Walsingham Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Running with a hunch, quite interested in maybe living in Estonia for a couple of years. I've been UK bound too long, basically. IIRC we have some Estonians on the forum. Anyone care to do a quick country brief? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Beautiful women, cheap alcohol.. uh.. ferries to Sweden. ... I got nothing. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 You already listed two things more than necessary. L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 European hybrid of Thailand with Third Reich. Forced into prostitution minorities, European sex-tourists and Parades of Waffen-SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 They speak language that sounds finnish, but I can't usually understand it Their capital is old Hanseatic League city, which old town area is quite beatifully medieval. Alchol and most of other stuff are there much cheaper than what it is in for example in Finland or Sweden. There is some miff between estonian speaking majority and russian speaking minority. There is excelent spas in Pärnu. Its legal red-light services for turists has given some infamousness for them, but also lot of turists from surrounding countries (not that there is many turist that admit that it was reason why they pick Estonia over some other country) People there are usually quite nice, but in turist bars one should be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Estonia is as same, Latvia yes? http://www.chrisconnollyonline.com/2009/02/72-is-partial-compendium-latvian-humor.html "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I don't really know anything about it but I'll be there in July Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Estonia is as same, Latvia yes? http://www.chrisconnollyonline.com/2009/02/72-is-partial-compendium-latvian-humor.html Not quite, Latvia is Estonia's southern neighbour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 The old town in in Tallin is nice, a very hansian architecture. And they have nice spa's. 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 European hybrid of Thailand with Third Reich. Forced into prostitution minorities, European sex-tourists and Parades of Waffen-SS. So like Russia then. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 European hybrid of Thailand with Third Reich. Forced into prostitution minorities, European sex-tourists and Parades of Waffen-SS. So like Russia then. No I say Russia has more hookers and strippers "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Running with a hunch, quite interested in maybe living in Estonia for a couple of years. I've been UK bound too long, basically. IIRC we have some Estonians on the forum. Anyone care to do a quick country brief? I know some people who live there and I've had chats to some of them about there culture They haven't had the economic transformation they hoped for since the fall of Communism. There is some political influence from some groups to align themselves back to Russia but that won't happen. The capital city seems cool. I saw a documentary on it on BBCFood and there all these new amazing restaurants springing up, the people all seem to speak and at least understand English but I would say they are conservative as a nation generally. If you want I can put you in contact with someone I know from another forum who lives there? Edited May 15, 2013 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 No I say Russia has more hookers and strippers Obvious lie. This pic show percentage of Men (by Country) Who Paid for Sex at Least Once. No Russia in this top list. http://prostitution.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004119 Jean Vandepitte, MD, et. al., in the June 2006 Sexually Transmitted Infections article "Estimates of the Number of Female Sex Workers in Different Regions of the World," wrote: "In sub-Saharan Africa, the FSW [Female Sex Workers] prevalence [percent equals estimated number of FSW in an area multiplied by 100 and divided by the size of an area's female population between the ages of 15-49] in the capitals ranged between 0.7% and 4.3% and in other urban areas between 0.4% and 4.3%. Population surveys from this same region yielded even higher proportions of women involved in transactional sex. The national FSW prevalence in Asia ranged between 0.2% and 2.6%; in the ex-Russian Federation between 0.1% and 1.5%; in East Europe between 0.4% and 1.4%; in West Europe between 0.1% and 1.4%; and in Latin America between 0.2% and 7.4%.... [M]ost countries in the world do not know the size of this population group. The estimates of the prevalence of FSW presented in this paper show how important this hard-to-reach population group is in all parts of the world." http://prostitution.procon.org/view.answers.php?questionID=000095 Your racial stereotype about Russians not related to reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 European hybrid of Thailand with Third Reich. Forced into prostitution minorities, European sex-tourists and Parades of Waffen-SS. So like Russia then. No I say Russia has more hookers and strippers No, they kidnap women and export them as prostitutes. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Estonia is a nice country. The most modern urban parts almost remind me of Sweden a bit. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 No, they kidnap women and export them as prostitutes.Yet another Western erotic fantasies about Russia. people missed per year in Russia ~ 70 000, 80-90% founded, ~ 14 000 not found. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Пропавший_без_вести people missing in US per year ~ 800 000 http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/01/800000_missing_kids_really.html people missing in UK per year ~ 275 000 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-missing-each-year-275000-britons-disappear-1801010.html Every year in Germany, more than 100,000 children and young people are reported missing. http://www.creativeguerrillamarketing.com/guerrilla-marketing/guerrilla-marketing-good-missing-children-initiative/ Why nobody don't cry about kidnapped German, American or Brit womans forced into prostitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Estonia is as same, Latvia yes?http://www.chrisconnollyonline.com/2009/02/72-is-partial-compendium-latvian-humor.html Not quite, Latvia is Estonia's southern neighbour Is bad joke gone awry. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 No, they kidnap women and export them as prostitutes.Yet another Western erotic fantasies about Russia. people missed per year in Russia ~ 70 000, 80-90% founded, ~ 14 000 not found. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Пропавший_без_вести people missing in US per year ~ 800 000 http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/01/800000_missing_kids_really.html people missing in UK per year ~ 275 000 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-missing-each-year-275000-britons-disappear-1801010.html Every year in Germany, more than 100,000 children and young people are reported missing. http://www.creativeguerrillamarketing.com/guerrilla-marketing/guerrilla-marketing-good-missing-children-initiative/ Why nobody don't cry about kidnapped German, American or Brit womans forced into prostitution? Russian Wikipedia isn't a reliable source. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 No, they kidnap women and export them as prostitutes.Yet another Western erotic fantasies about Russia.people missed per year in Russia ~ 70 000, 80-90% founded, ~ 14 000 not found. http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Пропавший_без_вести people missing in US per year ~ 800 000 http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2007/01/800000_missing_kids_really.html people missing in UK per year ~ 275 000 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-missing-each-year-275000-britons-disappear-1801010.html Every year in Germany, more than 100,000 children and young people are reported missing. http://www.creativeguerrillamarketing.com/guerrilla-marketing/guerrilla-marketing-good-missing-children-initiative/ Why nobody don't cry about kidnapped German, American or Brit womans forced into prostitution? Russian Wikipedia isn't a reliable source. Correct, everyone knows that Russian Wikipedia is sponsored by Putin to make Russia look better and progressive !!! "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Last time I was in Estonia was in October 1992, so I think my countrymen above have a better picture of it. OTOH, the Estonian-Russian Mafia (Obtshak) is a fairly big player around here. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Last time I was in Estonia was in October 1992, so I think my countrymen above have a better picture of it. OTOH, the Estonian-Russian Mafia (Obtshak) is a fairly big player around here. Hi Nep Don't forget those Russian models you met and got the photo taken with "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Excluding oby's lazy trolling it sounds like a good place to go. So should I definitely go to the capital then, or would it make sense to headquarter outside it somewhere? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obyknven Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) It's good place to go, yeah. Apartheid state where 30% of populace are discriminated, 10% of populace have stateless status ( they have no rights ). http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/EUR51/002/2006/en/08694661-d3d3-11dd-8743-d305bea2b2c7/eur510022006en.html Because of Estonian politics no normal work for minorities exists, only prostitution for pleasure of European tourists. For the study, Estonia's National Institute for Health Development interviewed 210 prostitutes in Tallinn, most of whom reported that they have had Finnish clients. The next largest groups using their services are men from Estonia itself and from Sweden. Because this many Swedes and Finns described Estonia as nice country, they feel yourself as proud white masters here. http://yle.fi/uutiset/finns_fuelling_estonias_sex_trade/6501707 I known Jewish family also, they emigrate from Estonia because Nazism ideology resurrection. http://cms.horus.be/files/99935/MediaArchive/Racist%20Violence%20Report%20Estonia%20-%20online.pdf http://defendinghistory.com/estonian-fascist-admirers-preparing-july-2013-waffen-ss-fest/53612 Edited May 16, 2013 by LadyCrimson video embeds removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 @obyknven - do you think maybe we could focus a little less on political/bashing articles/vids in a thread where the OP (Walsh) just wanted some basic thoughts re: maybe living somewhere for a few years? This isn't really the thread for such debate, I think. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Last time I was in Estonia was in October 1992, so I think my countrymen above have a better picture of it. OTOH, the Estonian-Russian Mafia (Obtshak) is a fairly big player around here. Hi Nep Don't forget those Russian models you met and got the photo taken with Those weren't Estonian, but, indeed, Russian. And they wanted their picture taken with me, not the other way around. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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