Killian Kalthorne Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Can't have proof on something that doesn't exist. Believers are brainwashed into believing into such delusions. You could say that about anything that doesn't have proof. You don't have proof that God doesn't exist and I don't have proof that He does. By your logic He both exists and is nonexistant. Schrodinger's God. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Capitalisim you can also take or leave. If you do not wish to participate just don't buy things. Don't consume But you live in a Capitalist fish tank, which is just as unavoidable as the Communist one. It's not like you can just decide to grow your hair long and decide to subsist on nuts and berries. Not a lot of growth in the hunter/gatherer game in this day and age. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Capitalisim you can also take or leave. If you do not wish to participate just don't buy things. Don't consume But you live in a Capitalist fish tank, which is just as unavoidable as the Communist one. It's not like you can just decide to grow your hair long and decide to subsist on nuts and berries. Not a lot of growth in the hunter/gatherer game in this day and age. In the US it can still be done if you are so inclined. But my meaning was more along the lines of not buying what you do not need to live, just give up luxury, ammnities like computers, cell phones, etc. Don't spend your money in large stores/big companies, buy from small business only. Yes you will pay more and get less but if you are doing this out of some kind of priciple then you should be ok with that. And when all that is said and done take all the money you have left over and give it to someone else. See, it's just like communisim only you are doing it yourself rather than having the government do it to everyone else. I bet LoF doesn't do this. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 If Imperialism is necessary for a country to do its best to serve its own people then that nation is obligated to use it. If another country does not wish to be under the thumb of Imperialists then that nation should do what it can to fight them. If they are too weak to do so then they get what they deserve. Now replace "imperialism" with "genocide" in your post. Does your principle hold up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 I didn't say it was a good thing. "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuusha Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Before I post my rebuttal to a number of members here on this thread, I humbly ask all of you that are interested in this topic to view the following presentation: A Marxist analysis of the current financial crisis. This video will show you (among others): 1. Capitalism is a system designed to fail. 2. Capitalism is undemocratic. 3. Capitalism is killing the planet. Wake up America, you've been had! Edited December 30, 2009 by Yuusha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) And the alternative is what, Yuusha? Communism? Where the individual means jack and ****? You harp and harp saying how evil capitalism is but you fail to give a workable system that still gives the individual the freedoms that the citizens of the US have. Freedoms that I will die to keep. Freedoms I am willing to kill to keep. Freedom of speech, press, religion, to bear arms, and so forth and so on. Tell me, Yuusha, is there even one communistic country on this planet that gives its citizenry the same level of freedoms that the citizens of the United States of America enjoy? No, there isn't. Because of that fact I will take Capitalism, with all of its flaws, over any dictatorial communistic regime. Communism is and always shall be my enemy. Edited December 30, 2009 by Killian Kalthorne "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuusha Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 @Killian Kalthorne: You obviously didn't watch the video. The guy's actually provides the answers to your questions. Watch the damn vid man, it'll cost you nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) It costs me my time and I have no wish to waste my time on socialistic and communistic load of bull. Edited December 30, 2009 by Killian Kalthorne "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuusha Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Sigh... It's your loss then. And they say we theists are the close minded ones... FYI, the guy giving the lecture is Richard Wolff a professor of economics. If you only had the balls to listen to what he had to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) I do have to say one thing though, those who take loans that they cannot pay back are idiots and get what they deserve. Those who give out loans to people who can't pay it back are even more idiotic and deserve the consequences of their actions. This is why you do not take out loans or credit cards that you cannot afford. That is just the intelligent thing to do. If the people are stupid then they should reap from their own stupidity. I don't care who he is. He wants to blame everyone but the individual who places himself or herself in the situation of debt. "Oh, it s the Republicans fault because I decided to take a $200,000 loan I can't pay back. Shame on them for my mistakes! What? I should never be held accountable for my own financial ruin!" Another thing capitalism does is force an individual to take personal responsibility for one's own actions and inactions. You reap what you sow. Edited December 30, 2009 by Killian Kalthorne "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 The proof of God's existence does not exist outside the self, Nightshape. The proof is within if He chooses to reveal it to you. So it's an acceptable self-dellusion? Well unless you're one of the initiated, and then well you know, because you've had it proven to you... It's all against reason. love. honor. beauty. faith. none o' the aforementioned gots any objective reality... is all pleasant self-delusions. at least for Gromnir, those things worth dying for... those things worth Living for is all no more than self-delusion. we do not feel the least bit diminished by our admission o' self-delusion. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of flies Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 And the alternative is what, Yuusha? Communism? Where the individual means jack and ****? You harp and harp saying how evil capitalism is but you fail to give a workable system that still gives the individual the freedoms that the citizens of the US have. Freedoms that I will die to keep. Freedoms I am willing to kill to keep. Freedom of speech, press, religion, to bear arms, and so forth and so on. Tell me, Yuusha, is there even one communistic country on this planet that gives its citizenry the same level of freedoms that the citizens of the United States of America enjoy? No, there isn't. Because of that fact I will take Capitalism, with all of its flaws, over any dictatorial communistic regime. Communism is and always shall be my enemy. You do realize "Marxist criticism" is to class what "feminist criticism" is to sex, right? It doesn't mean the author is a communist or socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I want teh kotor 3 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 It costs me my time and I have no wish to waste my time on socialistic and communistic load of bull. This. Communism is the enemy. In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of flies Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 It costs me my time and I have no wish to waste my time on socialistic and communistic load of bull. This. Communism is the enemy. You've wasted more times in idiotic conversations with me. Watch the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenitay Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 It costs me my time and I have no wish to waste my time on socialistic and communistic load of bull. This. Communism is the enemy. Conspiracy Theory! Hey now, my mother is huge and don't you forget it. The drunk can't even get off the couch to make herself a vodka drenched sandwich. Octopus suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuusha Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 It costs me my time and I have no wish to waste my time on socialistic and communistic load of bull. This. Communism is the enemy. Ok I give up. I offer you truth and you condemn it. You guys are a bunch of morons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lare Kikkeli Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 It costs me my time and I have no wish to waste my time on socialistic and communistic load of bull. This. Communism is the enemy. neither of you even know what the word means...hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Ok I give up. I offer you truth and you condemn it. You guys are a bunch of morons! Inconvenient Truth, Loose Change, Sicko... bs that edits 'the truth' to offer one sided opinion. I've offered you 'truth' numerous times before that you promptly refused to read or watch. You sir, are the moron... perhaps even worse... a hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lare Kikkeli Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Ok I give up. I offer you truth and you condemn it. You guys are a bunch of morons! Inconvenient Truth, Loose Change, Sicko... bs that edits 'the truth' to offer one sided opinion. I've offered you 'truth' numerous times before that you promptly refused to read or watch. You sir, are the moron... perhaps even worse... a hypocrite. that's not really a fair comparison. the video he linked to is a lecture by a professor of economics, not a big budget "documentary" made to sway the public en masse behind a movement or ideology they don't understand. it's more of a deliberation than a manifest. it's a good watch, really. i wouldn't take it as the new gospel, but he does make many valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Doesn't change his hypocrisy, completely ignoring linked articles and videos others post then calling people morons for not watching his garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lare Kikkeli Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Doesn't change his hypocrisy, completely ignoring linked articles and videos others post then calling people morons for not watching his garbage. doesn't change the fact that the video he linked to isn't garbage or similar to what you compared it to at all. i guess you're a hypocrite as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Yeah, not bothering to get drawn into his trolling makes me a hypocrite. Oh wait... now I'm getting drawn into YOURS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lare Kikkeli Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) posting that article wasn't really trolling, although he did do it a trollish way. now attacking a poster and the contents of a video he posted that you haven't seen based on the posters previous behaviour? trolling. oh and i'm just pointing out that the video in question is nothing like you guys seem to think it is. but i guess these threads aren't for actually discussing things, are they? they're just for silly flaming, calling everyone a commie and promoting nihilism and social darwinism while eating cheetos and drinking mountain dew. lol. Edited December 30, 2009 by Lare Kikkeli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 posting that article wasn't really trolling, although he did do it a trollish way. now attacking a poster and the contents of a video he posted that you haven't seen based on the posters previous behaviour? trolling. oh and i'm just pointing out that the video in question is nothing like you guys seem to think it is. but i guess these threads aren't for actually discussing things, are they? they're just for silly flaming, calling everyone a commie and promoting nihilism and social darwinism while eating cheetos and drinking mountain dew. lol. This 'poster' has a history of ignoring other links of information... completely ignoring counter arguments. What part of calling out someone for being a hypocrite who calls others morons who behave exactly as he has consistently in the past do you not understand? I know this is some really hardcore intellectual stuff here. You seem hung up on the content of the link... ignore that... it was not the point of my comment. Then again I think you are just looking for drama and feel the need to rush in to defend trolls for the excitement. Its also Doritos and Diet Coke... jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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