After the Grizz were eliminated I was so upset I just turned off the NBA from my consciousness for a while. But it's cool. I'm over that now. I'm paying attention again. you have to admit, if the Cavs beat GSW (something I still think is unlikely) Lebron will have to be acknowledged as on of the greatest players ever. Because without him they don't even make the playoffs.

"fter the Grizz were eliminated I was so upset I just turned off the NBA from my consciousness for a while. But it's cool. I'm over that now. I'm paying attention again. you have to admit, if the Cavs beat GSW (something I still think is unlikely) Lebron will have to be acknowledged as on of the greatest players ever. Because without him they don't even make the playoffs."

 

Uh.. It's already been ackonowledged and clear that he is one of the best ever.

  I was talking about amongst us Volo! Who care what the sports pundits and everyone else thinks!

I have to admit, I hate how Golden State plays. Granted, I preferred the early 90's version of the NBA, where you didn't give up layups, and Robert Parrish could punch Bill Laimbeer and not get ejected.

To be fair the refs would probably let anyone get away with punching Laimbeer

 

Edit- I meant refs of any era. Sorry, heavily medicated and under the weather

Edited May 29, 201510 yr by ShadySands

I'm all for hard fouls and physical play. But let's leave the thuggery and goonsmanship culture in sport to Kaneda.

Looks like it's Fred Hoiberg to Chicago and Alvin Gentry to NOLA. Really good hires for both teams. Anthony Davis is going to feast next year.

To be fair, I don't really support punching people. It would just be nice if there was a more "let them play" attitude in the NBA than there is now. Horford being thrown out of that game, for example, was pretty ridiculous.

Baskeball season is starting in two weeks.

 

Here are the various Las Vegas lines on the regular season:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24743449/odds-future-scouting-the-nba-season-overunder-win-totals

 

SEASON WIN TOTALS OVER/UNDERS

SPORTSBOOK.COM/ THEGREEK.COM/ BOVADA.LV/ WESTGATE

Atlanta Hawks 42 41.5 41 40.5

Boston Celtics 26.5 26.5 26.5 26.5

Brooklyn Nets 42 41.5 41.5 41.5

Charlotte Hornets 45.5 45 45 45.5

Chicago Bulls 55.5 55 54.5 55.5

Cleveland Cavaliers 59 59 58.5 58.5

Dallas Mavericks 50 49 49.5 49.5

Denver Nuggets 41.5 41.5 41.5 40.5

Detroit Pistons 36 36 35.5 36.5

Golden State Warriors 52 51.5 50.5 50.5

Houston Rockets 50.5 50.5 49.5 49.5

Indiana Pacers 34 33.5 33 32.5

Los Angeles Clippers 57 55 54.5 55.5

Los Angeles Lakers 31.5 33 32.5 31.5

Memphis Grizzlies 48.5 49 49 48.5

Miami Heat 43.5 43.5 44 43.5

Milwaukee Bucks 24.5 24.5 24 24.5

Minnesota Timberwolves 26 25.5 26.5 25.5

New Orleans Pelicans 43.5 44 43 41.5

New York Knicks 41 41 40.5 40.5

Oklahoma City Thunder 57.5 57.5 57.5 57.5

Orlando Magic 28.5 28 27.5 28.5

Philadelphia 76ers 16.5 17.5 15.5 15.5

Phoenix Suns 44.5 44 44 42.5

Portland Trail Blazers 49.5 49 49 48.5

Sacramento Kings 30 30 29.5 30.5

San Antonio Spurs 56.5 56.5 57 56.5

Toronto Raptors 49 48 48.5 49.5

Utah Jazz 26 25.5 24 25.5

Washington Wizards 49.5 49.5 50 49.5

 

The Odds:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24745237/odds-future-scouting-the-lines-for-the-nba-title-east-and-west

 

ODDS TO WIN THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP

SPORTSBOOK.COM/ THEGREEK.COM/ BOVADA.LV

Cleveland Cavaliers 3-1 3-2 5-2

San Antonio Spurs 4-1 7-2 4-1

Oklahoma City Thunder 13-2 13-2 11-2

Chicago Bulls 8-1 6-1 11-2

Los Angeles Clippers 11-1 12-1 10-1

Houston Rockets 25-1 15-1 20-1

Dallas Mavericks 30-1 40-1 20-1

Golden State Warriors 30-1 20-1 20-1

Washington Wizards 40-1 40-1 33-1

Portland Trail Blazers 50-1 25-1 40-1

Charlotte Hornets 60-1 50-1 66-1

Memphis Grizzlies 60-1 50-1 50-1

Miami Heat 60-1 50-1 50-1

New York Knicks 60-1 50-1 50-1

Toronto Raptors 60-1 60-1 50-1

 

ODDS TO WIN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE

SPORTSBOOK.COM/ THEGREEK.COM/ BOVADA.LV

Cleveland Cavaliers 20-21 4-5 4-5

Chicago Bulls 3-1 5-2 9-4

Washington Wizards 15-1 15-1 25-1

Miami Heat 20-1 20-1 25-1

Charlotte Hornets 25-1 20-1 25-1

Brooklyn Nets 30-1 30-1 28-1

New York Knicks 30-1 30-1 25-1

Toronto Raptors 30-1 30-1 20-1

 

ODDS TO WIN THE WESTERN CONFERENCE

SPORTSBOOK.COM/ THEGREEK.COM/ BOVADA.LV

San Antonio Spurs 5-2 5-2 9-4

Oklahoma City Thunder 3-1 3-1 5-2

Los Angeles Clippers 5-1 5-1 5-1

Houston Rockets 10-1 7-1 9-1

Golden State Warriors 12-1 12-1 10-1

Dallas Mavericks 15-1 20-1 10-1

Portland Trail Blazers 20-1 15-1 20-1

Memphis Grizzlies 30-1 30-1 25-1

 

CAVS are favored to win it all.  But at 3-2 to win the championship, those are terrible odds to take.

 

The Warriors, with an over/under at 50.5 and 12-1 to take the West, the smart VEGAS bet would be taking the over and putting them down on making the Finals. 12 -1?? I'd have to turn in my Degenerate Gambler Members Only card not to take them odds.

 

 

Look at this dolt. Picking the Warriors. Lols.

 

The current line is with the Dubs as -270 favorites. That's like bigger than Mayweather v Pacquiao.

 

My FINALS prediction: I'll amend it to GSW in 6 with Draymond Green as the Darkhorse MVP. Gonna be Curry though with him as the -175 favorite.

GS is not winning in CLE. It'll be 5 or 7 games. I say 5. GS is too good to lose to the Cleveland Lebrons. 12 on 1 isn't fair odds.

Edited June 4, 201510 yr by Volourn

That Kyrie injury looks bad. I can see Cleveland double down on Lebron ISO's for the rest of the series.

Yeah but that's not gonna win them the series. We saw it in OT. We even saw it on the last possession in regulation. That kind of style means Lebron has to shoot perfectly which is not going to happen. CLE was dreadful in OT. Only points  was at the end when GS basically let  Lebron walk to the net. L0L

 

Still, being on the road, CLE played close. Then again, so did HOU....

 

The fact that CLE lost when Lebron set a personal best for points in the Finals 9when he has a pretty good sample size) is not a good sign.

 

\Yet again, Lebron is the best player  but on the worst team (Out of two) playing.

Gotta hope Kyrie Irving is ok, you hate to see an injury like that.

 

 

From the Warriors perspective, if they can get up by 10, I don't see how Cleveland can come back.  The Rockets were super dangerous and cut down a lot of leads, but I just don't see how the Cavs can generate quick points when they need them.  

Warriors strategy was essentially to let Lebron get His on tough single coverage D by committee and prevent anyone else from getting good looks.

Give Iguodala the game ball though. He forced some really tough shots on Lebron (who made plenty) but he had to work for them.

 

Edited June 5, 201510 yr by Leferd

With Irving out I think Volo may be right about GSW in 5

Nah. Blatt is gonna get into Beast Coaching Mode:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A no-look backwards pass for three, what. Might have to add hoops to the football/golf/racing schedule. Sorry, hockey.

 

When did the temple buzz haircut thing become a thing. 

Easy win for GS. CLE is just too sloppy and the refs not calling fouls properly doesn't help. Still, either way, no contest.

It's not fair to have teen wolf on your team

What the hell was that garbage. Some brutal basektball. Cavs won but I just don't see them winning 4 out of 7. James is trying way too hard, exhorting so much effort, that in last part of games he just has no energy left. And, the reffing (despite a lot of fouls calls) is dreadful. The Cavs aren't ready to win. Maybe next season.

Delly plays D. Kyrie doesn't. Lebron was an effective blunt instrument tonight.

 

Curry's not going to shoot like this the rest of the series.

I'll say this if Cleveland wins, the entire league espciially GS should be ashamed of themselves. That's a team - despite Lebron - who should never be able to call themselves 'best team in NBA'\. That's PUKE WORTHY.

Delly plays D. Kyrie doesn't. Lebron was an effective blunt instrument tonight.

 

Curry's not going to shoot like this the rest of the series.

 

Kyrie did give Curry problems in game 1, but still though Delly is the better defender.

Not when he was guarding Thompson. I think it was more Curry not making his shots.