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"They compete in order to even get on TV" The stars of Days of Our Lives, Law and Order, and The Practice do that as well. "I still think the athleticism shouldn't be questioned." Who is disputing that? I'm certainly not. Don't forget I like wrestling, and there's no doubt they're athletic. Consideirng they cna do 360s, and can jump off the top rope with someone's head between their legs (lol) and not kill each other says a lot.

That's a month in SP's world so he's still correct.

"So as a WHOLE you are correct" Game over. As for being a jerk, I'm going to act even more chidlish than normal; but YOU started with your very first post diretced at me in this thread when your lame 'you know nothing about programming' (even though you said I was right), the accusations of fanboyism when it is you who is acting like a fanboy (in your words you complain about Obsidian once or twice on topics than move on yet you lamely whine repetively about things you dislkike about BIO), the 'ol 'someone who owns you comment' you made. Sorry; but youa re the last perosn to whine about another being a jerk in this thread. And, finally: "So as a WHOLE you are correct" Game over.

No. Just horrible typist. :D Well, I am evil; but not because of that. <>

"So as a WHOLE you are correct" Game over. FDrom now on, anytime you bring up the whole graphics/engine thing; that's what I'm gonna quote. Youa dmitted I was correct. Not much more to be said on that dead issue. "I say it once or twice, then move on. They heard what I had to say, repeating it like a broken record is futile and a waste of time after that." Which proves my point. You are an Obsidian fnaboy. At least i'm consistent in how I treta different companies. Afterall, youa re still whining about NWN1 3 years after its release yet you stop complaining abot small aspects of Obsidian afetr once or twice. Hah. Thanks for that laugh. " I suppose nwn1 looks good, if you have a TNT2 card and cant play any modern games. Bloodlines/HL2, Unreal 2004, BfME and even Civ4 look vastly better." Outside of BL, those other games are plain old fashion crap. "You felt the NWN1 OC was up their with dante writing wise. And certainly you are entitled to. But you are in the vast minority and you should accept that by now its not as if my opinion is not the general concensus. If you want to go against the grain on that opinion feel free. But dont act all offended when you encounter such as if it the first time you heard such. Even Bioware finally admited the OC was lacking. Took them 2 yrs to finally have the balls to do so, but thats another topic." Obsidian and Troika fanboys are not genral censusus. And, don't make things up. I never said the OC was up to 'dante writing'. Why do people conviently ignore that i rated the OC around 75%? WOWSERS! Don't think becuase you got fellow fnaboys to agree with you that is somehow fact. And, BIO has said many of thier games is alkcing. Afterall, every devloper eveyrwher ehas said they would like to improve their games so that proves NOTHING. And, to finish off with the only quote that matters: "So as a WHOLE you are correct" Game over. Ok V, change that tampon as its apparently that time of the month for you. P.S. "Ok V, change that tampon as its apparently that time of the month for you." I'm having a ball. You are the one with your panties in a twist. Coming storming into a thread about an issue that Mr. Sawyer and I have settled. Then saying i was RIGHT yet still crying about my correctness. Face it, youa re an Obsidian fnaboy. How long til you bash the 3 year old OC and BIo again while ignore the stuff that Obsidian is doing wrong with NWN2? Hahaha. Yet you ahve the gall to claim you aren't an Obsidian fanboy. P.S. One more time people. I believe that NWN2 will be better than NWN1. then again, there is no exuse for it not to be since it is a sequel. And, remember, this is all that's important in this thread: "So as a WHOLE you are correct" Game over.

Yeah; but he couple is competing with other couples. That doens't happen in wrestling.

"By wrestling I assume your refering to the American variety rather than wrestling in general. I dont think you could consider anything that scripted to be a sport." Yes, Professional Wrestling not Amatuer/Olympic Wrestling. Of course the latter is actually a sport. "Sure wrestling can be a sport in the same way as ice skating. A panel of judges could give scores indicating how much they liked the performance." Nope. Because unlike Figure Skating, a wrestler is reliant on his opponent to make him look good. Wrestler A can do his job; but if Wrestler B fails; they'll both look bad most likely. That's why it's not a sport. The wrestlers are working together not against eahc other even (and espicially) iof they are beating each other up. There's a reaosn why over half the program is dedicated to the wrestlers talking and interatcing outside of the ring.

1. That wouldn't mean I was dissing them. 2. I meant to say engine. LOL Obsidian fnaboys should hold their chin up. Obsdiian will not break apart if not everyone on their baords is kisisng their butt even thoguh I very much do like Obsidian. I wouldn't be watsing time on their baords if I didn't. P.S. Dissing is when saying something sucks; not that uses the same thing. Afterall, if I were to say KOTOR2 uses the same engine as KOTOR1 that isn't dissing either. Saying something is the same as soemthing else isn't dissing. Now, if I were to say NWN2 graphics looked MW that could be cosnidered a diss as everyoen know I hate MWMgraphics. But, everyone here also knows I like NWN graphics so if I were to say NWN2 graphics were the same it shouldn't eb considered a diss as its a positive comparison. Capiche?

Wrestling is not a sport. It's a male soap opera that uses physicality to help gets it story across. Do you consider what stuntment do a sport? I hope not. That's exactly what wrestlers do (but, ore dangerous as they do it for longer amounts of time). Everything a wrestler does is pre planned (whether it be the day before ora few minutes before hand). "Designated hitting in Baseball" What a siully statement. Of cours,e it isn't a sport. It';s a position in a sport. It surely is a physical activity that actually involves competition. "Golf Bowling" Both sports. You seem to eb confusing hard physicla activity = sport while this simply isn't the case. Sex is not a sport... unless you have some sort of tournament. Heheh.

"Oh, and the Leafs win against Rangers!! Woowoo! " Not surprising. The Rangers suck. Just wiat. They will miss the play-off. As for Avery, I think it's dumb. Getting fined for recieiving a penalty is stupid. The NHL should just fine any player who gets a penalty - be it 'diving', tripping, elbowing, charging, or whatever. I think the whole idea of 'diving' being a penalty is just plain stupid. I say let the player dive, and while he's diving the other team will have a 5 on 4 skaing down the ice. Hahahah.

"So as a WHOLE you are correct" Game over. I think it's funny that on one hand you caliom I know nothing about programming then on the next you say I am correct. Seems to me that I know more that what you give me credit for. And, if I am correct than it seems odd for you to claim Mr. Sawyer "owned" me. "Personally I think V has a love affair with Bioware and cant bear the fact someone else can do a better job then them with their own product. " 1. Says the one who has a love affair going with Obsidian. I can point to a lot of places where I stated many negative things about BIO. People would be hard pressed to find much negative from you about Obsidian. 2. NWN2 isn't BIO's product. 3. How is saying that NWN2 is using the same engine somehow dissing Obsidian? 4. I'm on record stating that i believe that NWN2 will be better than NWN1. Seems to me you don't know what you are talking about. 5. Then again, I figured before its release that KOTOR2 would be better than KOTOR1 and I was proven wrong. 6. Obsidian should do better than BIO since thye often work on BIO scraps, and it makes things MUCH easier when taking someone else's work and adding to it. 7. You seem to ignore the fact that my post in this thread was never NWN1 graphis is better than NWN2 graphics. On the contrary, I have stated many times that NWN2 looks better than NWN1. Seems to me that sure doens't sound like someone who can't handle someone else's work being 'better' than BIO. yOU BETTER LEARN TO READ. "and still shipped a lifeless OC and dated graphics engine." Your opinion which is tainyted since you are obvious an Obsidian fanboy. The OC, while not the best game ever, was better than 99% of games. Surely beats IWD, TOEE, SOU, and in many ways even KOTOR1 &2 which were both focused on the actual game. The 'dated' graphics engine is still damn good. It sure beats the graphics of overrated brown poo like MW. And, finally, let's quote you one more time for emphasis: "So as a WHOLE you are correct" Game over.

OFF TOPIC! OFF TOPIC! OFF TOPIC! "Wrestling is a sport first and acting second. Most of those guys are extremely athletic, and they use it out in the ring to entertain. It's not like they get jobs based on thier acting skills. And how many actors retire due to injuries? Most wrestlers do. Hulk Hogan has doesn't have fake hips and knees because he was pretending to wrestle." Wrestling is not asport. Wrestlers may be athletes; but wrestling is not a sport. A sport is competetive. Period. Hulk Hogan doesn't beat Ric Flair because he was better in the match. Ric Flair doens't beat Hulk hogan because he was better in the match. They win because it was SCRIPTED. This means is wrestling is not a sport. Period. It's a male soap opera. Not competition. Just admit it. "It's not like they get jobs based on thier acting skills." It sure helps. That's for sure. I guarnatee a wrestler who can act is more likely to be hired by the WWF than one who can't if all other things are equal. ON TOPIC! ON TOPIC! ON TOPIC! Federov may not be in his prime; but he can still be a solid player. Then again, both of the teams involve plainly suck so this trade will chnage nothing.

Thread Update #2: I'm still playing, and modding NWN.

Kalfear wins.

"Yeah, well, tough luck. You like wrestling. I'm sorry the NHL doesn't have any chairs to throw on the ice or fake blood to drool on yourself, but that's just the way it is." That's funny. It's even more hilarious if you recall that I'm a big proponent of taking fighting completely out of hockey. I think fighting has no part in hockey nor do I find it entertaining to watch real life peopel fighting. Wrestling is not real. It's a tv show like Law and Order or the Sopranos. Wrestler are actors. Actors who do their own stunts; but actors nontheless. To compare my enjoyment of wrestling which involves FAKE violence with fighting in hockey which is real violence doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And, I don't like wrestling because of the silly chair throwing or the fake (and even real) blood. I like it because of the characters, stories (even if they are over the top and silly much of the time) which is the same reason why I like playing RPGs like PST (which is also over the top, hahahahahah!!!) Game over.

"Just srpang to mind while thinking D&D... Anybody seen this?" Hehe. My fans love me, they really love me!

In a sad bit of news, i have to admit I was wrong. Seems scoring is up. Seems liek the new rules have helped in that regard. In some even sadder news, NHL this year is friggin' boring. I can no longer watch entire games. It has fallen into the MLB and NBA trap. Entertaining when something importnat is happening or late in game; otherwise it puts me to sleep. When I cna't even more overly excited that my Rangers are doing better than expected there is something wrong with the game. YAY! The teams score an extra goal per game. Big deal when it's a boring one. All this means that what once an awesome accomplismnet - averaging a PPG - means nothing now. Congrats, NHGL. Youa ccomplished your goal of more goals. Now make the game as exciting as before. It's sad that I was more xcited in the 7 seven seasons the Rangers missed the play-offs then I am right now. As an example, i used to be able to watch Hockey Night in Canada even though I'm not a big fan of the Leafs; now I can only watch my rnagers for 30 minutes at a time. Liek tonight. I'll probably turn on the Leafs-Rangers game once and awhile to check up on it. It used to be, I'd watch all 3 or so hours of. Meh.

"{and then the source you provided disproved your own claim." Don't be surprised, K. This happens all the time with Yrkoon's 'soruces'. He uses a lot of sources; but at least 25% of them usually end up opposing his claims. R00fles!

Because. They're henchmen. That's why. That's D&D terminology for a D&D game.

Henchmen are NOT hirelings. Henchmen are friends, companions,a nd allies who choose to travel with you. Expert Hirelings are hirelings who get paid because because they are epxerts in their field and can include adventurers or any NPC with an important, useful, and specially trained skill that the PC(s) might need. Again, the OC had Expert Hirelings - adventurers with specialized skills that you paid to adventure with you. SOU, and HOTU had henchmen. So did BG, PST, and FO. Don't get tricked by BIo and Obsidian's false D&D terminology. Again, henchmen are NOT 'hirelings'. Imoen was a henchmen. Err Henchwoman. Linu in the OC was a Expert Hireling. Linu in HOTU was a Henchman. Err.. Henchwoman.

"The whole henchemen system never made sense to me, " Another person brainwashed by Bioware, and Obsidian. In DnD, henchmen are supposed to be NPC friends/allies that choose to travel with you. What the joinable npcs were in the OC were Expert Hirelings. SOU, HOTU, BG series, and PST had henchmen. KOTOR, and KOTOR had (mostly) forced companions where they stole the player's option to role-play. P.S. This is NOT bashing BIO, or Obsidian other than to state the fact that they have the whole idea behind henchmen wrong and are now brainwashing players on the actual DnD definitions. <>

"Anyone wanna even GUESS how much income they have lost now by not going ahead with KotOR3 soon as K2 was a hit?" None.

$40-$50 is not bargain bin. And, why should BIO be embarassed by a game that was a finanical success? Weird.

Popular Opinion Does Not = Fact All that proves is the 9 other people are actually using their brains. Again, how can anyone think that the brown crap that passes as MW be better than anything.\ Hahahaha.

"Compared to Biowares other games it failed.May as well accept it." Really? BIO's only other non licenses non sequel project sold only 200k copies or so and it also was considered a financial success. Seems to me JE did better therefore you made up facts aagin. You lose.