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In other news, EA is planning to sell you demos of their games for 10-15USD

 

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/27759/A...me_Launches.php

 

It's.. it's.. it's like EA and Activision are in a battle for who takes the stupidest decision. Really.

 

 

I'd like a demo of the demo.

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That was brilliant. But I wonder, how will it be possible to apply effects to the graphics using this system? I mean, using a search function to weed out only the pixels you see on your screen is beyond clever, but doesn't that also mean that all you have to work with after the fact is the frame buffer?

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This looks amazing, but with the time how long detailed games like FF XIII have been in development with current technology, i am realy wondering how long would the graphical designers take, to create a single model out of millions of points... not to mention the whole game, whe you would need billions^billions of points to create whole scenery without copy/paste... Creating 1 model and Copy/Paste would look pretty awful imo...

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15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

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This looks amazing, but with the time how long detailed games like FF XIII have been in development with current technology, i am realy wondering how long would the graphical designers take, to create a single model out of millions of points... not to mention the whole game, whe you would need billions^billions of points to create whole scenery without copy/paste... Creating 1 model and Copy/Paste would look pretty awful imo...

So... how... magic... supercomputers ???

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This looks amazing, but with the time how long detailed games like FF XIII have been in development with current technology, i am realy wondering how long would the graphical designers take, to create a single model out of millions of points... not to mention the whole game, whe you would need billions^billions of points to create whole scenery without copy/paste... Creating 1 model and Copy/Paste would look pretty awful imo...

So... how... magic... supercomputers ???

 

i was not talking about machines... but about humans (graphical designers), who have to manualy create the models... When you have to work for a month to create realistic looking model with tens of thousands of polygons how long they would need to create model from millions of points???

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1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours

2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours

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This looks amazing, but with the time how long detailed games like FF XIII have been in development with current technology, i am realy wondering how long would the graphical designers take, to create a single model out of millions of points... not to mention the whole game, whe you would need billions^billions of points to create whole scenery without copy/paste... Creating 1 model and Copy/Paste would look pretty awful imo...

So... how... magic... supercomputers ???

 

i was not talking about machines... but about humans (graphical designers), who have to manualy create the models... When you have to work for a month to create realistic looking model with tens of thousands of polygons how long they would need to create model from millions of points???

It wouldn't have to take long at all. In fact, you could actually hire sculptors to make your models for you! A 'common' 3D scanner produces results that should be very similar to the point clouds he was talking about. It should theoretically be possible to just let a sculptor sculpt something in clay, scan it in and incorporate it into your game. Although this would probably only work for static objects since animations would be a bit tricky done this way..

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Unlimited detail sounds very interesting. Problem is there's a good chance you'll need another sort of Graphics Card, so a lot of hardware would be dated.

 

Still, holy crap!

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Unlimited detail sounds very interesting. Problem is there's a good chance you'll need another sort of Graphics Card, so a lot of hardware would be dated.

 

Still, holy crap!

Yes, that's the biggest catch. It's the same problem with sparse voxel octrees which is a similar technology that ID Software was pushing for not too long ago. Without the hardware to support it there's no chance of it being used in AAA games.

 

There are also steady advances happening on the polygon side as well where limited geometry is becoming less and less of an issue especially with DX11 and tessellation. Something that's already available on today's hardware: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-u.../63145?type=flv

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According to Kotaku, Nintendo just announced the successor to the Nintendo DS series of handheld consoles... the Nintendo 3DS (tenative name).

 

Here's the official announcement in Japanese. According to it they will reveal more details on E3 this year.

 

So it's been pretty much confirmed that it will have good processing power (probably close to what the Gamecube had), a motion sensor (given), and technology capable of showing 3D graphics without the use of special glasses.

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Oh look, 'tis that Witcher again.

Me want!

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My youtube channel: MamoulianFH
Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed)
Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed)

Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed)
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My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile)

 

 

1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours

2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours

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