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Two posts that take alan's bait and make a fool of themselves One is excused since it's roshan the other is excused for hungarian english. Keep 'em coming, people. The even funny counterpart to alan's story, of course, is that half the games I buy, I need to download pirated versions so that it would *work*. Like those budget packages that I got MTW2 with.

Interestingly enough, the comparison site reports Radeon 9600 Pro to have a 400 core clock and 300 memory clock. I know mine actualy performs at 400/200. But Geforce 6800GT seems to be 350/500. benchmarks and all other settings has GeForce 6800GT jump wayyy over the Radeon though. What functions do these core/memory clocks perform, and why is it that a much older & better 6800GT has a lower core clock speed? They really just need to make a linear scale of graphics cards.

Simple simple explanation: NWN1 looked more realistic, but it fudged the rules to do so. NWN2 has the "real" cleave, but sacrifices the animations to do so. I found after playing a while that it doesnt really matter to me either way. I'm not such a stickler for rules and I wouldn't have minded cleave taking an extra 0.5 seconds (more realistic to me, anyway. Cleave should be an instant action in TB, but in RT it shouldn't be.), but purple swipes isnt too bad.

It seems that with nwn2, the more you spend the more you get shafted.

This is apparently what the card in question used to be, a year ago. http://www.cstuff.co.nz/product.pasp?categ...3&productid=117

See, that's odd. I've tried with 1.00, 1.01 and 1.02 now, and in all instances it attempts to refer to mscorlib.resources before crashing. I too have a mscorlib.dll, and this doesn't seem to help. Gonna try to disguise that .dll as the mscorlib.resources.exe, but somehow I doubt it'll work. edit: nope, such a disguise shows 'success' in toolset trying to do stuff with the .exe, but it still crashes at the same juncture. :crazy: Gogo obsidian!

Unselect Full Screen in the in-game settings. Or, go Full Screen = 0 or whatever in nwn.ini in My Documents/Neverwinter Nights. I havent tried the setting myself, but it should work if it's there. edit: oh, and 1.02 appeared to add widescreen resolutions to the game. No?

Ammon Jerro *should* have it. If not, you're screwed.

Yeah. I wouldn't even consider a card upgrade if I didnt see it for such a cheap price. ~$80US is like.. 4-5 hours of part time work, so why not? I won't make a new rig for a while.

Wistrik: yeah, but I wanted to show off the UI mods. That particular area would be 15-20fps. Indoors, it would be 5-10. ; I only leave normal mapping & high textures on because there is no fps change. Not that normal mapping seems to DO anything. Kouraboros is awesome.

Well, I suppose Chris could go pay Interplay twenty bucks for them.

And if that doesnt work, there will have to be a 3rd party .exe where you choose "Normal 2DAs or X Mod 2DAs" upon loading, a bit like Elder Scrolls plugins. Not impossible, but cumbersome. I dont see any reason that NWN1 way wouldnt work, though.

Yeah, subtle integration of Dak'kon into lore. I liked it.

Sorry Wistrik, I didnt read "indoors" in there. I'm used to having no shadows, and even without that your settings are a bit higher than what I hve now. If I could get 20 indoors and shooting down with lots of objects I would actually be happy - but it's not quite the performance jump I would expect from such an upgrade. I have a SATA hard drive, by the way, but it's only 160gb and nearly full.

Also, obviously, firmware upgrades. I have the Toolset crashing problem like many other people do on the bioboards; the suggested fixes so far are different display drivers, .net framework reinstall, directx reinstall, and some .dll switchings. Nothing works. Using Process Monitor I discovered that the last series of actions the toolsetlauncher.exe takes before initiating crash/debug processes are that it looks for something called mscorlib.resources.exe, or something in a mscorlib.resources folder. It sounds to mel ike a .net framework file (it access mscorwks fine); but such a file or folder is not present anywhere on my computer, even after installing.net framework 2 and its SDK. To Oerwinde and any others that have the toolset working; are you able to locate such a file anywhere, specifically in C:/Windows/Microsoft.net/framework/v2.0....? I would also be very interested in seeing a process monitor (available here) log of the toolset opening for someone that CAN run it, but that might be too much of a bother. Thanks.

Actually, apart from the mobo and sound, that's pretty much exactly the same, except for the video card. Perhaps that means myself upgrading to 6800GT wouldn't do much, implying that the CPU is a bigger bottleneck than I had thought? Wistrik, how different are your indoor and outdoor FPS? If you have a fairly isometric view indoors, is it over 15? Do the presence of torches and otherl ights affect it significantly? You use low shadows, would using none improve your performance significantly? From your post it seems like there isnt so much difference between 6800GT and radeon 9600 Pro. Odd, since 6800GT is supposed to be pretty damn good in comparison. CPU? :crazy:

Your soldiers get some buffs. Alliances give you better allies to fight with. etc.

Go go radeon 9600 (w00t)

Yep. The key to buidling your keep is talk to everyone and looka round for ore mines as you progress along the game. Meaning an attention to detail helps you, just like in the old days (as opposed to TIP: HOW ABOUT GETTING SOME ORE MINERS?). I had talked to Pentin in OOW before when I first visited, as well as Calindra in Port Llast, all the way back in Act 1, and remembered that they wanted somewhere to set up their ore shop.

And it can make a real difference. Unfinished Business was pretty cool, and it looks like TSL Restoration Project, which is now in beta, could have a very big impact.

You don't lcick on them, you have to walk into them. It doesnt work half the time because the trigger area is extremely small. Make sure you just keep walking over it from all sorts of angles until you get the yellow message on the chatbox. There are veins all over the place; the orc clans near Old Owl Well, the Ironfist stronghold when you first clear it out, Ember well, Duskwood-Ember goblin/spider caves, Fire Giant mountain, Dragon's lair, etc.

RIght now there is a bid for a 6800GT AGP at $66 minimum, and $122 to "buy straight away", which I am seriously considering if anyone else bids for it. I thought it would be a good buy for 1-2 years. And I thought the CPU would be the next bottleneck, but I dont plan on replacing that for 1-2 years, when I'd trash & just rebuild, with PCI and all those new-fangled shinies. I just want to play things like NWN2, Gothic 3, MTW2 and Spore at 15+FPS. Not too ambitious, I think. By "playable", what fps do you mean? I am happy if I get a consistent 15+ indoors, because at 15 I myself dont mind, because there's no cursor lag, response lag (not really) and it generally doesnt feel too bad in an rpg. And I would be very happy with those settings. At any less, I cant even click on containers or characters while my character is moving, and if theres a large battle INDOORS, what is a 20 minute battle takes me an hour. Could you post your exact build and the fps you get with those settings? Would be much appreciated.

Lizardmen, Dwarves, yes. You need to take Khelgar there, and you will meet some Ironfist dwarves right at the start of the area.

Current System: Mobo - Abit N7F-S Socket A Motherboard, nvidia chipset (nforce 2 ultra), AGP CPU - AMD Athlon XP 2600+, Barton Core clocked at 1918mhz, FSB 166, Bus Speed 333 Vidcard - ATI Radeon 9600 Pro AGP 256mb Memory - 2x512 Hynix, 1x512 Corsair = 1.5gb, PC3200, 200mhz frequency Problem: Sub-30, or even sub-20 ping on most games from this year or even last year, cant even think about shaders/shadows, HDR, water, dynamic lights or AA. I don't think RAM is the bottleneck here, I just increased from 1gb to 1.5gb and it has no difference in loading, fps, whatever. I just alt-tab a bit better. NWN2 is especially an issue; I turn shadows off, point light off, water off, 2 lights per object, and I get 15-20fps in outdoors (which I find acceptable), but 5-10 indoors, and if there are a lot of lights (i.e. just a portal, or the Keep main room with the chandeliers) then it becomes catastrophic. Like, 3-4fps. Texture settings and others don't seem to matter at all. I'm pretty sure it's the shadows and dynamic lighting that hurt me, and I want to be able to play NWN2 at +15fps as I plan to use the toolset and testing my creations will be a beach at those fps. I am thinking of getting the Nvidia Geforce 6800GT 256mb. It benchmarks at 30fps in Half-Life 2 AA4/AF8 1600x1200, and I only play in 1024x768 (and dont play shooters so dont need higher than 30). Questions: -> Is there another card that I could be getting thats better value? I want to spend as little money as possible. -> I am looking at one in new zealand's equivalent of ebay, which is a year old. I plan to use this card for 1-2 more years. How much does it matter that it's already a year old? -> Will the CPU become a bottleneck and prevent me from enjoying the card?