nightcleaver

I'm posting it because you're arguing it. If I hadn't posted, you wouldn't have any idea that's what I thought right now. Thank you.

I said she has yellow hair - the in-game avatar has yellow hair. The portrait has white hair. The guy in the first part of the demo doesn't have a silver lightsaber. I never said anything about HER saber. Also, her bun IS in a circle, in all the concept art it ISN'T in a circle. This isn't just a matter of engine; it's plainly obvious that it's a different style because of the pins you see in her hair and how they're placed. Proof that she COULD be the white haired woman (when she has yellow hair) isn't proof that she is, by any means, for the reasons I've said. It may seem to you I'm arguing that she isn't, but I'm not - just that nothing's been proven, and it's silly to say it is, by referring to the white-haired woman as arren Kae. It's not unreasonable to speculate or imagine that she is, but it's unreasonable to suggest she is (outside of your head) when the dev's have shot it down. It's fun to speculate on the possibility, but I'd rather avoid stupid rumor's spreading. When she has yellow hair, a face that is pretty significantly different, and no indication (I never said anything about them having to say it WASN'T blah blah character, but I did say they would announce her name if it were some sort of revealing of a character. Not PROOF, I never said it was proof, it's just common sense) whatsoever that this is the white haired woman. They released wallpaper the other day with her in it, still white hair, same style as always. Saying that, because she has a bun, that makes her the white hair woman, is nonsensical when the white haired woman has a different sort of bun bun completely - in a different style and a different color, no less. Perfectly possible, I suppose, but just as likely as having an orange twi-lek and calling THAT the white haired woman. Sure, the character could be transferred to an orange twi'lek, and there's no way to disprove it. When you start calling that orange twi'lek the white haired chick, though, you have some interesting problems happening. You don't know if it's the same character, you simply don't, so it's pointless to say it is. Oh, yeah. And Bastila went through several character changes - Vima Sunrider, some other crappy name, and finally Bastila, which used to be Juhani's name. I'm guessing these different versions of concept art having something to do with that, and not just engine limitations.

Well, the story is still in the outer rim, as I recall. The Republic fleet is secluded in the center of the galaxy, which means Coruscant as well. I don't see you going there for any reason.

It's neat the sort of interesting detail you can add with something that seems so minor :D

This suggestion is plausible to do without making two separate storylines - you go to the same places, to attack or defend or sabotage or steal, depending on what side you are.

It's just the, err, angle.... hrmm... yeah, huge mouth on 'er. I guess she wasn't designed to be looked at head-on.

go to the main site - http://lucasarts.com/games/swkotor_sithlords/ as always. There's a new character profile there.

Honestly, my original suggestion wasn't that out-of-whack, though it is original and probably extremely unlikely to happen. Her momentum was towards hitting the Sith, but he dodged very slightly out of the way and deflected her blow as seen in the wallpaper. I see he has a direct hit, but it's not impossible for her to make the most of it. I think her intent wasn't to do anything as well-thought-out with her current position as suggested by myself and other's here. However, whether she COULD do what we say or not is another thing entirely, I think. It would be fast thinking, and certainly out of the norm of what's done, but it would look interestnig and be effective - if she knew how to do it. So, I agree there's some lack of realism. I think she's lurching forward, and her momentum could be stopped or corrected relatively easily... whether she would or not, I don't know. I'm not saying she will do that, but I also imagine this fight lasting longer than that one stroke. It wouldn't be a hard stroke for her to deflect, even if she ended up on the ground or was imbalanced, but after that is thrown to the wind. So yeah, I at least see where you're coming from, but there are a few interesting ways for this part to resolve. I don't see, though you might, (and I'd like you to show me how, but it might be difficult given this context) how she couldn't stop her momentum, end up on her knees (lower than him, but in a defensible position) and roll or stand up. I'm sure there's reason for martial arts saying it's always a bad thing to lose balance, but I'm also certain you can turn any failure into a success - he has considerably little of her to aim at, and his ONLY option from here is to move away or try to ground her to the ground - in which case, it seems quite likely that he'd be wide open at the legs and lower torso area. Still, he might act faster and put her in the defensive, and she WOULD be grounded and in a not-so good position for a moment, but it wouldn't be hard (considering she's a Jedi - nothing too fancy here, and this is the kind of thing I meant about going beyond normal fencing physics. Luke did all sorts of leaping and rolling against vader, as I recall, and vader was a far more experienced duelist. You don't think that's too disturbing to your verisimillitude, is it?) to just do a roll out of the position and to her feet. so no, I think it's an accident, but I'd really like to hear your opinion on what I just suggested - if at all possible. You are, after all, something of an expert, and I value your opinion as more accurate than my own. I just want to know if I was on to something.

... right. Too name generator-ish. The in-game avatar doesn't look like I'd imagine her to look, and there's been a screenshot with a white-hooded character that I sort of took to be Atris, but I also remember thinking at the time that that should change. It looked like a baby suit or something. Her bun is shaped differently. Look at the back, how it's set in a circle of pins. Also, I see a very distinct tinge of blonde, just as I see a very distinct tinge of cyan/blue in the "silver" lightsaber of the first PC, and couldn't see it being silver (unless it's a very badly done silver). It looks like saturation is missing from the picture, but I see yellow there. Her face is sharp, but that's all the similarity I see - and it looks like her eyes are darker, rimmed, and her face is shaped EXACTLY like female PC heads from the original game, and less so like her face in any of the screenshots I've seen. Is it any wonder it took so long for people to realize? I think people are getting too jumpy, looking for hints in a way that isn't normal. When I brought up the bit about the savegame showing the PC's name, and it said Arren Kae, it was to bring to everyone's attention that this whole thing was out of place. I understand perfectly well that this isn't the real game - I've seen countless screenshots without a PC character in them for both KotOR's. Still, I'm fairly certain we're made to understand that these aren't PC's? I've never heard any announcement, seen any established comments that are about her. It's unreasonable to extrapolate that this girl is the white-haired girl, so saying she HAS to be - not that she COULD be - the white haired "chick", is totally unreasonable. I do concede, however, that the portrait in the lower right has white hair.

I think it should be implemented as well, though possibly for non-combat areas only. Like I said in another thread... it would add atmosphere, be a really cool looking feature, and it wouldn't be tedious like constantly having to manually sheathe your weapons would be. I don't know how hard it would be, though. I just think it would be really awesome... Perhaps they've already implemented it? I'd like that.

Anyone here already have a background story for their Jedi at all? I wrote a fan-fic on Revan's involvements, though I don't intend to post it here. (it is short, however)

Except that it was my idea Chair sabers... hmm... About like the idea of saber-whips, honestly. Oh... and her gaze is most definitely NOT on the ground, it's at the striking point of both their sabers. Being a Jedi, this implies she's very determined to kill him, and possibly not terribly coherent. She doesn't need to be coherent to make the best of it, either. Also, this is star wars... they wouldn't kill the all-important good-guy like that

Do I sense a feature?

You meet T3 on Peragus, and in the tutorial (optional, btw) you control him, repairing the Ebon Hawk. You also meet Atton Rand on Peragus, and you MIGHT meet Kreia, but I don't know. I just know that Atton Rand will ask you the question's to determine how the first KotOR played out by your view, which will thusly affect the rest of the game. Kreia also plays a very integral role - they've stated that she's sort of the, "mysterious mentor" type, ala Obi-Wan or Jolee. Some have speculated that Kreia is evil, secretly or otherwise, but this seems extremely odd given her role. I can't see it being done, though it would be original (if done right).

I think this was the idea when they mentioned it. Their word overrides, of course...

And you'll tell us when you aren't tied up? Or can we start pretty much right away? Oh, drakron: I more or less agree with you, but what would a mod do in this case? Probably just move the thread, since it's so exclusively off topic. Someone have a more private forum or something so we don't have more people bursting in and getting bothered by this?

Teehee... what a kidder...

I'm sure the Japanese would go ga-ga over it, once it took a foothold as a fad.

There is a nice PM system in place, if you want to message someone in private you could use it or at least you could have started a tread in the off topic area and directed people to it. Smartass. Did you see the line before it, or did you suddenly go dyslexic for the sole purpose of misunderstanding my comment? Right, back on topic. When's everyone available?

They're greedy and like stealing candy from babies. Or, at least, that's how it was shown in KotOR.

Mmm... no, this isn't exactly spam, but it's not on-topic either. I don't see what it matters to you, plus... we don't have a mailing list. Maybe we could move it to another topic, though. Or do you have a better idea? Ivan, Ender originally stated 3-6 people, and we have six, but I'll count you in for now for purposes of establishing common ground for time.

Nightcleaver - prefer weekends JohnDoe - ? Eru - any time Shin - tues fri sat sun anakin - any time Indalecio - Fri and Sat preferrable Ender - ? I'll keep track in this post.

How do you guys support yourselves? Do you get various odd jobs, or just live in debt until you can pay off your debts when the game is released? I ask because, well... Half Life 2 was in development for five years, but they had endless expansion packs, not to mention continuing sales of a very popular game - by extension probably the most important and popular multi player shooter for quite a while(Counter-Strike). Then I got to thinking, how do developer's handle this normally? Do they just not eat or sleep? Are they robots themselves?

Nightcleaver JohnDoe Eru Shin anakin Indalecio That makes exactly six people. What days are good, for those who haven't said yet?

Unless she keeps her balance in the way I suggested These are, after all, Jedi we're talking about. Anything could technically happen going from here, though the most obvious thing is that he has an easy shot at her if she's not fast enough.