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Take a look at what I mention in post 5, it sounds like you are also using IE Mod v4.30. See if it helps you as well. https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/80382-aloths-grimoire-broken/

I hat this happen once with a Fighter I have, but I deleted that particular savegame ... loaded the quick save made by IE Mod before I entered the Endless Paths and then Aloths Grimoire was okay again. ( So Far. ) Then this weekend I also started a Melee Rogue ... right smack in Gilded Vale Aloth got the Grimoire problem as well. When I noticed this I removed the dll file from IE Mod version 4.30. After that I restarted the game and the Grimoire problem was gone for me. I tried removing and adding the 4.30 a few times, and every time it was present then Aloth would get the Grimoire problem. I then tried to see if adding the dll file from IE Mod version 4.29 hat the same results ... but since I started using IE Mod v4.29 ( Since Yesterday. ) again instead of v4.30 I have not gotten the Grimoir problem. ( So far. ) Mind you this small ... "Test" of mine might just be a case of pure luck on my part. But when I loaded your savegame with IE Mod v4.29 I could open Aloths Grimoire with out getting the bug several times, so you could try to download version 4.29 as well and see if it helps?

I personally think so now, the +5 to all defences definitely helps at times. But if you have two frontline tanks for instance then the rest are in the back attacking from range with weapons and spells. ( Well in my game at least. ) At those moments I personally would not mind to use Ilfan Byrngar's Solace or Scâth Gwannek instead of Outworn Buckler. Even though I play on steam ... I agree, it would be a whole lot more fair to GoG players if they would get the patches at the same time. ( If that is possible, then they should try to do that. )

Well it still applies to companions in my game, but that is okay, I only switch to a one handed weapon and the Outworn Buckler if I need some more defence. As for the Outworn Buckler being the more obvious choice ... maybe ... for a Paladin. But that buckler can only be use by a Paladin so if some one does not have a Paladin the shield is useless. Besides Little Saviour has the same Herald and more and can be used by any one. Also Ilfan Byrngar's Solace and Scâth Gwannek are good Medium Shields. ( Although they do not have Herald. ) As for GoG versus Steam ... I have no idea actually, my understanding is that the GoG version gets the latest patches a few day later? So whether GoG players have the latest patch and Hotfix ... I am not sure?

I do, IE Mod ... I hat two more but they where replaced again by the files from patch 1.06. At least I think they are, because they no longer work. Even if they would still be working I would not know whether a mod that influences Firearms and the other one the Druid Spiritshift could cause this to happen to a very specific Paladin Talent? And it works with my savegame one your computer? EDIT: Torm51 thank you so much for tipping me of on mods. it turned out that one particular setting in IE Mod caused my problem with Faith and Conviction. Turns out that ( At least for me. ) when I have the "Remove combat only" function active then Faith and Conviction does not work for me. I checked the IE Mod description of that function in the options menu, and the IE Mod team warns it can cause bugs, so I can not blame them for it. So from now on that function stays of. Now that looks good.

Hopefully we will get an answer from the Developers.

No I do not believe it is not overpowered as well, It is just that I was surprised to see it do what it does, so I asked whether it was by design. I guess we will just have to wait and see what other developers will let us know about Outworn Buckler.

Thank you Torm51.

Well I just noticed that Outworn Buckler did that and asked if it was by design or not? And since celliot entered it in the developers database, I assume that it is a bug? ( I guess that is up to the development team to decide. )

THe Developement is already aware of the buckler. https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/80082-is-this-a-bug-or-not/ Just scroll down a bit.

Thank you so much celliott, hopefully you can see what causes the problem I have with Faith and Conviction.

Still looking for an answer to the Faith and Conviction problem with my Paladin. I did send a PM to a Developer about two days ago and asked if some one of their team could drop by and see if they can help some how. So far none have dropped by ... now I realize that they have more to do to say the least, but I will not give up on my Paladin.

Still hoping for a solution for the problem I have with Faith and Conviction.

It is very annoying I agree, but to stop playing the game till it gets fixed is a bit harsh. Still to each their own I guess. am personally such a compulsive pauser (pauser?) that this bug is, for the most part, a non factor. that being said, for people who prefer auto-pilot features, we could see how their party npcs being transformed into ornamental topiary during combat might be discouraging enough to halt play. HA! Good Fun! Well in most fights you have to place your team members and have them do what you want and need. Yeah until OE fixes the auto attack ( Once and forever. ) it requires more management. It is very annoying as I mentioned, but not to a degree to stop playing, but as I mentioned ... to each their own.

It is very annoying I agree, but to stop playing the game till it gets fixed is a bit harsh. Still to each their own I guess.

Okay I wanted to see if one of the items I have equipped on my Paladin hat anything to do with the drop in accuracy that I mentioned in a previous post. 1 ) I went back to Cad Nua ( No particular reason, I just did. ) and went in the chapel. 2 ) I removed all equipped items from my Paladin and then saved the game. 3 ) Then I quit to the main menu, and reload that test savegame. 4 ) I equipped one item and then saved again. 5 ) Again i quit to the main menu and then reloaded the test savegame. 6 ) Then I activated Zealous Focus ... checked it was listed in the active effects list. 7 ) After that I left to Chapel and once outside I checked to see whether the accuracy was still the same as it was inside. 8 ) If it was I went back inside ... deactivated Zealous Focus ... equipped a second item ... saved the game. I kept doing that until I found two things of which I do not know if they are intended or not, but I find them odd enough to mention here. * The first thing I noticed was that when I equipped the Outworn Buckler, my Paladins defences where raised by +5 as it should ... BUT all companions also hat their defences raised by +5? Is this by design or not? * The second thing I noticed and the reason for my Paladins accuracy dropping when switching area's. When I equipped the "Tiny Animat" pet, my Paladins accuracy some how got raised from 66 to 71. And then if I went outside, the +5 from that pet where gone. So why have a pet give extra accuracy to the player, if it disappears any way when switching area's? I tried this also with the Piglet ... Black and White cat and that tiny white wurm, they all did the same thing. After that I hoped that some how the thing with the pets in my game where also responsible for the problem I have with Faith and Conviction ... but unfortunately that is not the case. So I solved the accuracy problem, but not the problem with Faith and Conviction.

duno. there were any number o' odd aura bugs, but have never heard of zealous focus inhibiting faith & convictions. IF zealous focus were the problem, simple disabling might not be enough to clear the problem. http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/76862-i-found-a-new-way-to-fix-the-rogues-reckless-assault-stacking-bug/?p=1651130 link contains a fix that works for many modal problems, but your issue appears different as it ain't stacking related, yes? HA! Good Fun! Well I am not sure if it is the cause, it is just that ZF was one of two icons that where active on my Paladin and the rest of the group? I will try and see what happens when I use the method you linked to.

LoL third person. But I get it, I will try tomorrow if deactivating Zealous Focus after combat will make a difference. And I am also on steam ( Under Windows 8.1 ) with the 1.06 patch.

Doh I hat uploaded a savegame to my Mediafire account yesterday, and then I forget to place it here. http://www.mediafire.com/download/rqfug84i6t00fae/Paladin+Firja+Savegame.7z My Paladins portrait is part of this package on the Nexus. Godlike Portraits tested this jic. took a random save with a paladin pc. deflection were 109 before battle. faith and convictions boosted to 120 at start of battle. is working okie dokie for us with a zealous focus tank. HA! Good Fun! Well now I do not know whether to thank you or not ... on one side you proved that is not a bug so that should please OE. On the other side your test shows that their is/might be something wrong with my Paladin. I just hope it is nothing serious and that I can safely finish the game with my Paladin. ( Despite what I mention in this thread. )

No one further?

I just tried to pick a fight and see if Faith and Conviction got added once combat started ... but unfortunately it did not get added to my Paladins defences nor did it show up under active effects during that time?

Darn ... and last evening I also noticed that the +6 from Zealous Focus quit often seems to get removed from my Paladins accuracy? This seems to happen many times when I go from one area to another. I noticed this the first time yesterday when I went from inside the "Path of the six" ( I think that is how it is called. ) to the outside area Heartsong? Although the accuracy of my Paladin drops from 77 to 72, so I am not 100% certain it is Zealous Focus ... especially since the icon from Zealous Focus still shows next to the portraits of the entire party. But it is the only reason I can think of, because when I exit to the main menu and then reload the savegame then once Zealous Focus activates ... my Paladins Accuracy is back to 77? ( Until I go to another area. )

Okay a while ago I started playing a Paladin and at first I thought I would not like it, but it turned out I did. ( It is my first Character to get this far in the game. ) At first I did not pay attention to Faith of Conviction ( How it works. ) because I thought that it got added to the defences silently. With that I mean I thought that even though it did not show on the defences it was still added. After the 1.06 patch got live my Paladins Defences suddenly got raised by amounts that seemed to look like those from Faith and Conviction. Just after patch 1.06 was installed. And it stayed like that until I reached level 10, then the defences suddenly showed up like this? ( As if FaC was gone? ) Now after reaching level 10? Now at the time of both screenshots above, the only icons that showed next to my Paladin and the rest of the party where those of Zealous Focus and the one for Dragons Lair resting bonus, and I was not in combat? I have no explanation of what causes this, and I have no idea whether it is a bug or not? Just in case some one wants to know the active effects on my Paladin ... Active effects. ( The same on level 9 and 10. ) The above seems odd to me, so hence my question.

I really hope they will do this indeed.

Yeah you can find Kurren in the Hadret House. When you get in, just get to the room in the back, he will be standing by a large table on the left side.