Russia tread

[obyknven]

Of course he couldn't have actually said that, because we have a zero tolerance policy.

Nice! I like conspiracy theories

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[Gorgon]

What, where ?

[Malcador]

Oby is a white supremacist is the current theory, I think

[BruceVC]

 

Hopefully for the sake of this thread Russia will be in a group with USA on the World Cup.

I believe you mean "the sake of this tread"...

 

  you've been very funny the last few days...whats going on in your life that you're in such jolly spirits ?

[Walsingham]

*shrugs*

 

I did, a while back, from a PM. But you judge by what you've seen with the obsessing over racial purity, and Russian ultra-nationalism. It's a pretty shallow role to play, and not terribly well done, since the grammar and spelling mistakes are not even superficially consistent. Plus the bloody grammar yo-yos all the time between mono-syllabic and multi-syllabic.

 

It's the complete 100% unnecessary quality of the offensiveness that irks me, quite honestly. There are many good arguments for engaging with real people with offensive views - that I've got tired of. But I can't see earthly use in this bollocks, since it's impossible to engage with someone who isn't real.

 

Forget I brought it up.

[Zoraptor]

If Oby is a troll he'll say precisely what he thinks will generate the most butthurt in his target audience. Which means we'll now have an inundation of pseudo racist stuff, as that appears to be a winner. Frankly, he's been pretty successful at it, since people are still responding.

 

I, of course, view his posts as an ironic critique of the self importance and lack of self reflection intrinsic in the psychological make up of the west. Then again, I view pong as an allegory for the struggle of order and against entropy and that struggle's ultimate futility...

[Malcador]

And what do you see Pac-Man as?

[Walsingham]

If Oby is a troll he'll say precisely what he thinks will generate the most butthurt in his target audience. Which means we'll now have an inundation of pseudo racist stuff, as that appears to be a winner. Frankly, he's been pretty successful at it, since people are still responding.

 

I, of course, view his posts as an ironic critique of the self importance and lack of self reflection intrinsic in the psychological make up of the west. Then again, I view pong as an allegory for the struggle of order and against entropy and that struggle's ultimate futility...

 

And I view posts like this as what would have happened if I'd studied philosophy or literature rather than something useful.

Edited October 19, 2013 by Walsingham

[Zoraptor]

And what do you see Pac-Man as?

Allegorical representation of drug addiction.

 

Not an original viewpoint though.

[BruceVC]

 

 

I, of course, view his posts as an ironic critique of the self importance and lack of self reflection intrinsic in the psychological make up of the west. Then again, I view pong as an allegory for the struggle of order and against entropy and that struggle's ultimate futility...

 

Actually I agree, I do think Oby believes Russian culture is superior to Western culture. Its flawed and horribly incorrect but its easy to see how someone can believe that when they only have access to certain sources of information. You can see this from his numerous links

 

I have always said " the Internet is the greatest source of information of the 21st century, but it can also be greatest source of misinformation"

[obyknven]

Actually I agree, I do think Oby believes Russian culture is superior to Western culture. Its flawed and horribly incorrect but its easy to see how someone can believe that when they only have access to certain sources of information. You can see this from his numerous links

 

I have always said " the Internet is the greatest source of information of the 21st century, but it can also be greatest source of misinformation"

 

But Russian culture IRL is superrior to Western culture.

Hollywood created by Russian emigrants.

Many modern Western actors have Russian origin.

Best Western writers are inspired  by Russians:

 

Russian - semi-barbaric people, retaining the natural ability to see things as they are, as if suspended in a vacuum. We in the West, with the burden of our culture in the head, perceive each object, along with all the associations with which he had grown over many centuries of civilization. But they see, we can say a thing in itself. In recent years, many writers, especially those living abroad, had become acquainted with the works of Russian immigrants, trying unsuccessfully to attach them somewhere for a guinea or two. Written material on this day, these works, however, as two drops of water like Chekhov's stories of the least successful. But they are characterized by the same frank, direct look at things. This is a national trait, a national gift, it is particularly developed in Chekhov.

- W. Somerset Maugham

Russian artists have incredible for West artistic skills.

http://verehin.cghub.com/

http://gottsnake.cghub.com/

http://alexnegrea.cghub.com/

http://chosac.cghub.com/

http://deson.cghub.com/

http://chuvabak.cghub.com/

http://marat-ars.cghub.com/

http://lagunaya.cghub.com/

http://zoonoid.cghub.com/

http://light-child.cghub.com/

http://leshiy.cghub.com/

http://haryarti.cghub.com/

http://d8p.cghub.com/

http://andrey-r.cghub.com/

http://michalivan.cghub.com/

http://igorkieryluk.cghub.com/

And because this Russian animation is best in World

http://youtu.be/Dd8Elj9GzN4

http://youtu.be/LpWn9ZbITDc

 

Western modern Transhumanism is softcore version of Russian cosmism from late XIX century.

And look at political systems now.

USA - 2 centuries old oligarchic Republic. Citizens cant even elect own President, oligarchic representatives do it instead them.

UK - medieval monarchy, looks retarded even in comparision with US political system.

Dutch and other European monarchies - same thing.

At least progressive Communistic Revolution happened not on West, but only in Russia. Because cultural backwardness of entire world this Revolution not transformed into World Revolution and this is main reason why this attempt fail and we yet live in retarded for XXI century capitalistic  society.

 

And you known what most fascinating thing? After 1917 year West especially destroy own culture ( and education ) for preventing own cultural progress (and  possible Revolution).

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

and so on. This list can be continued infinitely.

[Walsingham]

 

 

 

I, of course, view his posts as an ironic critique of the self importance and lack of self reflection intrinsic in the psychological make up of the west. Then again, I view pong as an allegory for the struggle of order and against entropy and that struggle's ultimate futility...

 

Actually I agree, I do think Oby believes Russian culture is superior to Western culture. Its flawed and horribly incorrect but its easy to see how someone can believe that when they only have access to certain sources of information. You can see this from his numerous links

 

I have always said " the Internet is the greatest source of information of the 21st century, but it can also be greatest source of misinformation"

 

 

I don't think Russian culture is inferior. 

 

I am opposed to the lies he is promulgating precisely because they defame Russia most of all. His is not the Russia of the valorous poet or mathematician. It is Russia of the venal bully boy and oligarch. If Tolstoy were on this forum he would challenge the sordid ****er to a duel! If Altschuller saw his posts he'd spend 40 years working out how to prevent another one!

Edited October 19, 2013 by Walsingham

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

 

I, of course, view his posts as an ironic critique of the self importance and lack of self reflection intrinsic in the psychological make up of the west. Then again, I view pong as an allegory for the struggle of order and against entropy and that struggle's ultimate futility...

 

Actually I agree, I do think Oby believes Russian culture is superior to Western culture. Its flawed and horribly incorrect but its easy to see how someone can believe that when they only have access to certain sources of information. You can see this from his numerous links

 

I have always said " the Internet is the greatest source of information of the 21st century, but it can also be greatest source of misinformation"

 

 

I don't think Russian culture is inferior. 

 

I am opposed to the lies he is promulgating precisely because they defame Russia most of all. His is not the Russia of the valorous poet or mathematician. It is Russia of the venal bully boy and oligarch. If Tolstoy were on this forum he would challenge the sordid ****er to a duel! If Altschuller saw his posts he'd spend 40 years working out how to prevent another one!

 

 

Nah Russian culture is inferior to Western culture,  everyone knows that

[Walsingham]

I've known several very good intelligent Russians, and I am quite certain that if they read any of this rubbish they'd be instantly sick into a bucket.

[Gorgon]

He has kinda stared himself blind to a Russian perspective on everything. It's kinda sad really. Reminds me of Louis Farrakhan and to a lesser degree of white supremacy, but that doesn't necessarily make it racist. It's just the one half of thinking your race superior and everyone else inferior and worthy of nothing but contempt. 

[licketysplit]

But Russian culture IRL is superrior to Western culture.

 

Hollywood created by Russian emigrants.

Many modern Western actors have Russian origin.

 

 

We have Russia to blame for that schlock? Feel free to take it back any time.

[Walsingham]

thinking your race superior and everyone else inferior and worthy of nothing but contempt. 

 

riiiiiiiiiiiight.

[Gorgon]

Right.

 

Racism is specific, not to how much you love your own race, but to how you hate that of others. 

[Meshugger]

Tarkovsky is the only noteworthy filmmaker from Russia. But a damn good one.

 

Did i miss the racism-boat? I was under the assumption that it is exactly what Gorgon says it is.

[Walsingham]

Right.

 

Racism is specific, not to how much you love your own race, but to how you hate that of others. 

 

I can see why you wouldn't look too closely at the posts, but you DO see all the comments about Euros and Yanks being crap?

[obyknven]

 

thinking your race superior and everyone else inferior and worthy of nothing but contempt. 

 

riiiiiiiiiiiight.

 

riiiiiiiiiiiight.

[Gorgon]

So, you are proven right because other people are also wrong, is that the jist of your argument. Do you see the analogy between God's chosen people and your online persona, or did that just get too deep.

 

 

hmm..

[Rostere]

Tarkovsky is the only noteworthy filmmaker from Russia. But a damn good one.

 

Sergei Eisenstein says hello.

 

Also, this is another favourite of mine among modern Russian movies.

 

For history buffs, there are also absolutely awesome Russian WW2 movies which sometimes use ACTUAL uniforms and locations. I can recommend the Seventeen Moments of Spring miniseries among others.

[BruceVC]

Right.

 

Racism is specific, not to how much you love your own race, but to how you hate that of others. 

 

I agree with this perspective. I know some people think Oby pushes the  boundary of the superiority of the Russian nation but I don't think this is racist or unacceptable . It's partly a defense mechanism to elevate the status of Russia as I'm sure he is well aware of all the unacceptable social developments that are going on in Russia. This is his way of trying to convince us of " how great Russia is ". Russia is an important country but they have various economic and social issues that end of the day are holding them back from achieving the global recognition  and economic stabilization they could be at.

 

Let him post these absurd links around history and the current status of the world, most of us know these are just exaggerations or simply lies. His posts make me laugh most of the time because they are so inaccurate

[Bartimaeus]

But Russian culture IRL is superrior to Western culture.

 

Hollywood created by Russian emigrants.

Many modern Western actors have Russian origin.

 

 

Wow. Now I know who to blame. Thanks, Putin! 

 

Edited October 21, 2013 by Bartimaeus