Sedrefilos Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Funny how they don't want to release a world map because,as they say, it'll limit future design. As if geography itself is the foundation of great sotries and ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 It'd be a better fantasy setting if there weren't a world map. Leave it to be explored. It's a pseudo-renaissance setting. In the real world much of the map was being uncovered by then (apart from Australia and New Zealand). 1 Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanval Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 There is a map, and it will be revealed when we sail with our ship in PoE2. Knowing that PoE2 is a game focused on exploration on a overland map, is normal that devs don't reveal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Interesting that Rauatai is a nation, NOT a landmass. The wording there could even have the Rauatai gulf as part of the same continental landmass as the Eastern Reach and Ixamitl. This post from Sawyer is the one that puts Deadfire to the south: "- Deadfire Archipelago - Quite a ways south of the Dyrwood, a wide archipelago of small volcanic island nations. Naasitaq, home of many boreal dwarves and aumaua, is the biggest and most stable nation around. Various nations and empires fight over the islands, to the east of which are sea monsters that invariably annihilate any ships that attempt to go exploring (many of them dwarven)." https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64747-issues-with-npcitem-surveys/page-2?do=findComment&comment=1400302 Very true, this is why I thought to myself that Rauatai probably will be on a different continent due to Eastern Reach being rather "recently" discovered. As for JES, this may be confusing because of the lenght of the archipelago: it supposedly spans from the southern pole all the way to the equator. It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Moving the western end of Deadfire south of Dyrwood, closer to Old Vailia, and having it stretch into the far east (with a very much larger southern ocean) would resolve most of the contradictions. However it would be hard for it to stretch "to the equator" if is south of Dyrwood (I believe it is confirmed that Dyrwood is in the southern hemisphere). I think we need to accept that Obsidian don't have a secret map of Eora, and official statements are sometimes contradictory. In terms of Deadfire gameplay, it makes sense for the Watcher to be able to sail south from Dyrwood to reach Deadfire, without having to cross/sail round a large continental landmass to get there. The name Ixamitl PLAINS suggests an inland region with little or no coastline. This can be resolved if Rauatai is a costal strip along the northern edge of the Eastern Reach continent, cutting Ixamitl off from the sea to the north. Raedceras cuts Ixamitl from the sea to the south. The lack of coastline would help to explain why Ixamitl was never as expansionist as Vailia and Aedyr. Edited February 21, 2018 by Fardragon 1 Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I think we need to accept that Obsidian don't have a secret map of Eora, and official statements are sometimes contradictory. This. It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 It'd be a better fantasy setting if there weren't a world map. Leave it to be explored. It's a pseudo-renaissance setting. In the real world much of the map was being uncovered by then (apart from Australia and New Zealand). Right. However, in this world there be actual dragons and giant sea monsters. Possibly the world hasn't even been circumnavigated yet because it's just too dangerous. 3 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 Right. However, in this world there be actual dragons and giant sea monsters. Possibly the world hasn't even been circumnavigated yet because it's just too dangerous. Sea monsters? Naw, you got it all wrong, the stretch goal wasn't achieved 4 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I heared there's a map of Deadfire Archipelago in a weird antique store around Monastiraki square here in Athens. No one has ever figured out which one yet. Hm... I'll acquire the quest to find it! Off I go! 3 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Ok, ok... So here's the result of my quest: After a thorough search in the endless junk maze that is the antique stores area of Monastiraki https://drive.google.com/open?id=11tqGQ-oiruAMzQArHWuAfouywueEACs1 I came across some old man called barba-Kostas, who claimed to have met a weird person some 36 years ago named Messier. That person claimed to be a companion of some supposedly famous sailor named Fulvano. He sold barba-Kostas a map of a far away land he traveled with that Fulvano guy. The map (barba-Kostas was kind enought to let me borrow the map for a quick scan) is this! https://drive.google.com/open?id=131r0wBlTh48FucT0PDTINTsDIoypRSKN So there you have it... the closest depiction of Deadfire Archipelago I could acquire. EDIT: for unknown kinds of problems the above images could not be shown. I changed them with direct links - hope it works :/ Edited February 28, 2018 by Sedrefilos 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndiraLightfoot Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Εὕρηκα! 2 *** "The words of someone who feels ever more the ent among saplings when playing CRPGs" *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Indeed I found it! I hope the presentation of this document will force the devs to either confirm this is real or show us the real one to prove this isn't the one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) I came across some old man called barba-Kostas, who claimed to have met a weird person some 36 years ago named Messier. That person claimed to be a companion of some supposedly famous sailor named Fulvano. He sold barba-Kostas a map of a far away land he traveled with that Fulvano guy. The map (barba-Kostas was kind enought to let me borrow the map for a quick scan) is this! Messier... Anyhoo, the actual Fulvano's map looks like this Edited February 28, 2018 by Messier-31 1 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Also, if you take this image, deskew and straighten it out a bit, you wind up with something like: Edited February 28, 2018 by Ethics Gradient 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Good work! I was trying to work out which way was the top. The most distinctive feature is the dark mass at the top right (NE?) It appears to be surrounded by a reef(?) called Magran's Teeth. Edited March 1, 2018 by Fardragon Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I was expecting Deadfire to be bigger... oh, well hope there is more uncharted islands to discover. After all it might look small but have noumerous maps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I was expecting Deadfire to be bigger... oh, well hope there is more uncharted islands to discover. After all it might look small but have noumerous maps. It could still be quite huge assuming relatively similar ocean maps. Plenty of space to explore... and get wrecked by hostile ships. Here's the beta map overlaid on that promo image I deskewed. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) Some debate about it presently, but the top left right of the map appears to be Magram's Teeth and Ondra's Mortar. Neketaka is located approximately in the center. Edit: Checks hands like was taught in grade school. One hand doesn't make an L shape, so that's probably not the left. Edited March 1, 2018 by Ethics Gradient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algroth Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Here's hoping the map will be even bigger, but all the same, great work! 2 My Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/alephg Currently playing: Roadwarden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 The fandom comes through, and pointed me towards this better map. Thanks, BeautifulBearInATutu! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramintai Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Nice! Now where's Naasitaq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethics Gradient Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Nice! Now where's Naasitaq? Presumably, follow the islands south and west off the bottom corner of the map, and you’ll bump into it eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sedrefilos Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 So I guess we're gonna sail in a small part of Deadfire. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messier-31 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Nice! Now where's Naasitaq? Much to the south, so probably not in the game, because the size of Deadfire is just too enormous. WHERE IS FULVANO'S VOYAGE CHAIN OF ISLAND(S), now that is the question. 1 It would be of small avail to talk of magic in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramintai Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 Nice! Now where's Naasitaq? Much to the south, so probably not in the game, because the size of Deadfire is just too enormous. No? I though we were gonna meet Sagani in Deadfire somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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