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Rescind the offer and lower it...BRILLIANT!

 

So what happens when he doesn't sign and re-enters the draft next year? Is San Diego just out of luck on that 1st round pick they spent on him or do they get an additional 1st round pick next year?


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They get nothing. Bosa, on the other hand, is relatively in the clear after that. He probably won't be selected as high...but probably still somewhere in the first round.

 

Additionally, they're not allowed to re-select him.

 

The lesson here? Don't treat the overall #3 pick like crap for months on end, and then try to make up at the last second after they've already decided you're not worth playing for anymore.

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Rescind the offer and lower it...BRILLIANT!

 

So what happens when he doesn't sign and re-enters the draft next year? Is San Diego just out of luck on that 1st round pick they spent on him or do they get an additional 1st round pick next year?

 

The deadline for trading him has passed (Aug 9).

 

The Chargers have until November 15th (Week 10) to sign him so he could play the remainder of the season.

 

If that doesn't occur, they can still sign him before the end of the season but he can't play.  If THAT fails, they lose his rights completely with NO compensation and Bosa re-enters the 2017 draft.

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No compensation for SD! That's a jagged pill to swallow considering first round picks can make or break a franchise for years.


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No compensation for SD! That's a jagged pill to swallow considering first round picks can make or break a franchise for years.

 

Yep.  NBA is the same way and they don't offer compensatory picks for FA losses either.  MLB offers compensatory picks for unsigned 1st or 2nd round selections and the NHL offers compensatory picks for any unsigned draft choice.   

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bosa not signing with sd makes little economic sense.  sit out a year and he won't go top 3 next year. even if bosa believes the sd offer is bad, whatever deal he gets this year will be better than what he gets offered next year.  plus, money is worth more today than it is tomorrow.  the millions he earns now, invested, will already be generating considerable income over the course o' the year.  from an economics standpoint, there is no way bosa walks away from this as a winner.  he lost the best deal he were gonna get, and now he can only mitigate his losses.

 

'course, these kinda negotiations is rare just 'bout the economics.  am guessing that bosa would rather lose a big pile o' money than cave to sd's demands.  will be interesting to see how this plays out.

 

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a more balanced bosa article than we is seeing at espn and elsewhere.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/08/25/whos-to-blame-for-the-chargers-joey-bosa-fiasco-everyone/

 

HA! Good Fun!

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Pretty decent pre-season drubbing of Cleveland by the Buccaneers. I suspect Tampa Bay is now happy not to know what it's like to experience A Day Without A Mexican kicker. 


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The Browns just have so very little quality depth, and some of their starters are pretty questionable, too. I can see them winning maybe a few games in the beginning of their schedule, but it's hard to see them finishing the season well (relatively speaking) after injuries have piled up on their better players.

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Should maybe clarify. I like Aguayo and appreciate his background.

 

I'm dumb.
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Yes, I'm dead inside as soon as football season starts

 

I stopped watching the NFL for a few years after cheering some random Cowboy injury. I don't want to be evil but when it comes to "America's team" I just can't help it

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The only time I can ever seriously envisioning myself being happy that another player has been injured is when they have consistently attempted to hurt others. Brandon Meriweather, with his long history of headhunting...was headhunting Eddie Lacy in a...2013 game, I think it was, and then attempted to do so on our backup RB right after after Lacy was taken out of the game for a concussion caused by Meriweather. He ended up concussing himself instead.

 

Have a little empathy, man.


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heeeeeeeeeeeeey bosa signed

 

From what I'm reading, the chargers seemed to cave a little more than they did with their last best offer. Guess Bosa didn't feel like missing out on like an extra ten million dollars if he waited to get drafted next year. Fair enough - he put up a pretty good fight.

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calling bs on the cartoon. is the signing bonus that is deferred.  heck, Gromnir got a signing bonus from our current employer, and we actual had to wait six months to get it. with sd's offer, bosa would need wait 'til january to get a lion'e share o' his signing bonus... five months from now.]

 

the washington post article we linked were surprising fair. can scroll back up and take a looksee.

 

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The entire point of the comic, I feel, is about what's standard in a given industry for a given position (and accounting for specific context, such as being a top "prospect" and thus typically deserving better than lesser prospects), not necessarily about specific details across industries themselves.

 

Hmm, fair? Eh...regardless of its fairness, it's ultimately rather worthless, since it gave little actual specific details on the negotiating situation itself nor very much about precedent with other players, but rather more concerned itself with covering the general details and background for someone not familiar with this sort of situation or why the situation arose to begin with. The only specific details it really covered was parroting the line the Chargers PR trotted out about how it was "the highest initial signing bonus"...and then failed to mention the other major point of contention, the offset language. It also failed to mention how badly the Chargers lowballed him at the start, and how bloody long it took for them to start giving him even halfway decent offers. Instead, to counter, it really only mentioned how Bosa's agency vaguely called out the Chargers for being deceptive and misleading towards the public, and failed to provide any sort of insight on why that might be. I don't know, that doesn't seem that compelling of an argument in regards to fairness...but uh, I guess at least the tone of the article attempted to sound fair vs all the media idiots who immediately and mindlessly piled on Bosa, I suppose.

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