algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Hey there, fellas! I'm not sure if this has ever been done here before, or if you guys would be interested in a project like this. I've done in other forums polls of the sort before, that compiled several lists of films, albums, books and the likes. I've never done one for games, and figured it'd be interesting to make one here, in a commmunity that is by and large comprised by gamers. The rules would be fairly simple: you would need to send me a list via PM of up to TWENTY-FIVE games, each labelled with developer and year to best tell them apart (some games may share the same name so labelling them by these would help me not to confuse one for the other); you have 125 points to assign between all 25 games, making it an average of 5 points per game - that way you can distribute priority between your favorites as you wish. If you don't assign points to the games, I will assume you have given five to each. Games are counted individually regardless of franchise or series connections, meaning that, for example, Half-Life and Half-Life 2 would count as two votes, not as one "Half-Life series" vote; however, you can if you so choose vote for a game expansion separate from the original campaign (e.g. you can vote for Mask of the Betrayer whilst ignoring Neverwinter Nights 2 if you so wish). Definitive Editions and the likes will count towards that game's primary release as well. The the ideal number of games to present is 25, you can choose to present fewer as well. If so, I will ask you to divide between all games a number of points equal to five times the number of games you've mentiones, meaning, for example, that a top 10 would have 50 points to share across the games, a top 15 75, a top 20 100, a top 22 110, a top 17 85, and so on. The list will be compiled giving priority to the number of votes accrued (that being the number of lists a game appeared in), and points will act as a tie-breaker between games with equal amount of votes. I will set a deadline for sending the lists at a later date, if this idea interests the rest. Edit: the deadline will be December 22nd. Please send in your lists via PM with the points distribution by then! To those wanting to take part... I have no problems with you guys sharing the lists in the thread before the compiled list is revealed, but I would suggest to avoid that simply so as to keep the results more a surprise when they are finally revealed. The list should reflect your personal taste first and foremost, instead of what your idea of the consensus or historical canon is - judge them according to how good you find the games to be personally, and not their historical significance, how "state-of-the-art" or graphically they are or any such thing. Give the list some thought, but don't overly obsess about it, this is just for fun after all. I hope the idea is interesting to you guys! --- The results have been moved over to the following thread: https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/95421-the-obsidian-community-all-time-top-106-games-results-106-81-up/ Edited December 29, 2017 by algroth 4 My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 This seems like a lot of work for us all just to agree Jagged Alliance 2 is the greatest game of all time. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 This seems like a lot of work for us all just to agree Jagged Alliance 2 is the greatest game of all time. Well, someone has to do it eventually, right? 1 My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Was there ever any doubt? 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Well, all joking aside is it something that would interest the board? My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I don't mind the idea and always like to see results of this sort, for some reason, but I'm not sure I even have 25 "all time favorite" games these days. Maybe 10-15. 1 “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yeah, I think I might have a hard time to think up 25 games. Would try though. 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Just try it out. I can reduce the number if needed, to maybe 20 or 10. But usually I find that people really underestimate the size of their list of favorites - my experience with other lists where I asked for people to give up to fifty items was that many considered it hard to get as many in at first, and then begrudge having had to leave out so many choices. Edited November 16, 2017 by algroth My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Should there not be a limit to how many points you can assign a single game? I could submit a list of 25 games, assign 1 point to 24 of them, and give the one 101, . Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Should there not be a limit to how many points you can assign a single game? I could submit a list of 25 games, assign 1 point to 24 of them, and give the one 101, . That's fine by me. Again, the 101 will only count for a tie-breaker, whilst the number of votes will always have a greater priority. You could have a game with 202 points from two votes which would still be beneath a game with only three points out of three votes. You also do at the risk of downvoting the rest of your choices, at least as far as the tie-breakers are concerned. If you guys feel it's still abusable I can put a cap though, but in the past I haven't encountered a problem with this. Edited November 16, 2017 by algroth My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Yeah, I guess it's not a big deal. Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 25. Daikatana, Developer:John Romero, Release: John Romero 24. Castlevania 64, Developer: Konami Computer Entertainment Kobe, Release: 1999 23. Rogue Warrior, Developer: Rebellion Developments, Release: 2009 22. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5, Developer: Robomodo, Release: 2015 21. Umbrella corps, Developer: Capcom, Release: 2016 20. Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City, Developer: SlantSixGames, Release:2012 19. Ride to Hell: Retribution, Developer: Eutechnyx, Release: 2013 18. The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct, Developer: Terminal Reality, Release: 2013 17. Call of Duty: Black Ops: Declassified, Developer: nStigate Games, Release: 2012 16. Doctor Who: Return to Earth, Developer: Asylum Entertainment, Release: 2010 15. Tunnel Rats: 1968, Developer: Uwe Boll, Release: Uwe Boll 14. Stalin vs. Martians, Developer: Black Wing Foundation, 2009 13. Lula 3D, Developer: cdv Software Entertainmnt, Release: 2006 12. Batman: Dark Tomorrow, Developer: Hotgen, Release: 2003 11. Bubsy 3D, Developer: SIE Bend Studio, Release: 1997 10. Link: The Faces of Evil, Developer: Animation Magic, Release: 1993 9. Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon, Developer: Animation Magic, Release: 1993 8. Final Fight: Streetwise, Developer: Capcom Production Studio 8, Release: 2006 7. Perfect Dark Zero, Developer: Rare, Release: 2005 6. Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis, Developer: Lucky Chicken Games, Release: 2003 5. Sonic the Hedgehog, Developer: Sonic Team, Release: 2006 4. Medal of Honor: Warfighter, Developer: Danger Close Games, Release: 2012 3. Half Life 3, Developer: GabeN, Release: GabeN 2. Superman 64, Developer: Titus Software, Release: 1999 1. Alien: Colonial Marines, Developer: Randy Pitchford, Release: Randy Pitchford 5 There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) No Big Rigs? Edited November 16, 2017 by algroth 2 My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 No Big Rigs? A classic. 1 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 Ride To Hell: Retribution is sort of a spiritual sequel to Big Rigs. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I'm struggling to think of five at the top of my head because I start focusing on what I dislike about them and how they could be better. Ideally there would be no all-time top 100 because there would be continuous improvement, which I'm not optimistic about tbh but there's some things I'm looking forward to. 14. Stalin vs. Martians, Developer: Black Wing Foundation, 2009Did he win? "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Did he win? Yes, Men in Black style. Edited November 16, 2017 by Katphood There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Just a quick easy maths heads up for anyone who might be feeling a little lazy about distributing points. An easy way of assigning points to your lists is by thinking of 25 points instead, and dividing the list of 25 games into five tiers of five games each. You can then assign an equal number of points to the games in each of these tiers so long as the number adds up to 25. Kind of like this... 1-5. 8 6-10. 6 11-15. 5 16-20. 4 21-25. 2 That means each of the films in those tiers get that many votes. Other examples... 1-5. 10 6-10. 6 11-15. 5 16-20. 3 21-25. 1 1-5. 10 6-10. 7 11-15. 4 16-20. 3 21-25. 1 1-5. 12 6-10. 6 11-15. 4 16-20. 2 21-25. 1 1-5. 7 6-10. 5 11-15. 5 16-20. 5 21-25. 3 Offering some options is all! Edited November 16, 2017 by algroth My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 14. Stalin vs. Martians, Developer: Black Wing Foundation, 2009Did he win? He turned a nuclear warhead into a satellite and blew them to bits as they approached Soviet space. My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 I'm struggling to think of five at the top of my head because I start focusing on what I dislike about them and how they could be better. Ideally there would be no all-time top 100 because there would be continuous improvement, which I'm not optimistic about tbh but there's some things I'm looking forward to If this is successful, I guess I could try running it again in a few years. It'd be interesting to see how they list would have changed by then. My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I'll give this a go. Edit: Here's my expanded list Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past Sim City Sid Meier's Civilization System Shock System Shock 2 Jagged Alliance 2 Baldur's Gate 2 : Shadows of Amn Planescape: Torment No One Lives Forever The Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt Liero Super Mario World The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall Medieval: Total War Space Rangers 2 King's Bounty: The Legend Chrono Trigger Secret of Monkey Island Psychonauts Beyond Good and Evil Street Fighter 2 Quake Spelunky Fallout 2 Super Metroid Fallout Mask of the Betrayer Icewind Dale Icewind Dale 2 Dungeon Siege 3 Silent Storm The Last Remnant Final Fantasy VIII Final Fantasy VI Secret of Mana Seiken Densetsu 3 Tales of Phantasia Ultima VII - The Black Gate Fallout - New Vegas Devil May Cry 3 Devil May Cry 4 Ogre Battle Vagrant Story Golden Axe Leisure Suit Larry in the Land of Lounge Lizards Grand Prix Circuit Lemmings Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe Sid Meier's Civilization IV The Sims 2 No One Lives Forever 2 Alpha Protocol Chip's Challenge Arkanoid II: The Revenge of Doh World Class Leader Board Castlevania: Symphony of the Night Grim Fandango Thief: The Dark Project Deus Ex Worms Diablo Command and Conquer: Red Alert Prince of Persia Batman: Arkham Asylum Kohan: Immortal Sovereigns Mass Effect 2 Edit2: Moar! Jet Set Willy Atic Atac Manic Miner Megalomania Xenon 2 Match Day 2 Jetpac Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar Baldur's Gate Gothic 2 Divinity II: The Dragon Knight Saga Rocksmith 2014 Pinball Fantasies Anachronox Unreal Tournament Risen The Chaos Engine Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe Cannon Fodder SWIV Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords Vampire: Bloodlines X-COM: Terror from the Deep Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (AAAAHHH, this should have been in the 25!) The Settlers 2 Caesar III Tetris Bubble Bobble Puzzle Bobble The Lost Vikings Super Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Starcraft 3 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiraLightfoot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) I've pondered over this list of mine, and decided to make it more a list of the games that I obsessively played - so best equals my getting obsessed with playing them a lot and intensively or even modding them. So, for instance, one of my favourite games (Planescape Torment) don't even get to #25 here, since I only played it once. The list slightly surprised me as well. I tend to rank newer games on this list higher (fresh memories?). 25. Cauldron II (1) 24. Champions of Krynn (1) 23. Civilization 3 (1) 22. Titan Quest (1) 21. Skyrim (1) 20. Warlords 2 (the modding, playing against my friends) (1) 19. Lord of the Rings Online (2) 18. Genghis Khan (2) 17. Civilization 1 (2) 16. Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss (3) 15. Fallout New Vegas (3) 14. Ultima VII The Black Gate (3) 13. Sid Meier's Pirates (4) 12. Civilization 2 (4) 11. Hearthstone (4) 10. Civilization V (with all expansions) (5) 9. Diablo 3 (I never played the earlier editions much. This is like poison) (5) 8. Dishonored 2 (7) 7. BG2 (7) 6. Company of Heroes 2 (I never played CoH1) (9) 5. Dishonored 1 (9) 4. Civilization IV (with all expansions) (11) 3. NWN1 (the fun on persistent servers was nearly endless, which makes up for rather basic solo campaigns) (11) 2. BG1 (13) 1. NWN2 + expansions (modding, persistent servers, MotB, why I am on these forums - need I say more?) (15) Edited November 21, 2017 by IndiraLightfoot 1 *** "The words of someone who feels ever more the ent among saplings when playing CRPGs" *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiraLightfoot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) Atic Atac Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar Speedball 2: Brutal Deluxe Bubble Bobble I love that you mention these - they were all contenders. I adored them and played them heaps and heaps. Edited November 17, 2017 by IndiraLightfoot *** "The words of someone who feels ever more the ent among saplings when playing CRPGs" *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiraLightfoot Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 25. Daikatana, Developer:John Romero, Release: John Romero 24. Castlevania 64, Developer: Konami Computer Entertainment Kobe, Release: 1999 23. Rogue Warrior, Developer: Rebellion Developments, Release: 2009 22. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5, Developer: Robomodo, Release: 2015 21. Umbrella corps, Developer: Capcom, Release: 2016 20. Resident Evil: Operation Racoon City, Developer: SlantSixGames, Release:2012 19. Ride to Hell: Retribution, Developer: Eutechnyx, Release: 2013 18. The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct, Developer: Terminal Reality, Release: 2013 17. Call of Duty: Black Ops: Declassified, Developer: nStigate Games, Release: 2012 16. Doctor Who: Return to Earth, Developer: Asylum Entertainment, Release: 2010 15. Tunnel Rats: 1968, Developer: Uwe Boll, Release: Uwe Boll 14. Stalin vs. Martians, Developer: Black Wing Foundation, 2009 13. Lula 3D, Developer: cdv Software Entertainmnt, Release: 2006 12. Batman: Dark Tomorrow, Developer: Hotgen, Release: 2003 11. Bubsy 3D, Developer: SIE Bend Studio, Release: 1997 10. Link: The Faces of Evil, Developer: Animation Magic, Release: 1993 9. Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon, Developer: Animation Magic, Release: 1993 8. Final Fight: Streetwise, Developer: Capcom Production Studio 8, Release: 2006 7. Perfect Dark Zero, Developer: Rare, Release: 2005 6. Aquaman: Battle for Atlantis, Developer: Lucky Chicken Games, Release: 2003 5. Sonic the Hedgehog, Developer: Sonic Team, Release: 2006 4. Medal of Honor: Warfighter, Developer: Danger Close Games, Release: 2012 3. Half Life 3, Developer: GabeN, Release: GabeN 2. Superman 64, Developer: Titus Software, Release: 1999 1. Alien: Colonial Marines, Developer: Randy Pitchford, Release: Randy Pitchford What I absolutely adore about this list. I haven't played a single game listed here! *** "The words of someone who feels ever more the ent among saplings when playing CRPGs" *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted November 17, 2017 Author Share Posted November 17, 2017 I've pondered over this list of mine, and decided to make it more a list of the games that I obsessively played - so best equals my getting obsessed with playing them a lot and intensively or even modding them. So, for instance, one of my favourite games (Planescape Torment) don't even get to #25 here, since I only played it once. The list slightly surprised me as well. I tend to rank newer games on this list higher (fresh memories?). 25. Cauldron II 24. Champions of Krynn 23. Civilization 3 22. Titan Quest 21. Skyrim 20. Warlords 2 (the modding, playing against my friends) 19. Lord of the Rings Online 18. Genghis Khan 17. Civilization 1 16. Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss 15. Fallout New Vegas 14. Ultima VII The Black Gate 13. Sid Meier's Pirates 12. Civilization 2 11. Hearthstone 10. Civilization V (with all expansions) 9. Diablo 3 (I never played the earlier editions much. This is like poison) 8. Dishonored 2 7. BG2 6. Company of Heroes 2 (I never played CoH1) 5. Dishonored 1 4. Civilization IV (with all expansions) 3. NWN1 (the fun on persistent servers was nearly endless, which makes up for rather basic solo campaigns) 2. BG1 1. NWN2 + expansions (modding, persistent servers, MotB, why I am on these forums - need I say more?) Cheers. Though for future participants, please send your lists as a PM to me please! :D 1 My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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