Build Thread 2.0

[Gorgon]

Success. Windows boots up in the blink of an eye.

[Gorgon]

Bizzarely the fans make more noise in intervals once every 20 mins or so for approximately 30 seconds with the temp steady at 28 degrees than they did when I set the CPU to 100%

for 3 - 5 minuites. Maybe something is just having a hard time accepting that the CPU fan is at 400-470 rpm and thinks something is wrong.

 

During the stress test the CPU got to 32 degrees and was likely still rising when I closed it, but rising very slowly. I'm well pleased that it could stave off CPU temps for so long.

 

EDIT> nevermind. Opened the case and stuck my ear to the board, it's the power supply doing that. Don't know why I'm running the case open and obsessing about every little noise lol.

[Gorgon]

I'm getting slow m.2 results. About 1/3 of what I expected in Crystaldisk. Board supports Sata6gb and PCI mode but states that these may be CPU dependent. I can only chose PCI mode in the bios. Maybe that's because the card only does PCI, not sure.

 

The slots the m.2 slot shares bandwith with are pci express 2.0, and the m.2 card supports PCI express 3.0x4. I can only suppose this is the bottleneck. Can I use a PCI extention card with the m.2 disk in one of the PCIex 3.0 slots, would that help ?

 

Edit : the answer appears to be yes, I was worried that there was a controller chip in the mix or something making it impossible unless the MB supported it.

[Bartimaeus]

I seriously doubt that PCIE 2.0 is bottlenecking your SSD. An x16 slot has about 8GB/s (not Gbps!) of bandwidth.

[Gorgon]

Saw a thread where a guy had tried both the m.2 slot and the PCI card with a board in the same family as mine and the latter was faster. Also the PCI 2.0 slot is only x1. From what I can se there are 5 long slots in my board , 2 PCI 3.0 ,  2 PCI 2.0 and a legacy PCI. Also two short ones, PCI 2.0x1 Those are the ones sharing a bandwith with the M.2 slot.

[Bartimaeus]

I didn't realize it was a 1x slot - I figured 4x. In that case...nevermind.

[Gorgon]

went with that r9 380 because 2gb texture ram on the tgx950 didn't seem like a lot. 

[Gorgon]

I did not expect to be able to run out of PCIe lanes and effective x16 speed at all, but apparently that's quite doable while adding an m.2 to a PCIx16 slot. because of the way the MB swaps around bandwith.  

 

 

 

http://superuser.com/questions/1020268/does-m-2-ssd-card-mess-with-pci-express

[Bartimaeus]

That, and a x16 2.0 slot is still enough for current gen top end GPUs (or close to), and a 3.0 slot is...uh...I think double the bandwidth, so yeah, I wouldn't expect it to make much difference.

[Humanoid]

And that a PCI-E SSD saturating the bandwidth would probably soon overheat and start throttling anyway. At any rate, for both graphics and storage, both aspects are something that'd only likely ever show in edge-case benchmarks and are of no concern to the typical end-user. So for storage at least, there's a reason I'd always recommend bigger over faster.

[Gorgon]

Well, I paid more for that SSD than the GFX, I'm getting the heatsink version of the PCI 3.0x4 mode card for the m.2 and I will be laughing maniacally while loading everything seconds before everyone else !!!

[Gorgon]

My PSU started making a lot of noise in games having installed the GFX card, it's drawing more power obviously and the components are making vibration and popping noises, it sounds like an analogue modem or something, regarless of whether the fans are going. 

 

This must be the dreaded coil whine and It's much more noticable than with my previous GPU. No fix for that other than getting another.  

[Gorgon]

Anyone have a better suggestion than the 750 W version of this ?

 

http://www.seasonicusa.com/G-series-450-550-650.htm

[Humanoid]

Not really, it's good. If you are looking at some other models though, I consider JonnyGuru to be the authoritative source for PSU reviews, and though they don't have a review of the G750, they love the G650.

[Bartimaeus]

Better, as in higher quality? Nope. Seasonic is essentially the gold standard in consumer-grade PSUs (or, at the very least, one of the gold standards). However, I find Seasonics to be mildly to moderately overpriced, so I tend to avoid them personally...but you certainly can't go wrong with them if you don't mind paying just a little extra for more or less the highest quality. I say "more or less", because there are other brands that are pretty darn close to the same quality, but a little cheaper: some of those brands even just use rebrands of Seasonic PSUs, haha.

Edited April 18, 2016 by Bartimaeus

[Keyrock]

Seasonic is indeed the gold standard in PSUs.  If you buy Seasonic you know you're getting top notch build quality, Japanese capacitors, no corner cutting, just a rock solid product.  You can probably get something that will work just as well for less, but when you buy Seasonic you know for sure you're getting top quality.  When I bought my Seasonic X Series 850W PSU I got it on sale plus a rebate, so I managed to buy it for what I would have paid for a cheaper 850W PSU, thus it was a no-brainer.  Generally, though, you are going to pay a premium over other brands when you buy Seasonic.

Edited April 19, 2016 by Keyrock

[ManifestedISO]

Used to have a thing for PC Power and Cooling, haven't tried their new brand FirePower. They have a good rep on newegg.

[Bartimaeus]

Seasonic is indeed the gold standard in PSUs.  If you buy Seasonic you know you're getting top notch build quality, Japanese capacitors, no corner cutting, just a rock solid product.  You can probably get something that will work just as well for less, but when you buy Seasonic you know for sure you're getting top quality.  When I bought my Seasonic X Series 850W PSU I got it on sale plus a rebate, so I managed to buy it for what I would have paid for a cheaper 850W PSU, thus it was a no-brainer.  Generally, though, you are going to pay a premium over other brands when you buy Seasonic.

 

I don't consider mail in rebates as part of the price: I've been screwed out of too many for literally no given reason for me to do so. It's also just such a crappy process in general.

[Keyrock]

 

Seasonic is indeed the gold standard in PSUs.  If you buy Seasonic you know you're getting top notch build quality, Japanese capacitors, no corner cutting, just a rock solid product.  You can probably get something that will work just as well for less, but when you buy Seasonic you know for sure you're getting top quality.  When I bought my Seasonic X Series 850W PSU I got it on sale plus a rebate, so I managed to buy it for what I would have paid for a cheaper 850W PSU, thus it was a no-brainer.  Generally, though, you are going to pay a premium over other brands when you buy Seasonic.

 

I don't consider mail in rebates as part of the price: I've been screwed out of too many for literally no given reason for me to do so. It's also just such a crappy process in general.

 

It is indeed a hassle, but of the dozen or so rebates I've sent in during my life, I've actually gotten money for all of them, shockingly enough.

[Gorgon]

So the whining and popping stopped. Now the fans just go all the time in games and it's cooling itself enough not to make extra noise. The fans are kinda annoying since everything else in the case is new and operating quietly and effectively, but since they only go in games I'm usually blasting sound out of my speakers or headphones anyway. I wonder why it took so long to change its mode of operation. 

[Sarex]

I sent my monitor to service again, for the same issue. It seems these panels have issues with bright spots appearing, among other things... Anyways, I'm going to return it after they confirm the issue and swap it for a 34UC88 (curved), or if I can get a confirmation from the seller that they will getting it, the 34UM88 model (flat). Both have Free Sync which I won't be using unless I switch to AMD, but the flat model has a 75HZ refresh rate, on the other hand if the 34UM88 has the same panel as the 34UM95 (the one I currently own) I'll be running the risk of the bright spot appearing again. I had no luck finding out the ID of the panel of the new model.

 

edit: Seems both the 34um88 and the 34uc88 are 60Hz default and 75Hz with freesync enabled.

Edited April 27, 2016 by Sarex

[Bokishi]

Some minor upgrades

 

 

[teknoman2]

i was looking at the numbers and from what i see the RX480 has exactly 5x the performance of my current card (HD7770) with the same power consumption and almost the same price i payed for it back in the day. can't wait for the end of the month. 

[Bartimaeus]

Yeah, we'll see how that pans out in the actual benchmarks, the only measure that really matters...

[teknoman2]

well i don't expect it to be rivaling the 1070, though it would be really funny if it did, but compared to my current card it's a huge leap. 

some numbers

HD7770: 1TFLOP, 1GB G5, 128bit bus, 1020MHz, 85W

RX480: 5.5TFLOPS, 8GB G5, 256bit bus, 1266MHz, 90-100W

if not 5x, 4x for sure, though i think even more than 5x is not impossible