BioWare's New Game

[Amentep]

But don't you see...I don't post to NeoGAF! I'm the root of this particular evil...

[Malcador]

Hard to find chipper without ending up awash with the COD4/Madden type of consumer gamer.

[Amentep]

I like to think I'm chipper and I've never played a COD or Madden game.

[Malcador]

I like to think I'm chipper and I've never played a COD or Madden game.

 

Well good, imagine if you had to play those to be chipper, yikes. Maybe it's just my experience on Evil Avatar, too much of that sort, always buying hype, posting "Day one!" on the flimsiest of evidence, etc. That forum is less 'grumpy' than here, but in the bad way.

 

Then again, this place isn't grumpy and hostile enough for my liking.

[Amentep]

I've never understood the "Day One!" stuff beyond cyber-oneupmanship.

[Nepenthe]

I like to think I'm chipper and I've never played a COD or Madden game.

 

Well good, imagine if you had to play those to be chipper, yikes. Maybe it's just my experience on Evil Avatar, too much of that sort, always buying hype, posting "Day one!" on the flimsiest of evidence, etc. That forum is less 'grumpy' than here, but in the bad way.

 

Then again, this place isn't grumpy and hostile enough for my liking.

And precisely for that reason I won't say what I think about you(r comment).

[Malcador]

Pft, wuss.

[Wrath of Dagon]

Accusing people of being jaded grumpy cynics is bull****. I can honestly say ME1 was my most anticipated game ever, I spent an incredible amount of time on the Bio forum before the game came out. ME was incredibly disappointing, the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

Edited December 14, 2010 by Wrath of Dagon

[Hurlshort]

What will happen is ME3 will come out, and all the people who bought it will come on and talk about how great it is. Then months will pass and those positive people will move on to other things, and then the grumpy folks will take over the thread. Rinse, wash, repeat.

[Fighter]

... the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

 

Surely this can't be true.

[Purkake]

Accusing people of being jaded grumpy cynics is bull****. I can honestly say ME1 was my most anticipated game ever, I spent an incredible amount of time on the Bio forum before the game came out. ME was incredibly disappointing, the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

So you're not a jaded grumpy cynic, because a game didn't mach your unrealistic expectations?

 

So what are you?

[Nepenthe]

What will happen is ME3 will come out, and all the people who bought it will come on and talk about how great it is. Then months will pass and those positive people will move on to other things, and then the grumpy folks will take over the thread. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Nah, what will happen is that everybody will... "acquire" it, some people will like it, some won't and a few claimed that after having "bought" it, they put it down in disgust after 30 minutes.

 

And I'll keep wondeirng why I come here. Probably because I need a mental reset button every 30-60 minutes when writing.

[Malcador]

Nah, what will happen is that everybody will... "acquire" it, some people will like it, some won't and a few claimed that after having "bought" it, they put it down in disgust after 30 minutes.

 

And I'll keep wondeirng why I come here. Probably because I need a mental reset button every 30-60 minutes when writing.

 

 

Geez, maybe you should just leave, heh, if you're wondering best to err on the safe side no ?

 

Anyway, Hurlshot's probably correct in his prediction at the reception to the game. Not that many pirates on here, after all.

Edited December 14, 2010 by Malcador

[Wrath of Dagon]

Accusing people of being jaded grumpy cynics is bull****. I can honestly say ME1 was my most anticipated game ever, I spent an incredible amount of time on the Bio forum before the game came out. ME was incredibly disappointing, the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

So you're not a jaded grumpy cynic, because a game didn't mach your unrealistic expectations?

 

So what are you?

Why do you say my expectations were unrealistic? I was expecting something like KOTOR, except with a new IP and real time combat. And before others pipe up, ME is nothing like KOTOR in quality.

 

... the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

 

Surely this can't be true.

It is true. To be fair, I usually have pretty good instincts or luck to avoid playing bad games.

Edited December 14, 2010 by Wrath of Dagon

[Purkake]

Accusing people of being jaded grumpy cynics is bull****. I can honestly say ME1 was my most anticipated game ever, I spent an incredible amount of time on the Bio forum before the game came out. ME was incredibly disappointing, the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

So you're not a jaded grumpy cynic, because a game didn't mach your unrealistic expectations?

 

So what are you?

Why do you say my expectations were unrealistic? I was expecting something like KOTOR, except with a new IP and real time combat. And before others pipe up, ME is nothing like KOTOR in quality.

Well, being your "most anticipated game ever" doesn't exactly sound non-hype-y.

 

Never mind that, though. How does that absolve you of being a jaded grumpy cynic?

[Malcador]

Jaded cynics don't anticipate anything being good..

[Amentep]

Accusing people of being jaded grumpy cynics is bull****. I can honestly say ME1 was my most anticipated game ever, I spent an incredible amount of time on the Bio forum before the game came out. ME was incredibly disappointing, the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

 

I think there are jaded grumpy cynics. I remember on Black Isle there were a number of posters who seemed to hate or have major issues with *every* game that came out; would over analyze press releases and accuse companies of lying based on vague statements made early in the development cycle of a game.

 

If those aren't jaded or grumpy cynics, I don't know what is.

 

That said not liking a game is certainly no reason to dismiss the opinion of another poster. I get that you didn't like ME1; I liked it - easily as much as I did KotOR. But that's me, I certainly wouldn't expect everyone to feel the same. Heck I liked Jade Empire and I seem to be in the minority on that too.

[Wrath of Dagon]

Accusing people of being jaded grumpy cynics is bull****. I can honestly say ME1 was my most anticipated game ever, I spent an incredible amount of time on the Bio forum before the game came out. ME was incredibly disappointing, the most amateurish, half-baked effort I've ever played.

 

I think there are jaded grumpy cynics. I remember on Black Isle there were a number of posters who seemed to hate or have major issues with *every* game that came out; would over analyze press releases and accuse companies of lying based on vague statements made early in the development cycle of a game.

 

If those aren't jaded or grumpy cynics, I don't know what is.

 

That said not liking a game is certainly no reason to dismiss the opinion of another poster. I get that you didn't like ME1; I liked it - easily as much as I did KotOR. But that's me, I certainly wouldn't expect everyone to feel the same. Heck I liked Jade Empire and I seem to be in the minority on that too.

I agree with you, some people just hate everything and are exactly as you describe. But just because someone hates a game doesn't make him one of them, again as you say. And yes, I did like JE also, although to me that's where the problems first started.

 

Well, being your "most anticipated game ever" doesn't exactly sound non-hype-y.

 

Never mind that, though. How does that absolve you of being a jaded grumpy cynic?

Yes, I was hyped, but the KOTOR games were my favorite, so why wouldn't I be? But yeah, you're right, I am jaded and grumpy, I forgot there for a moment. That's not the reason I hate ME though, that was my point.

Edited December 14, 2010 by Wrath of Dagon

[Volourn]

"What I find impossible to understand is how Bioware ended with such a crappy RPG system in ME1 (the skill system is just not a good mechanic) and such a poor inventory system, even worse than the one in Kotor."

 

Oh, hell to the no. KOTOR is BY FAR, BIO's worst RPG and ME beats it IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.

 

 

 

"Yes, I was hyped, but the KOTOR games were my favorite, so why wouldn't I be?"

 

That's your issue. Expecting ME to be KOTOR when ME is 1 million times better is silly. Anyone whose favorite game9s) is the KOTOR series has poor taste.

[Purkake]

[HoonDing]

I am very angry about videogames.

[Volourn]

Actually, I'm very happy since I try to spend most of my time on games I enjoy.

[Hurlshort]

What will happen is ME3 will come out, and all the people who bought it will come on and talk about how great it is. Then months will pass and those positive people will move on to other things, and then the grumpy folks will take over the thread. Rinse, wash, repeat.

Nah, what will happen is that everybody will... "acquire" it, some people will like it, some won't and a few claimed that after having "bought" it, they put it down in disgust after 30 minutes.

 

And I'll keep wondeirng why I come here. Probably because I need a mental reset button every 30-60 minutes when writing.

 

Trust me Nepenthe. You can go back and look at the threads for ME1 and ME2. The first month is excitement and satisfaction from almost all the people posting. The negativity sets in later.

 

It's a ritual that most Bioware games go through here. It also happens with Bethesda games, Fallout 3 was very well received originally, although Oblivion had a pretty short satisfaction phase, if I remember correctly.

[sorophx]

I try to spend most of my time on games I enjoy.

Bio didn't make a lot of games, I feel sorry for you, Volo

[Volourn]

"Trust me Nepenthe. You can go back and look at the threads for ME1 and ME2. The first month is excitement and satisfaction from almost all the people posting. The negativity sets in later."

 

That's because it's kewl to hate the popular espicially on the Nerd Heaven of the Netspace.

 

 

"Bio didn't make a lot of games, I feel sorry for you, Volo "

 

I love plenty of non BIO games. I've been ennjoying games for nearly 3 decades, and BIO games for maybe 10 of those. *shruG*

Edited December 14, 2010 by Volourn