Valmy

But I want to play now It has been a long road Obsidian! Looking forward to see it in all its glory tomorrow!

Huh. I have been using images from Google search for years for my character portraits in these games. It simply never occurred to me to find out who painted the image and get their permission. Sorry.

The first boss of the expansion will be based on you! Oh wait...

I am not necessarily saying the backers all playing this may not have been a good idea and generated some positive buzz a day or two before release. Just saying I am not terribly upset they did not. In my experience once a game has been out for a few days everybody generally only remembers the game and not so much how the release went, unless it was a particularly massive debacle.

I lack the information to say. I suppose there might be logistical issues there being 77K+ of us and 2K or whatever of them. But frankly that is not my business. But I am not interested in being treated the same as a member of the media. I am not a member of the media nor do I have any desire to be so.

As I said - Obsidian are now a developer I am cautious of - I have that right as a consumer and I have the right to warn/advise people of my reasons for being cautious - I'll still play the game I'm getting my $140 worth. But in the future I will always remember this moment when I think of Obsidian and I don't doubt others will too. Of course you have a right as a consumer to do what you want. Where did anybody say anything about removing your rights? I just do not get where anybody has been wronged or why we were entitled to anything in a KS beyond making sure the game we wanted to play was made. I also do not see how they have done anything wrong, they said the game was going to be out on the 26th, it is. They said the keys would go out on Monday or Tuesday and they were (barely...). They have been engaged with us here on these forums for years. They had a spirited and involved backer beta. I do not see how they have not been respectful or non-engaged. Now if you need more than that that it is always your right to do whatever. Billions of people did not contribute to this kickstarter.

Are you really going to care at all a month from now whether you started playing last week or this week? The bugs that are apparently going to be posted everywhere and in great compilations though, that would be a thing.

The only part of the operation of their KS I care about is the quality of the final product.

I guess I do not understand the beef. So far Obsidian has done everything they promised. I never got the idea that because I backed them they were required to make me some sort of priority, or at least above and beyond what they said they were going to do.

Yeah that is what I was getting at. If you are a female character who believes that military might and that way of thinking are the key to bringing order to the wasteland than maybe you could justify whatever. Pretty much the same way a male character might decide Caesar's Legion is right. But that might not be a very enjoyable character to play.

Eh it is a way of thinking that sees people as raw materials. You are either cannon fodder or a cannon fodder factory.

Well he did say enjoyable character.

Of course not. I took Latin, everybody knows it is Ternary.

Woah long night for Obsidian. Well this probably didn't go in an ideal way but at least you made good on getting them out today.

Looks like just the game so far....oh wait I can read the manual. That's nice. Almost loaded I will check for the rest of the stuff.

You backed them based on their key giving abilities? Anyway day is not yet over so I don't see how they have done anything wrong yet.

That kind of thing ALWAYS happens with physical goods. That is why I never do physical goods anymore. This time it was a dockworkers strike. Nothing anybody had any control over and they did tell us well before day 1. As for Amazon, I am still going to be playing well before they will and so will you.

Yeah we know, but preloading would be nice....... Yeah they said they would be preloading. Hopefully tonight.

My Steam is not going to unlock my game until 10:00 their time on 26/03 for whatever reason. Not sure how that applies to everybody else.

Yeah no kidding. I am avoiding those streams like the plague. I am looking forward to playing knowing nothing beyond some basic background and mechanical stuff.

Bad publicity? They announced the game will be out by the 26th and it will be, so far as I know. Deal with it dude, this has been known for months. They also said the keys would be out 'probably Monday or Tuesday' so they have one more day (PST of course) to get us our keys.

I just thought that was cool. I did not realize this was just another excuse for entitlement.

The outrages of this world are almost too traumatic to bear. But seriously, the point of Kickstarter is to get stuff you want made, it is not so you can glory in making all the creative people in the world owe you something. They said they were going to give us the game on the 26th of March. If they do not do that, well then I could understand being upset.

Pfft like anybody is going to buy yet another city building sim.