notoriously atttached to one particular government they like. We had many chancellors for 2, 3 terms in a row. German voters are risk averse and like to stay with one person, I think one whole reelection campaign was once won with the slogan "no experiments"

Huh, I just checked, and no term limit for the German chancellors!Yeah, pffffttt, why would we need that. We never had any problem with particularly power ambitious chancellors, I assure you.

Mostly agreement. To blame Brexit solely on Merkel is a bit harsh though. But her inability to find a European solution for the refugee crisis and her disastrous policies concerning Greece indeed weigh heavy. Although specifically concerning Brexit, I'd say there are more causes to it.

It's meant to make fun of the fact that I posted an anti Christian meme before that. I am the unschooled bourgeois kid with memes, for the sake of the joke. No? Ok. Sorry. I'm German.

Of course, the irony of this is that it itself is made through a meme generator.The idea was to use a meme that made fun of the fact that I used the previous meme

Cut the crap and give me the name already or back off your false statement.You heard him! PROVE THAT HE IS ****ING HILARIOUS OR SHUT UP!!!

Ok, now let's get back to your original claim: So let's see boys and girls:1. Mr. Rosbjerg claims that current government claimed a. 2. Mr. Rosbjerg as proof posts a citation from a book written by US Ambassador who is not even polish but american (at least polish decendant but whatever) and has no ties to polish government whatsoever. 3. Mr. Rosbjerg questions what I link to and what I quote. First of all I don't HAVE to do anything. Second invasion of Jerusalem? Tip of the iceberg. Go back to reading history books lad.Indeed, you don't HAVE to do anything. You just SHOULD try to actually answer. The fact that I made an incomplete statement in a quickly typed response does not change the main point. If you refuse to answer to that, it's a double standard at least... "it's okay for me but not for others". Pointing out small mistakes that don't change the nature of the claim itself as an attempt to debunk the claim is something you do often. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

Sharp_one, if you justify the crusades with Muslim invasions of Jerusalem; you also have to justify modern terrorism with western intervention in the ME. Logica vult. Are you sure you want to go there?

not like all of this s already law in EU... but then you have multicultural and humanist policies and politics pushing against it. I am pretty sure we have much more separated christian church from state than US pretends on where you are. Gays can't marry around here, and in France you can't show religious symbols in any public building including schools (which I find a great idea). I'm also not sure how it is in Eastern Europe.

deus vult ave maria? God wants greet Maria? What is this supposed to tell me, that polish people can't speak Latin?

Again... Volo was right. Don't bother with sources because they will always attack the sites. Even now you attack the link from reddit regardless of the fact it just contains dozens of links to other sites on the sole basis it's a reddit link. Complete waste of time when you only read sources that support your biased POV and disregard any source that tries to look at issue even slightly different. P.S. Still waiting on backing your claims about Polish government. And you take an completely unbiased look? Gimme a break. You cherry picked one small piece of his argument and tried to discredit it, somehow thinking that also discredits everything else he said. Would you kindly please spend your time developing an actual response rather than senselessly google for headlines that seem to support your simplistic view. I find it amusing and terrifying at the same time what you demand. Weren't you the one asking to deport the families of Islamist for three generations? You are an idiot if you belive that any of this will actually help you. "The refugees are funded with our money" what on Earth makes you belive that you would see only a fraction of that money of the refugees weren't funded? Were your schools richer before the refugees came? Was public transport better before the refugees came? Was the police better before the refugees came? Was just one sort of state funded service underfunded because of the refugees? "But the Muslims want to destroy our way of living, they want to introduce sharia law, they want to build a worldwide caliphate" let me tell you a tale, my paranoid friend. Right next to Frankfurt, barley a walk away, is the town of Offendbach. In the past, Offenbach had severe problems with crime, especially drug crime, which caused housing prices to drop, which in turn caused an overload of immigrants in the past decade or so, especially from Northern Africa and the Middle East, to move there. By now, 60% of all people living there are immigrants. Is Offenbach a Muslim hell full of rape and public stonings composed of no go zones? No, Offenbach in fact has turn into a thriving city, it has recovered from drug crime to a very large degree. Living quality has greatly increased in the past years. The immigrants are provided with individual councling, specific counsellors are assigned to them which allows for bonding. The economic situation is also on the up, for example an Turkish family founded one of the by now biggest bakeries in the region (so big they are by now for example the suppliers of the entire Frankfurt airport). What about Sharia law? The mayor is Horst Schneider, member of the SPD, declared secularists. The candidate with the second most votes was of the CDU, the Christian party. For a town composed of 60% immigrants from the Muslim world that sounds pretty un-sharialy, no? I hear people from your camp often say "western society is committing suicide". Yes. Yes we are. We ourselves are killing everything we stand for if we allow the return of a society segregated by race, religion, nationality or political beliefs. I pity you. You are standing there, fighting shadows, and you don't see the swords you drive into your own stomach. And who will be there for your funeral, if everyone is busy dying of their own wounds? The saddest part is that you and the Islamists are so similar at heart. There simply is no difference between Deus Vult and Allahu Akbar.

Just some quote. First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. Besides, we have to acknowledge that things in muslim countries were not always the way they are now. Though I dislike it's style, this presentation should showcase it:

Right now few things are certain. There has been a bus attack at the London Bridge and a stabbing in Borough market

It's really funny how you seem to take this as if i you actually mattered. HA! Good Fun! P.S.: you can combine mom jokes and intellectual jokes easily through Freud. Perhaps you don't know his theories, but you may actually have done experience with the essence of it.

Pretty sure North Korea doesn't particularly like the EU either

Technically he united EU leaders to think that USA is hostile state That's great. Anyone that is hostile towards the IV Reich is a good guy. Melenchon for example?

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