Volourn

Are you saying Mitsoda isn't awesome? You hate Mitsoda!

"You're just repeating your previous argument of judging a game by its one optional - almost comic relief segment. Its biased, and therefore invalid. In fact strong personal dislike is all I get from your post, justified by repetition of one sentence, unfounded and unsupported by proof of any sort. Besides your signature would raise the eyebrows of any serious RPG player, as to the value of your judgment. Therefore what's the use of arguing?" I agree. It's hard to have a good discussion about maturity in games with someone who believes a game that has nudy pictures that add nothing to the game is one of the most mature games ever.

Good luck to Mr. Mitsoda!

"I can name these people, and I know their gaming background. If you can name yours as well and their arguments- fine" A good protion of the Codex dislikes TW. That place has tons of people arguing on both sides. And, i seriously doubt you can name 'a large aportion of a very large crowd' by name unless your definition of 'large crowd' is a dozen people. L0L "Your focus on nude cards really shows you didn't even consider the game properly. Its a lame argument - the equivalent of me saying that Jade is a stupid arcade game because it has a flying minigame." Nonsense. Not the same thing. Your claim is that TW was a mature game. It isn't. A game that rewards you with nudey cards for having sex is not mature. You cna't pretend to be mature and do stuff like that. Not to mention that the reason why it has no 'black and white' scenarios (even though it does) is largely because most of the scenarios are illogical to begin with, and the characters in question don't have any rhyme or reason. throw in some rather poor and one dimensional writing, and it simply becomes a joke. To comapre all this to trying to claim that JE is a 'stupid arcade game' because it has a flying mini game is beyond silly. Not even worth refuting even further. "Superficially different, the basic setup of the games is the same. I should have replaced stories with gameplay, and overall game design. My mistake." No. They are different. They have superifical similarities largely because they're developed by the same company. How can anyone claim that KOTOR and JE are the same espicially in terms of game design or game play? It's illogical.

"The Witcher did it right because its developers did what they wanted - political correctness be damned. Plus they were mature people working to please a mature crowd." TW was *not* mature. The game had nudey cards that added nothing to the game (outside of b00bies). How the heck is that mature? "general consensus amongst a very large crowd of veteran RPG gamers was that it was a superior product to almost everything that came out since BGII." And, there's a general concensus amongst a very large crowd of veteran RPG gamers that it was a very inferior product. *shrug* You should stick speaking for yourself instead of some invisible group that cna't even agree with each other, anyways. "But their stories are all the same from KOTOR onwards" Not true. KOTOR, JE, and ME all have different stories. "This kind of not pompous storytelling, unburdened with moral absolutes is probably only seen in fallout 1 and 2" Do not comapre TW positively to F01, or FO2. That's insulting those awesoem games with a piece of crap like TW. "Please let us not forget that the main focus in the game seems to be on the romances in the game, and the possible love (sex) acts, it will allow the player character to have within the game with different NPCs, depending on his or her choice." Simply not true.

The tattoos ar emagical I hope.. otherwise, the idea is lame.

Desslock is hyping it? Great, it's probably gonna suck. The guy is a moron.

He's also been technically suspended already for over a year. I wouldn't mind an actual suspesnion but the idea of a 'semi reinstatement' is lame. Either reinstate him or don't.

"30 minutes into Jade Empire I realized it wasn't a RPG, so I became very disappointed from thereon in." JE is an Action RPG, and it also has the best role-playing in any BIO game bar ME.

"did the worst in sales." False. "Black Whirlwind was certainly one of the weakest characters in Bioware's history. He was just that drunken badass brawler. Nothing more. No hint of some little drama or past. Nothing. Just a cursing brawler. But then again, the whole cast in Jade Empire was rather weak" Simply not true. I would take BW over that retarded Minsc. And, the entire JE cast over BG1, KOTOR1, and NWN OC, SOU, or HOTU. Only ME, and BG2 comes close to it in terms of joinables.

So dumb. he can play a couple of pre season games but can't play regular season games until week 6? Is the pathetic Commish butthurt?

"Anyway the trend to mesh characters/classes was begun with 3rd edition anyway and there seems to still be a lot of love for that particular rule set." Sure. It begun then, but it seems to have been completed or furthered at least in 4E making it worse. P.S. I'm sure it's not all bad. In fact, I pretty much believe any system can be made playable. P.S.S. btw, Roleplaying quality, imo, is 100% to do with the players/group involved not the actual rulesset. The difference in classes should effect gameplay to ahuge degree; but role-playing is basically up to the group.

How does it increase role-playing if a rogue and a wizardy basically play the same? Weird.

Then there thosepeople who have read up on it, and realized that 4E is the worst D&D edition ever barring the original (which was extremely basic). Seriously, in 4E there is no reason to choose one class over another because they are basically the same. The gameplkay of eahc one is the same. *yawn* While in earlier editions, a rogue was a rogue and a mage was a mage.

"Remember, though, we are told (ad nauseum) that choices, actions, multiple endings, re-playability (etc) are not as important anymore." Anymore? This has ALWAYS been true. It's also true that most people who *do* replay games don't do because of 'multiple choices', 'multiple endings' or those other RPG buzzwords people spout they claim enhances replayability. The #1 reason people*do* replay games is fun. Plain, and simple. P.S. Mind you, those RPG buzzwords can, if used properly *can* increase one's fun with a game.

"But are you actually complaining that a particular type of character doesn't have abilities that are more deadly than an 8-inch knife buried to the hilt between a person's ribs??" As deadly as a backstab is, it should not be the equivelant of a magical spell at the highest level of power. Unless you think something as mundane as a knife should be the equal of a power that can create soemthing out of nothing. R00fles!

"but it's different from 3.5 in that the classes are balanced" You meant bland, samey, boring, and silly. I think it's silly that a rogue is the 'equal' of a mage or a warrior. Just plain foolish. In essence, balance meaning everything is equal is a copout, illogical, and ruins the game. Not everything is created equal. Perish the thought. But, hey, a backstab should be as deadly as a high level spell. LMAO

If you use party AI in DA, you miss the point. It's not menat to be played that way. It's meant to be played with the player controlling all characters in the party. Same with the BGs, IWDs, etc.

Sounds like what the UN does!

"The girl is 16-year old Mayora Tavares, Brazil's youngest politician." So, he is an old pervert to boot? Nah, j/k. Nothing wrong with looking. As for video, it's claled being smooth. Everyone knows he was looking at the butt. The thing is to be sneaky about it, and not be obvious. <>

I don't like this idea. Bad, real bad!

"Football is football, soccer is the name the yankee imperialist pigdogs came up with." Soccer is soccer, and it is possibly the only team sport more boring to watch than baseball. In fact, it is the one case that can be sued to argue that the majority is often ver, veryw rong. Why is it so popular again? gAH. As for baseball, no doubt, it isn't the most exciting sport to watch; but it has its moments. Soccer never. Soccer never changes. P.S. Football does use a ball, and you do use your feet. Anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or ignorant.

"Runnind 10 minutes or killing the same 3 types of monsters with their ridiculous taunts/death cries (bonus points for bad voices providing bad acting - I'm looking at you, NWN 1), without anyone saying anything worth listening to." 1. NWN had way more than 3 monster types. 2. NWN's voice acting espicially the enemy taunts was awesome. 3. NWN is BIO's best game. Period.

"you can spin it how much you want Stealing a game is not the same as Downloading a game nor the same as Releasing the game them as your own (aka your plagiarism)" It's ALL stealing. The defintions give further credence to this. It's you that's spinning. If I take someone's idea and pretend it's mine, that's stealing. You download a game without permission and without paying for it (not counting officially free stuff); it's stealing. P.S. DA > BG

I replayed a game called Megamania 100+ times. It has ZERO chocies and consequences. Go figure. *shrug*