Companion sub-classes?

[AndreaColombo]

Just a simple question, but like with Fassina, does this mean that Conjurer is preselected as level 1, and then I get to choose either Conjurer, Chanter or Druid at level 2?

 

No, I think it just means she must be of the Conjurer subclass regardless of the combination (or lack thereof) you choose. I expect her to behave like any other joinable NPC, whereby you need to choose whether to single- or multi-class them when you meet them. If you multi her, it'll be Conjurer + the other class (no option for pure Wizard or a different Wizard subclass.)

[IndiraLightfoot]

 

Just a simple question, but like with Fassina, does this mean that Conjurer is preselected as level 1, and then I get to choose either Conjurer, Chanter or Druid at level 2?

 

No, I think it just means she must be of the Conjurer subclass regardless of the combination (or lack thereof) you choose. I expect her to behave like any other joinable NPC, whereby you need to choose whether to single- or multi-class them when you meet them. If you multi her, it'll be Conjurer + the other class (no option for pure Wizard or a different Wizard subclass.)

 

Interesting, but does this mean I can even skip that Conjurer if I want and go all in Druid single class for her?

[z_liquid]

 

 

Just a simple question, but like with Fassina, does this mean that Conjurer is preselected as level 1, and then I get to choose either Conjurer, Chanter or Druid at level 2?

 

No, I think it just means she must be of the Conjurer subclass regardless of the combination (or lack thereof) you choose. I expect her to behave like any other joinable NPC, whereby you need to choose whether to single- or multi-class them when you meet them. If you multi her, it'll be Conjurer + the other class (no option for pure Wizard or a different Wizard subclass.)

 

Interesting, but does this mean I can even skip that Conjurer if I want and go all in Druid single class for her?

 

You can't. By the looks of it you have to choose between the three options listed in the chart. Nobody has confirmed her class options, though, so they might have changed.

[dunehunter]

Pallegina will of course get Wraith of Fun Sun Which u can console it in beta.

[Guest]

His Chanter subclass is largely disappointing. I think he is better off as pure Druid, at least,if you're not in dire need of some of the Chanter phrases.

Constant AoE buff for free and a second renewable resource for Foe AoE offensive spells is disappointing? You’re hard to please.

[z_liquid]

This is Maia's subclass, Gunhawk: https://imgur.com/a/5972f6J

 

No idea what the birb does.

[JerekKruger]

 

His Chanter subclass is largely disappointing. I think he is better off as pure Druid, at least,if you're not in dire need of some of the Chanter phrases.

Constant AoE buff for free and a second renewable resource for Foe AoE offensive spells is disappointing? You’re hard to please.

Huh? As far as I can tell he gets some cross class spells that he can cast as invocations and loses access to summoning spells.

 

What constant AoE buff and second renewable resource do you mean?

[Guest]

 

 

I believe that you can't choose the sub class, but you can multiclass them into a select few classes depending on the character.

 

Extracted (correctly) by Yosharian from Josh's social media/stream statements.

Just a simple question, but like with Fassina, does this mean that Conjurer is preselected as level 1, and then I get to choose either Conjurer, Chanter or Druid at level 2?

When a party member joins, you get a pop-up that allows you to select their class, with three options. Fassina’s three options will be Conjurer, Sorcerer, or Loremaster.

[Guest]

 

 

His Chanter subclass is largely disappointing. I think he is better off as pure Druid, at least,if you're not in dire need of some of the Chanter phrases.

Constant AoE buff for free and a second renewable resource for Foe AoE offensive spells is disappointing? You’re hard to please.

Huh? As far as I can tell he gets some cross class spells that he can cast as invocations and loses access to summoning spells.

 

What constant AoE buff and second renewable resource do you mean?

Chants

[SaruNi]

 

 

 

His Chanter subclass is largely disappointing. I think he is better off as pure Druid, at least,if you're not in dire need of some of the Chanter phrases.

Constant AoE buff for free and a second renewable resource for Foe AoE offensive spells is disappointing? You’re hard to please.

Huh? As far as I can tell he gets some cross class spells that he can cast as invocations and loses access to summoning spells.

 

What constant AoE buff and second renewable resource do you mean?

Chants

 

 

What does that have to do with his chanter subclass?

[JerekKruger]

Chants

Oh I thought you meant something unique to his subclass. I assume L4wlight meant his sub was bad compared to a vanilla Chanter.

Edited May 7, 2018 by JerekKruger

[AndreaColombo]

Maia's subclass is actually nice, mostly on accounts of no drawbacks. I'm not a fan of firearms, but I guess I'll give them a try when I take her in my party.

[L4wlight]

 

Chants

Oh I thought you meant something unique to his subclass. I assume L4wlight meant his sub was bad compared to a vanilla Chanter.

 

Yes. Chanter already comes with strong offensive Invocations. The additions of his Subclass seem lackluster to me.

[StardustBunny]

So is it better to keep Tekehu singleclass druid? I know what to do with everyone else but I'm torn what to do with him. Is there a list of companions special subclass skills somewhere already!?

[Guest]

 

Chants

Oh I thought you meant something unique to his subclass. I assume L4wlight meant his sub was bad compared to a vanilla Chanter.

I think the argument was “his chanter subclass sucks”. My counterargument is that his his chanter subclass allows you to focus his druid abilities on passives and healing spells, and let the chanter side do most of the offensive casting. I’m not seeing anything in the higher level druid offerings that makes that look like a dumb move.

[Guest]

 

 

Chants

Oh I thought you meant something unique to his subclass. I assume L4wlight meant his sub was bad compared to a vanilla Chanter.

Yes. Chanter already comes with strong offensive Invocations. The additions of his Subclass seem lackluster to me.

Even with Heart of the Storm from his druid class?

[L4wlight]

You have to decide whether you need a Chanter or not. Some Chants are pretty nice to have! But imo it's more a decision between single-classed druid or multiclassed Druid/ Chanter.

[Guest]

I don’t know that anyone “needs” a chanter, but I do like the flexibility of a multi classed Tekēhu.

[L4wlight]

 

 

 

Chants

Oh I thought you meant something unique to his subclass. I assume L4wlight meant his sub was bad compared to a vanilla Chanter.

Yes. Chanter already comes with strong offensive Invocations. The additions of his Subclass seem lackluster to me.

Even with Heart of the Storm from his druid class?

 

Heart of the... what? You mean the generic POE1 talent?

[Guest]

No, the caster-specific PoE2 ability (that druids can access but chanters can’t)

[SaruNi]

 

 

Chants

Oh I thought you meant something unique to his subclass. I assume L4wlight meant his sub was bad compared to a vanilla Chanter.

I think the argument was “his chanter subclass sucks”. My counterargument is that his his chanter subclass allows you to focus his druid abilities on passives and healing spells, and let the chanter side do most of the offensive casting. I’m not seeing anything in the higher level druid offerings that makes that look like a dumb move.

 

 

His Druid subclass actually has great offensive casts---especially foe-only Chill Fog and Ocean Burst.

 

 

 

All of the invocations in his Chanter subclass are Druid spells except for Bulwark Against the Elements, Crackling Bolt, and Chain Lightning.

 

 

Dancing Bolts

Bulwark Against the Elements

Crackling Bolt

Overwhelming Wave

Cleansing Wind

Chain Lightning

Avenging Storm

Weather the Storm 

Tornado

Edited May 7, 2018 by SaruNi

[L4wlight]

Now I get it, but what's the selling point here exactly? Because the Chanter class already comes with better offensive/defensive invocations. I agree that multiclassing to chanter could be a beneficial decision, but that does not make his chanter subclass any better.

[Guest]

So is it better to keep Tekehu singleclass druid? I know what to do with everyone else but I'm torn what to do with him. Is there a list of companions special subclass skills somewhere already!?

Scattered throughout this thread. You might have to backtrack a little to find them all.

[Guest]

Now I get it, but what's the selling point here exactly? Because the Chanter class already comes with better offensive/defensive invocations. I agree that multiclassing to chanter could be a beneficial decision, but that does not make his chanter subclass any better.

Better than what? If the argument is that you could multiclass a more powerful hireling, I won’t disagree.

 

*His* options though are comparatively limited. Again, unless I’m completely misunderstanding the progression, a single class druid Tekēhu will need to pick 5 level 7 abilities, 4 level 8 abilities, and 3 level 9 abilities. Maybe you look at what’s on offer and think that’s pretty great.

 

I see one thing at level 7 that looks interesting and he gets it for free as a chanter. I see a couple of things that might be interesting at level 8, but I can get rough approximations much earlier in his chanter class. Level 9 I can do with scrolls.

 

With a few points in chanter I can turn him into a heal-bot that spams near-constant resistance to 6 flavors of afflictions. Oh he can then use that to cast even more offensive spells when he racks up enough phrases.

 

Seems like a no brainer to me.

 

Edit: typo

Edited May 7, 2018 by Achilles

[L4wlight]

While I don't think that multiclassing him is a no brainer, I completely agree with you that multiclassing him could increase his support capabilities a lot. But I'm not sold on spending any of my (generated) precious and limited phrases on the "not-overlapping" invocation-additions of his subclass, namely Bulwark Against the Elements, Crackling Bolt, and Chain Lightning.

Edited May 7, 2018 by L4wlight