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"Yay, EA is going bankrupt so Zynga will suddenly start making RPGs with deep, complex narratives and a ton of C&C! Happy tidings!"

 

Your remark would be less funny, if actually EA has made something, which could fit this description in the last 10 years wowey4.gif

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"Yay, EA is going bankrupt so Zynga will suddenly start making RPGs with deep, complex narratives and a ton of C&C! Happy tidings!"

EA does that now ? :p But even so, someone else will make them if people want them, I guess.

 

 

Forgot the joke-indicating emoticon :)

 

EA doesn't, but EA collapsing won't magically result in everybody else doing it, or even anybody else doing it, unlike what some people seem to think.

 

Way to miss the point, guys!

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"Yay, EA is going bankrupt so Zynga will suddenly start making RPGs with deep, complex narratives and a ton of C&C! Happy tidings!"

EA does that now ? :p But even so, someone else will make them if people want them, I guess.

 

 

Forgot the joke-indicating emoticon :)

 

EA doesn't, but EA collapsing won't magically result in everybody else doing it, or even anybody else doing it, unlike what some people seem to think.

 

Way to miss the point, guys!

 

 

"possible" EA collapsing will clean up market for a while, until someone else will get into their place of creating overpriced AAA games which needs to sell 50000000 copies to break even... endless cycle :p

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2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

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4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours

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Or not, in which case it'll be just call of duty instead of call of duty or battlefield. :p

 

The sad fact is that EA is the only major publisher that has any kind of RPG arm at the moment, and them going away wouldn't be an improvement in any way. It'd be the mid-90s again...

 

Oh, right Bethesda. I actually did forget about them. Not my cup of tea. :p

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Or not, in which case it'll be just call of duty instead of call of duty or battlefield. :p

 

The sad fact is that EA is the only major publisher that has any kind of RPG arm at the moment, and them going away wouldn't be an improvement in any way. It'd be the mid-90s again...

 

Oh, right Bethesda. I actually did forget about them. Not my cup of tea. :p

 

for me, EA RPGs not my cup of tea ;)

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2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours

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The sad fact is that EA is the only major publisher that has any kind of RPG arm at the moment, and them going away wouldn't be an improvement in any way. It'd be the mid-90s again...

 

Oh, right Bethesda. I actually did forget about them. Not my cup of tea. :p

Squeenix, Capcom, Konami, etc.

The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.

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Do not mention JRPGs to him, he might catch rabies :p

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1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours

2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours

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The sad fact is that EA is the only major publisher that has any kind of RPG arm at the moment, and them going away wouldn't be an improvement in any way. It'd be the mid-90s again...

 

Oh, right Bethesda. I actually did forget about them. Not my cup of tea. :p

Squeenix, Capcom, Konami, etc.

 

JRPG is a different genre, IMO, but I think Squeenix and DXHR might qualify for what I had in mind.

 

Oh well, EA can go, then. :p

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The sad fact is that EA is the only major publisher that has any kind of RPG arm at the moment, and them going away wouldn't be an improvement in any way. It'd be the mid-90s again...

 

Oh, right Bethesda. I actually did forget about them. Not my cup of tea. :p

Squeenix, Capcom, Konami, etc.

 

JRPG is a different genre, IMO, but I think Squeenix and DXHR might qualify for what I had in mind.

 

Oh well, EA can go, then. :p

 

 

No Nep don't bow to public pressure, you naughty boy !!!  :biggrin:

 

EA is a prestigious and respected company for millions and them going under would be a huge blow globally to many aspects of gaming.

 

Oh and you guys that don't like EA and think that they could fold with no residual impact. You are horribly wrong. Remember that Bioware is owned by them, to think you can be so cavalier with the dismissal of Bioware worries me the most. A company that created some of the best RPG's in the world and has millions of committed fans deserves a second chance at least, even if you don't think there last few games were that good. Where is your loyalty?

 

Trust me if EA closed its doors it would a crisis of monumental portions  :yes:

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Where is your loyalty?

 

 

 

What loyalty?

 

The Awakening expansion that only ran in millenum compatibility mode (if at all) where the community guy on BSN didn't acknowledge the mess that release was in for weeks, instead asking people to vote for Bioware on some ranking thing?

No thanks. Loyalty is a two way thing.

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Where is your loyalty?

 

 

 

What loyalty?

 

The Awakening expansion that only ran in millenum compatibility mode (if at all) where the community guy on BSN didn't acknowledge the mess that release was in for weeks, instead asking people to vote for Bioware on some ranking thing?

No thanks. Loyalty is a two way thing.

 

 

But Melk surely your definition of loyalty extends further than one bad product? What about all the thousands of hours you spent playing Bioware games, doesn't that out weight a few mistakes?

 

This is not necessarily directed at you but I just think certain fans of gaming are a fickle bunch

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Is EA collapsing or are you all taking out of your asses?

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Is EA collapsing or are you all taking out of your asses?

EA is not collapsing :)

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

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No Nep don't bow to public pressure, you naughty boy !!!  :biggrin:

 

EA is a prestigious and respected company for millions and them going under would be a huge blow globally to many aspects of gaming.

 

Oh and you guys that don't like EA and think that they could fold with no residual impact. You are horribly wrong. Remember that Bioware is owned by them, to think you can be so cavalier with the dismissal of Bioware worries me the most. A company that created some of the best RPG's in the world and has millions of committed fans deserves a second chance at least, even if you don't think there last few games were that good. Where is your loyalty?

 

Trust me if EA closed its doors it would a crisis of monumental portions  :yes:

Well respected, don't know about that, doubt any of the mega publishers are respected all that much. Them suddenly imploding, while amusing in a way and would produce some funny posts online, would shake up things pretty well, I agree.

 

What on earth are you talking about with 'loyalty' and EA or Bioware ? You shouldn't owe any company that.

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No Nep don't bow to public pressure, you naughty boy !!!  :biggrin:

 

EA is a prestigious and respected company for millions and them going under would be a huge blow globally to many aspects of gaming.

 

Oh and you guys that don't like EA and think that they could fold with no residual impact. You are horribly wrong. Remember that Bioware is owned by them, to think you can be so cavalier with the dismissal of Bioware worries me the most. A company that created some of the best RPG's in the world and has millions of committed fans deserves a second chance at least, even if you don't think there last few games were that good. Where is your loyalty?

 

Trust me if EA closed its doors it would a crisis of monumental portions  :yes:

What on earth are you talking about with 'loyalty' and EA or Bioware ? You shouldn't owe any company that.

 

 

I don't think you realize the fallacious nature of your comment :skeptical:

 

In life we are loyal to many things. Brands, food, TV series and authors just to name a few. If you having a chat with someone and they say "TV series X is utter nonsense" won't you disagree with them if you like that TV series? Thats loyalty. Why can't we form a similar association with Development companies. You don't owe them anything but you do support them by buying there products?

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

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Last EA game I bought was Bad Company 2, I think - that was a poor purchase as well in hindsight. So definitely not a loyal consumer to them. Not sure about your example, depends on the delivery I suppose - can be a disagreement based on opinion or some fanboy reaction. Still stand by my claim that you shouldn't be loyal (to me, I take that as regularly consuming stuff from that company regardless of things) to a company.

 

It's not like EA is too big to fail :p

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I don't owe EA nothing... They owe me Origin, Bullfrog, Westwood just to name a few... neither I do owe any other company...

 

Last game I played from EA is Wing Commander Prophecy Gold...

 

If Activision or Ubisoft would go down under, It would be for me same thing... Last game from Activision I played was Pitfall 2 on Atari 800XL, last game I played which has Ubisoft logo is Star Ocean 3 for PS2...

 

I would lose nothing if any these companies will go down tomorrow... There is enough quality developers, who will continue to entertain me as they are entertaining me now...

 

I would just gain a world with less shovelware :p

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1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours

2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours

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The new Lord of the Rings Expansion will allow players to go to Helm's Deep.  I'm pretty happy how quickly this is coming, Turbine is really hitting their stride on content releases.  It also ups the level cap to 95.  I just hit 75, so that is great news for me.  I hate sitting at the cap, that will give me a lot more levels to gain.

 

I'm guessing we wil be in Mordor in just two years.  Pretty epic journey so far.

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The new Lord of the Rings Expansion will allow players to go to Helm's Deep.  I'm pretty happy how quickly this is coming, Turbine is really hitting their stride on content releases.  It also ups the level cap to 95.  I just hit 75, so that is great news for me.  I hate sitting at the cap, that will give me a lot more levels to gain.

 

I'm guessing we wil be in Mordor in just two years.  Pretty epic journey so far.

 

Your updates about this MMO are interesting. I am considering trying this MMO out?

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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I don't owe EA nothing... They owe me Origin, Bullfrog, Westwood just to name a few... neither I do owe any other company...

 

Last game I played from EA is Wing Commander Prophecy Gold...

 

If Activision or Ubisoft would go down under, It would be for me same thing... Last game from Activision I played was Pitfall 2 on Atari 800XL, last game I played which has Ubisoft logo is Star Ocean 3 for PS2...

 

I would lose nothing if any these companies will go down tomorrow... There is enough quality developers, who will continue to entertain me as they are entertaining me now...

 

I would just gain a world with less shovelware :p

 

But doesn't it concern you that you are in a minority of people who say they don't like or support companies like EA? Most say they don't like EA but they still play there games like DA or ME. Why would you deny yourself the entertainment factor of not playing games from EA? Isn't it a case of "cutting off your nose to spite your face" ?

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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The sad fact is that EA is the only major publisher that has any kind of RPG arm at the moment, and them going away wouldn't be an improvement in any way. It'd be the mid-90s again...

 

Oh, right Bethesda. I actually did forget about them. Not my cup of tea. :p

Squeenix, Capcom, Konami, etc.

I wish Konami would get off their asses and do another Suikoden.

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Is EA collapsing or are you all taking out of your asses?

EA is not collapsing :)

 

 

Pity.

 

Not that we have much to gain either way. EA has been a big part of the process in which games were increasingly homogenized and turned into large industry, but that process is now both larger than EA and irreversible.

 

Drawing satisfaction from its collapse would just be enjoying a misplaced feeling of poetic justice.

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