Bartimaeus Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/26/the-military-spends-five-times-as-much-on-viagra-as-it-would-on-transgender-troops-medical-care/ Man, that's just silly. Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
Chilloutman Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Federal Judge nominee claims Bible precedes Constitution oh boy oh boy I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Guard Dog Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Federal Judge nominee claims Bible precedes Constitution Can't open that page. Well... if she means chronologically she's right. I suspect that isn't what them mean. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Why they hell are we covering Viagra? My insurance does not even cover that. Not that I need it..... 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gfted1 Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Eh, Viagra and Cialis are about to drop off the exclusive list and generic equivalents are just around the corner and the price will crater. Free boner pills for everyone! 1 http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Gfted1,black,red.png
Gfted1 Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 seize the means of reproduction! No can do! You young chumps are firing blanks. Ok, back to Trump bashing. What an a-hole he is for the transgender rule. http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Gfted1,black,red.png
Chilloutman Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 never heard about these guys, can some of our german speaking friends there confirm if this is fake news? Have the information media in the 2015/16 reporting on the 'refugee crisis' met their responsibilities? About whom was reported when and how? These and other questions are addressed by the OBS study by Prof. Dr. Michael Haller after. In the methodically complex investigation, more than 30,000 newspaper reports were recorded, longitudinal analyzes were undertaken back to 2005, and reports from news sites such as lead media were analyzed. The study shows that large sections of journalists have failed to recognize their professional role and have neglected the enlightenment function of their media. Instead of acting as a neutral observer to critically accompany the politics and its enforcement bodies, information journalism took over the view, including the slogans of the political elite. The findings prove the great alienation between the established journalism and parts of the population. https://translate.google.cz/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://www.otto-brenner-preis.de/&prev=search I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Hurlshort Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 I never thought about it that way. I was looking at it more from a perspective of folks with gender dysphoria already having a clue about themselves. At any rate this hearkens back to a discussion you and i participated in not long ago about the benefits of gender-reassignment surgery. I still disagree with you and assert it is an elective surgery. A man who identifies as female and has an operation is still a man afterwards. Just with a few bits moved around. Ditto for the women. It is superficial, skin deep, a nose job. If they want it, more power to them but don't ask the tax payers to cover it for you. Until we figure out a way to swap that Y chromosome for an X or vice versa, you are stuck with what you were born with. I can respect that. And honestly, if the tweet had simply said that the government will not be covering and transgender surgeries at the expense of the taxpayers, it would be a more reasonable argument. But Trump said they were going to ban a certain group of people from the military. That is pretty much textbook discrimination. 1
Chilloutman Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 I never thought about it that way. I was looking at it more from a perspective of folks with gender dysphoria already having a clue about themselves. At any rate this hearkens back to a discussion you and i participated in not long ago about the benefits of gender-reassignment surgery. I still disagree with you and assert it is an elective surgery. A man who identifies as female and has an operation is still a man afterwards. Just with a few bits moved around. Ditto for the women. It is superficial, skin deep, a nose job. If they want it, more power to them but don't ask the tax payers to cover it for you. Until we figure out a way to swap that Y chromosome for an X or vice versa, you are stuck with what you were born with. I can respect that. And honestly, if the tweet had simply said that the government will not be covering and transgender surgeries at the expense of the taxpayers, it would be a more reasonable argument. But Trump said they were going to ban a certain group of people from the military. That is pretty much textbook discrimination. would you tell same for example about astronaut? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Hurlshort Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 would you tell same for example about astronaut? I am not sure I understand the question. All I care about for both soldiers, astronauts, etc. is whether they are physically fit and able to do the job.
HoonDing Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 This takes me back. When I worked for the military I met a transgender officer. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Elerond Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Buzzfeed makes it sound life in Pentagon is quite nerve-racking these day. https://www.buzzfeed.com/coralewis/trump-transgender-military-service?utm_term=.fxq55qLn07#.upJ00JLrE9 "At the Pentagon, the first of the three tweets raised fears that the president was getting ready to announce strikes on North Korea or some other military action. Many said they were left in suspense for nine minutes, the time between the first and second tweet. Only after the second tweet did military officials receive the news the president was announcing a personnel change on Twitter."
Malcador Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Why they hell are we covering Viagra? My insurance does not even cover that. Not that I need it..... Have to ensure all weapons are functional. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
HoonDing Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 as long as they can shoot commies muslims i don't care what's between their legs The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Azdeus Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) My guess would be it has something to do with the appeal of service. The military has always been popular as an option for those struggling to find their identity. There seems to be some overlap according to this survey. It's also possible that it is a result of trying to overcompensate, if you follow my train of thought. Some trans people can feel they need to prove they are more manly than what they are deep down, and it's definetly seen as very manly being in the service. To be fair, Klinger vehemently denied being transgender to the shrink (Sydney iirc) so even he wasn't that desperate in the end Edited July 26, 2017 by Azdeus Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
Chilloutman Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 would you tell same for example about astronaut? I am not sure I understand the question. All I care about for both soldiers, astronauts, etc. is whether they are physically fit and able to do the job. nice dodge, mental health is irelevant? When I stretch it - i have same problem with new ''Alien' movies. I just can't stand that fact that you would pick so volatile and ''disturbed'' people on mission costing bazilions of cash. If it would be on you wouldn't you pick people 'suited' for that job? I think military is very similiar in that regard... I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Hurlshort Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 would you tell same for example about astronaut? I am not sure I understand the question. All I care about for both soldiers, astronauts, etc. is whether they are physically fit and able to do the job. nice dodge, mental health is irelevant? When I stretch it - i have same problem with new ''Alien' movies. I just can't stand that fact that you would pick so volatile and ''disturbed'' people on mission costing bazilions of cash. If it would be on you wouldn't you pick people 'suited' for that job? I think military is very similiar in that regard... I wasn't trying to dodge, I really didn't understand your question. So your feeling is that transgender people are not mentally equipped to handle military service, I take it? That seems like a pretty serious accusation, and also a slippery slope. Are women unfit for duty? Hormones and all that. There already is a mental health requirement for enlistees in the military. The only thing that should matter is if the person can pass that, regardless of anything else. Lets be honest, the military is going to attract some head cases. Their gender identity is pretty low on my list of worries as to who we give access to heavy weaponry. 2
Guard Dog Posted July 26, 2017 Posted July 26, 2017 Apparently Bernie Sanders has been stealing his neighbor's newspaper: http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/07/25/report-bernie-sanders-stealing-neighbors-newspaper-d-c/ Makes sense I guess. The neighbor has a paper, Bernie does not. How is that fair? Where is the justice in that? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Elerond Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 Apparently Bernie Sanders has been stealing his neighbor's newspaper: http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/07/25/report-bernie-sanders-stealing-neighbors-newspaper-d-c/ Makes sense I guess. The neighbor has a paper, Bernie does not. How is that fair? Where is the justice in that? In socialism it is called involuntary sharing for common good.
smjjames Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 @ anyone who is Polish or can confirm this The article I posted about the veto says the Polish ruling believes the following....is this objective of "impossibilism " valid The attempt by Poland's Law and Justice party to take control of the judicial system should be seen as part of a wider campaign to dismantle democratic checks and balances on the government’s actions, from its takeover of state media to its capture of the country’s constitutional tribunal. Jarosław Kaczyński, PiS’s leader, has developed a theory known in Poland as ‘impossibilism’, the idea that no serious reform of Polish society and institutions is possible due to these checks and balances, and what he describes as the vested interests of liberal elites and foreigners intent on exploiting the country. Sounds exactly like what they're trying to do, remove all checks and balances to power.
Chilloutman Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 would you tell same for example about astronaut? I am not sure I understand the question. All I care about for both soldiers, astronauts, etc. is whether they are physically fit and able to do the job. nice dodge, mental health is irelevant? When I stretch it - i have same problem with new ''Alien' movies. I just can't stand that fact that you would pick so volatile and ''disturbed'' people on mission costing bazilions of cash. If it would be on you wouldn't you pick people 'suited' for that job? I think military is very similiar in that regard... I wasn't trying to dodge, I really didn't understand your question. So your feeling is that transgender people are not mentally equipped to handle military service, I take it? That seems like a pretty serious accusation, and also a slippery slope. Are women unfit for duty? Hormones and all that. There already is a mental health requirement for enlistees in the military. The only thing that should matter is if the person can pass that, regardless of anything else. Lets be honest, the military is going to attract some head cases. Their gender identity is pretty low on my list of worries as to who we give access to heavy weaponry. What I am trying to say is that you probably want to minimalize risks and costs associated with it. And yes, I do think that transgender people are not the most mentally stable persons. I think its quite common knowledge that they have to take quite a lot of drugs and go to psychologists. I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Azdeus Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) What I am trying to say is that you probably want to minimalize risks and costs associated with it. And yes, I do think that transgender people are not the most mentally stable persons. I think its quite common knowledge that they have to take quite a lot of drugs and go to psychologists. The only "drugs" that is prescribed for transgender people are hormones, and specialized psychologists evaluate if they really are transgender or if it's something else that is going on and follows the transperson through their transition, that's it. Some people might have other problems aswell, but that's not exclusively tied to them being trans. You should read up more on that "common knowledge" mate :/ Edited July 27, 2017 by Azdeus Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
Chilloutman Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) edit: ninjed Edited July 27, 2017 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Rosbjerg Posted July 27, 2017 Author Posted July 27, 2017 Feeling out of place has always been dangerous for your mental wellbeing. Being poor, a part of minorites and even worse, something not socially accepted, tend to rake up the suicide numbers. And that has always been used by the empowered to justify discrimination. From forced sterilisation of homosexuals ("they are sick! Look at those suicide numbers!") to even criminalizing poverty. A dandy world view.. 2 Fortune favors the bald.
Azdeus Posted July 27, 2017 Posted July 27, 2017 (edited) What I am trying to say is that you probably want to minimalize risks and costs associated with it. And yes, I do think that transgender people are not the most mentally stable persons. I think its quite common knowledge that they have to take quite a lot of drugs and go to psychologists. The only "drugs" that is prescribed for transgender people are hormones, and specialized psychologists evaluate if they really are transgender or if it's something else that is going on and follows the transperson through their transition, that's it. Some people might have other problems aswell, but that's not exclusively tied to them being trans. You should read up more on that "common knowledge" mate :/ 40% suicide rate. Doesn't sound to mentally stable to me. Acting like everything is fine and dandy with transgender people is doing a disservice to them. I'm pretty certain that having people harass you, glare at you for looking 'manish' and similar things have nothing to do with it. The massive amounts of hate some of them has to take from society would affect anyone. Edited July 27, 2017 by Azdeus Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
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