gsrs1277 Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 (edited) I'd love it if the design team could address this question at some point. I'm not in the habit of using message boards, so apologies if I'm missing some of the etiquette or if this is addressed elsewhere (But I don't think it has been). If a veteran of RPGs plays PoE 1 with all the latest updates and expansions on the highest difficulty level, its entirely possible for them to advance levels very quickly relative to the core game content, particularly if they seek out and pursue lots of challenging side content. This is paradoxically offset by the frustration of *not getting XP* for kills, either because they hit the XP cap for monsters very quickly (as there are so many enemies on Path of the Damned) or because they out-level hostile NPCs. The main drawback of this is that it means a large handful of encounters become unchallenging for experienced players. Is this going to be addressed in PoE 2? Obviously its a relatively complex design issue; but, for example, probably the simplest solution would be to add an option that makes you level up more slowly (i.e. by requiring more XP). I'd love to ask this question directly of someone on the design team; I understand it's only relevant to a small group of veteran players but I just wanted to get this out there publicly. So excited for PoE 2! Edit: The title of this post should be: "Question about Making the Game Challenging" but I forgot the "M" and don't know how to fix it! Edited October 7, 2017 by gsrs1277 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerekKruger Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 This is something that Obsidian have acknowledged wasn't great about Pillars so hopefully it'll be less of a problem in Deadfire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsrs1277 Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 If anyone could post links to where Obsidian has addressed this it would be greatly appreciated, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamppost in Winter Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 IIRC optional level scaling is a thing in Deadfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 If i understand correctly what you talk about is an issue of overleveling game content - doing sidequests make you higher level making some of the core content to easy as it was designed so you can beat it while skipping content. The game will have two modes - unscaled and scaled. In unscaled all the areas have set lvl to them, if they are higher level, or are underlevel you might wreck the enemies or get wrecked. The scaled run will scale enemies so they pose challange to your level. I am not sure if they scale them down if you wonder to harder area but it will scale them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draego Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If i understand correctly what you talk about is an issue of overleveling game content - doing sidequests make you higher level making some of the core content to easy as it was designed so you can beat it while skipping content. The game will have two modes - unscaled and scaled. In unscaled all the areas have set lvl to them, if they are higher level, or are underlevel you might wreck the enemies or get wrecked. The scaled run will scale enemies so they pose challange to your level. I am not sure if they scale them down if you wonder to harder area but it will scale them up. Also the scaling will be in a range. This isnt a oblivion situation where all enemies will always scale to your level. its more like this dungeon is a level 5-8 scalable dungeon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaColombo Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 IIRC optional level scaling is a thing in Deadfire Yup. Going by memory, both Josh and Adam confirmed (either in interviews or in Q&A sessions on Twitch) that you'll be able to choose whether you want scaling for everything, only for the critical path, or only for side content (I'm not 100% on the latter, but I am on the former two.) "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheisEjsing Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) I think the main solution to the lack of challenge for invested players is the new game + feature. It will allow you to set a number of different challenges for yourself on top of the inherent game difficulty. Edited October 8, 2017 by TheisEjsing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormerine Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I think the main solution to the lack of challenge for invested players is the new game + feature. It will allow you to set a number of different challenges for yourself on top of the inherent game difficulty. Oh right. Berath's Blessing thing. Completely forgot about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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