Apparently standing up to SJW pressure is good for business

[Qistina]

I believe you mean DreadOut?

 

Yes Dreadout, already post a link above

[Hurlshort]

Oh yay, another thread where people complain about SJW's.  Video games are seriuz bizness!

[Malcador]

Oh yay, another thread where people complain about SJW's.  Video games are seriuz bizness!

Well, it does feed the people (a little bit, I guess) who run the company that owns the board we are using, so yes, it is serious business.

 

But yes, people get too wound up over how fake characters are dressed or portrayed for my liking but where we are someone needs to be outraged. Heh, people will never learn to just ignore things they are 'offended' by.

[Mamoulian War]

okokok... I just have opened a document about "decommissioning a workstation" a document basically about backing up a software on an encrypted hard drive before deletion...

 

The first thing which popped up was:

 

"Notes on this document:

 

References to persons contained in this document do not differentiate on the basis of gender."

 

WHAT THE FLYING ****!!!

 

where this world is going to, when you have to put disclaimers like that even on documents talking about backing up and uninstalling ****...

 

[BruceVC]

okokok... I just have opened a document about "decommissioning a workstation" a document basically about backing up a software on an encrypted hard drive before deletion...

 

The first thing which popped up was:

 

"Notes on this document:

 

References to persons contained in this document do not differentiate on the basis of gender."

 

WHAT THE FLYING ****!!!

 

where this world is going to, when you have to put disclaimers like that even on documents talking about backing up and uninstalling ****...

 

 

 

You make me laugh....you are right that is a completely pointless thing to include in a document about  " "decommissioning a workstation"

 

I work in software and once worked at a large  Microsoft partner  and my specialty was Active Directory and Exchange. I know exactly the required and normal steps to decommission a workstation and gender doesn't come into it ...there is no gender identification required to do that task, its is ridiculous to even suggest that 

 

 

But its also funny       

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

Well, I do understand your points, but some people in this universe, that some entertainment is marketed purely for women, and some purely for men. If a company wants to release a game, which is catering only one specific audience, who am I to judge them? Or even worse, who am I to force them my view and opinions?

 

I find most of Activision and Bioware games as garbage, because I am not their primary audience. But as all of us can see, they have their audience, and we can admire them or ridicule them, but we should not force them to cater our taste.

 

Some games are marketed purely for "Typical white straight male" audiences. For me, it is the same as some books, which are marketed purely for "Typical romance loving women".

 

There is nothing wrong about both ideas. Seriously, complaining that Death or Alive is marketed to unrealistic jiggling loving audience is as ridiculous as complaining that Rosamunde Pilcher is having not enough "mature" content for U.S. Marine corps...

 

I find both of the audiences for these "trade goods" as ridiculous, but as I said. Who am I, to judge their taste?

 

 

These were completely valid points if we weren't living in a world that seems to have decided (hardcore?) gaming is mainly for men.

 

As is, I see nothing wrong in prodding them a bit about the existence of different demographics.

[Mamoulian War]

never change Nippon

 

 

Seeing that video now for the first time, I see horns on the "ladies". One would presume, that they are not women, but succubi. Looking at the Pathfinder statblock of Succubi, there is clearly written:

 

DR 10/cold iron or good; Immune electricity, fire, poison; Resist acid 10, cold 10; SR 18

 

In this case, it is fully understandable, that they do not need much armor to get more protection from attacks, and therefore prefer to dress more appropriate to their role, so they could more easily apply this special ability to their unsuspected victim...

 

Energy Drain (Su) A succubus drains energy from a mortal she lures into an act of passion, such as a kiss. An unwilling victim must be grappled before the succubus can use this ability. The succubus’s kiss bestows one negative level. The kiss also has the effect of a suggestion spell, asking the victim to accept another act of passion from the succubus.

 

Seems pretty legit costume for that job

[Malcador]

okokok... I just have opened a document about "decommissioning a workstation" a document basically about backing up a software on an encrypted hard drive before deletion...

 

The first thing which popped up was:

 

"Notes on this document:

 

References to persons contained in this document do not differentiate on the basis of gender."

 

WHAT THE FLYING ****!!!

 

where this world is going to, when you have to put disclaimers like that even on documents talking about backing up and uninstalling ****...

Blanket disclaimers, hard to imagine much bad PR from someone complaining that a document reading "a user should ensure he..." is sexist or something, though. Actually...no I can really picture a storm of outrage over it.

[BruceVC]

 

Oh yay, another thread where people complain about SJW's.  Video games are seriuz bizness!

Well, it does feed the people (a little bit, I guess) who run the company that owns the board we are using, so yes, it is serious business.

 

 

Malc I have to say you do seem to pick on Hurlshot....its like you very critical and are quick to point out a debatable inconsistency in his posts...when he makes them  but we all do this. It seems deliberate to me 

 

For example, yes you right. For millions of people the video game industry is  how they sustain themselves and provide for there families...of course its important. Like any job its an extremely important part of society...but Hurlshot knows this, you must know he knows this ...I know he knows this. So obviously what he said pertains to the whole " SJW aspect and criticisms and views about GG "....and he is right. Most of it, if not all of it, is BS. More of a distraction to real issues 

 

So it just seems you are overly critical towards some of his comments. Sorry to get involved but you did say you were unaware of it the last time Hurlshot said you were judging his comments. But I have also noticed it so I believe you would prefer to know this

[Malcador]

Hm, still seems like serious business given the attention on it in that aspect of late, complete with tales of persecution and woe and being booted from a PUG in ESO and robbing girls of the belief that they too can be a Stormtrooper.

 

The second half of my post which you omitted does address the other half.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Hm, still seems like serious business given the attention on it in that aspect of late, complete with tales of persecution and woe and being booted from a PUG in ESO and robbing girls of the belief that they too can be a Stormtrooper.

 

Ironically, we also seem to have passed the point where there's much more outrage in the reaction to those opinions than in the actual opinions themselves.

 

But I guess I shouldn't expect you to notice that.

[Fenixp]

Oh please, the whole 'gamergate' ordeal which popularized the term so much was entirely based around being outraged about outrage - what else could you expect of a 'movement' which rose out of an ex-boyfriend of a chick saying she cheated on him with reporters, oh no! And it's a shame too, because if the whole thing was actually focused on journalism as opposed to raging on the internet, it could actually tackle the real issues we have in a meaningful and intelligent fashion. As it stands, journalists will disclose more information for a while, people will calm down, forget, and everything will be back to how it's always been. 'Gamergate' my ass...

Edited November 30, 2015 by Fenixp

[BruceVC]

Oh please, the whole 'gamergate' ordeal which popularized the term so much was entirely based around being outraged about outrage - what else could you expect of a 'movement' which rose out of an ex-boyfriend of a chick saying she cheated on him with reporters, oh no! And it's a shame too, because if the whole thing was actually focused on journalism as opposed to raging on the internet, it could actually tackle the real issues we have in a meaningful and intelligent fashion. As it stands, journalists will disclose more information for a while, people will calm down, forget, and everything will be back to how it's always been. 'Gamergate' my ass...

To be honest I am opposed to elements  within  GG and anti-GG

 

But I still believe anti-GG needs to take more blame for the current dichotomy that exists between people who support GG and those that don't....its become unnecessarily ideological the whole debate 

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Oh please, the whole 'gamergate' ordeal which popularized the term so much was entirely based around being outraged about outrage - what else could you expect of a 'movement' which rose out of an ex-boyfriend of a chick saying she cheated on him with reporters, oh no!

 

But no you don't understand it actually went much deeper than that, don't you see? Her game was mentioned in an article rounding up games released that month! The corruption! It's unbearable!

[Fenixp]

To be honest I am opposed to elements  within  GG and anti-GG

 

But I still believe anti-GG needs to take more blame for the current dichotomy that exists between people who support GG and those that don't....its become unnecessarily ideological the whole debate 

The main issue is that the debate didn't actually have a unified ideology. For a while I've been watching how the 'manifesto' or whatever developed - I was waiting when will quality of grocery lists in the gaming industry be added. *sigh*, I'm sorry for digressing, I don't want to turn this into GG/Anti-GG debate, personally I want to stay as far away as possible from both sides of the conflict, it's quite frankly ridiculous.

[Malcador]

Ironically, we also seem to have passed the point where there's much more outrage in the reaction to those opinions than in the actual opinions themselves.

 

But I guess I shouldn't expect you to notice that.

Did I claim otherwise ? Again, the half of the post Bruce omitted..

 

Is a funny thing though to watch, the fuss over something actually becomes the thing. I guess given the people arguing though, it does make sense. Any given event is a cudgle to beat people with. Not really that new, is par for the course in politics, no ?

Edited November 30, 2015 by Malcador

[BruceVC]

 

Oh please, the whole 'gamergate' ordeal which popularized the term so much was entirely based around being outraged about outrage - what else could you expect of a 'movement' which rose out of an ex-boyfriend of a chick saying she cheated on him with reporters, oh no!

 

But no you don't understand it actually went much deeper than that, don't you see? Her game was mentioned in an article rounding up games released that month! The corruption! It's unbearable!

 

 

 

Come on guys...you can't tell me this is not hilarious, many things about GG were absurd and when you look back now you must laugh at it 

[Malcador]

Come on guys...you can't tell me this is not hilarious, many things about GG were absurd and when you look back now you must laugh at it 

Don't need to look back to find it funny. Flame war waged by screwballs, what wasn't funny

[ktchong]

FYI, BioWare is the biggest SJW game developer around... except they more or less supported SOPA (as their parent company EA does.)  Which are two of the reasons I have stopped buying BioWare game since 2007(?)  That last game I bought from BioWare was the first Mass Effect on Xbox 360, (which I did not complete because the Xbox burned out.)  There are about six or seven reasons why I have refused to buy anything from BioWare since then.

Edited December 4, 2015 by ktchong

[rheingold]

The Gamergate crowd threatened to rape women. There was and is no justification in a civilized society for them. Period.

[Lexx]

So what, anti-gg crowd threatened to ruin people's lives as well. Besides, if I want to, I could make me some random alt and spew anti-gg bs. Next day I create a new alt and spew pro-gg bs. Then I watch people errupt in flames. Much joy.

[GhoulishVisage]

People really need to learn to title their threads in ways that cause discussion, not arguments.

[Nonek]

Smart move, appeal to the spending consumer rather than the whining Patreon beggars and spoiled leeches. As well as of course taking a morally correct stance for ethics, positivity and the innocent rather than idiot terrorists whom have used bomb threats to try and silence any dissent to their sick censorship and pathetic attempts at victimhood.

[Volourn]

"The Gamergate crowd threatened to rape women. There was and is no justification in a civilized society for them. Period."

 

That was anti Gamergate who did that. They also laughed and mocked someone who was actually assaulted in her home.

 

 

Nazi SJWs will Nazi SJWs. Anyone who supports them is against freedom. PERIOD.

[rheingold]

"The Gamergate crowd threatened to rape women. There was and is no justification in a civilized society for them. Period."

 

That was anti Gamergate who did that. They also laughed and mocked someone who was actually assaulted in her home.

 

 

Nazi SJWs will Nazi SJWs. Anyone who supports them is against freedom. PERIOD.

Nonsense, the Gamergate story is well documented by a variety of media companies many of them not particularly left wing.

The harassment from those **** of women gamers is well known. BTW comparing SJW's to Nazis. Way to go! Hyperbole much?