BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 While I have little sympathy for cheaters there's a bit of victim blaming in attacking them for being stupid when it's the website that told them it was discrete who didn't have enough security to stop hackers from accessing and releasing all their data. I hear you but I have no sympathy for people who want to cheat on there partners ...rather become single "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 "Its cheaper to keep her." 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Cheaters are simply degenerates. There's little discussion to be had on that department. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 While I have little sympathy for cheaters there's a bit of victim blaming in attacking them for being stupid when it's the website that told them it was discrete who didn't have enough security to stop hackers from accessing and releasing all their data. IIRC didn't the site also claim they would wipe the data they had on users if they requested it, but didn't wipe it? I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Even worse, iirc, the wipe was a paid service that they never actually performed. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 L0L All the moral judgment here is horrible. Unless you are the spouse or a family member it';s really none of your business. The evil ones in this are the hackers. They are hardcore nutballs who are dangerous nazi scumbags. 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighter Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 While I have little sympathy for cheaters there's a bit of victim blaming in attacking them for being stupid when it's the website that told them it was discrete who didn't have enough security to stop hackers from accessing and releasing all their data. Good example of the "victim blaming" concept being taken too far. Yes they are victims of a hacking and/or a broken contract. They are also dumb and exercised terrible judgment in putting their real names on the record of their indiscretions where it will stay forever. One doesn't exclude the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 L0L All the moral judgment here is horrible. Unless you are the spouse or a family member it';s really none of your business. The evil ones in this are the hackers. They are hardcore nutballs who are dangerous nazi scumbags. No I am fine with passing judgement on people who cheat on there partners ...its the principle Volo imagine you and I were dating....would you cheat on me "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 "Its cheaper to keep her." Cheaper to divorce in a non-hostile environment as well Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) "No I am fine with passing judgement on people who cheat on there partners ...its the principle " \ L0L Written like a true nazi. "Volo imagine you and I were dating....would you cheat on me " I'm not gay so your scenario would never happen. Not my choice so don't blame me. It's nature. Edited August 21, 2015 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 "No I am fine with passing judgement on people who cheat on there partners ...its the principle " \ L0L Written like a true nazi. "Volo imagine you and I were dating....would you cheat on me " I'm not gay so your scenario would never happen. Not my choice so don't blame me. It's nature. You say you not gay but what has that got to do with us dating, it can be a platonic relationship? Think of everything we have in common...we both like fantasy RPG ? We both like Pizza ? The more I think about it the more sense it makes ....is it because I live in South Africa and you not sure what you will tell your family? Don't worry about that I'll speak to them..I'm in sales so I'm good with people "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) "And in the intervening years, when the old Obsidian fans cast their minds back in time, they might for a moment think of the June 2015 'Journalism and Bias in the Gaming Industry' thread and in doing so remember post #536 and shudder. Then to clear their mind of that traumatic period long ago, they shall stand and perhaps go outside for a walk or pet a kitten or do anything that would restore a sense of normalcy to their poor damaged psyches..." Edited August 21, 2015 by Amentep 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 "Its cheaper to keep her." Cheaper to divorce in a non-hostile environment as well I can see that you have never been divorced. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 "And in the intervening years, when the old Obsidian fans cast their minds back in time, they might for a moment think of the June 2015 'Journalism and Bias in the Gaming Industry' thread and in doing so remember post #536 and shudder. Then to clear their mind of that traumatic period long ago, they shall stand and perhaps go outside for a walk or pet a kitten or do anything that would restore a sense of normalcy to their poor damaged psyches..." I hope I am not dragging down the level of decorum on this thread ..I just think sometimes one must take an opportunity when presented "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 L0L All the moral judgment here is horrible. Unless you are the spouse or a family member it';s really none of your business. The evil ones in this are the hackers. They are hardcore nutballs who are dangerous nazi scumbags. Well, well, well. Looks like we got ourselves a cheater-lover here now. We don't take your kind kindly here. 2 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 L0L All the moral judgment here is horrible. Unless you are the spouse or a family member it';s really none of your business. The evil ones in this are the hackers. They are hardcore nutballs who are dangerous nazi scumbags. Well, well, well. Looks like we got ourselves a cheater-lover here now. We don't take your kind kindly here. " a cheater-lover " ... thats funny "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 To me, it kind of isn't my business unless the "cheater" is my significant other AND we haven't agreed to be in an open relationship. 2 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 It is not adultery when the women are infidel. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 To me, it kind of isn't my business unless the "cheater" is my significant other AND we haven't agreed to be in an open relationship. But to not approve of moral choices people make doesn't have anything to do with it with being your business For example someone who hits his wife isn't really your business but you wouldn't approve right ? This is just about your opinion "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Did you just comapre one perosn choosing to use physical violence on another unwilling human being with two people choosing to have sex together? COME ON. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) To me, it kind of isn't my business unless the "cheater" is my significant other AND we haven't agreed to be in an open relationship. But to not approve of moral choices people make doesn't have anything to do with it with being your business For example someone who hits his wife isn't really your business but you wouldn't approve right ? This is just about your opinion I never made a statement about morality or physical violence. "Cheating" isn't an area that I think is relevant to anyone concerned but those in relationships with those involved and the legal system (if needed) and any deities that might exist and/or care about that sort of thing. Edited August 21, 2015 by Amentep I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 To me, it kind of isn't my business unless the "cheater" is my significant other AND we haven't agreed to be in an open relationship. But to not approve of moral choices people make doesn't have anything to do with it with being your business For example someone who hits his wife isn't really your business but you wouldn't approve right ? This is just about your opinion I never made an statement about morality or physical violence. "Cheating" isn't an area that I think is relevant to anyone concerned but those in relationships with those involved and the legal system (if needed) and any deities that might exist and/or care about that sort of thing. Yes, yes I was just using the physical violence as an example I misunderstood you, I thought you were saying you don't have an opinion on people who cheat on there partners as its not your business. I was then trying to explain, and clearly failing horribly, that you can still have an opinion on things that aren't your business "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) Did you just comapre one perosn choosing to use physical violence on another unwilling human being with two people choosing to have sex together? COME ON. No this was just an example ..but don't kid yourself cheating on your partner in this way using this type of website and opportunities can lead to many bad things....its not always harmless Check this story, I knew the guy who was killed http://ewn.co.za/2014/03/26/Accused-confesses-to-Dustin-Bloms-murder http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/ex-stripper-held-for-montecasino-murder-1.1582682#.VdeEBfmqoqM Edited August 21, 2015 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Any meetup based on online contact is dangerous, you only need to look up the thefts and murders that happen around craigslist deals to know that. Not sure how that related to a widower being murdered by a stripper when neither linked article indicated they met online...? I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Any meetup based on online contact is dangerous, you only need to look up the thefts and murders that happen around craigslist deals to know that. Not sure how that related to a widower being murdered by a stripper when neither linked article indicated they met online...? I like the way you always read articles and understand the context...I was hoping you would read those links so now I can explain further Its a sad story what happened to Dustin, the guy that was killed, his wife died giving birth to his twins and he obviously went through a severe and understandable depression. Its unusual for a women in our modern age to die in childbirth ..anyway he met that stripper on a dating website Now of course I am not suggesting that people you meet on these dating websites are going to try to kill you but this is a example of how bad things can go So going back to my original point these websites are not always just about " dating " someone. This was the point I was making to Volo "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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