HoonDing Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 She's just your average Republican army chick, holding petty grudges over the forces that kicked grandaddy's behind. Maybe instead she should've been ashamed for grandaddy's incompetence/cowardice in battle. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 You are just bitter because she beat up your dad. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 She's just your average Republican army chick, holding petty grudges over the forces that kicked grandaddy's behind. Maybe instead she should've been ashamed for grandaddy's incompetence/cowardice in battle. I could quote myself now, but that would be too obvious. If you would talk to her in game or read the dialog somewhere, you would see that you are wrong. But if you want to hold on the opinion that Ashley is evil/petty extremeist with both hands, by all means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Ashley was fine, much better than Liara actually, but the romance options were still cheap. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Ashley is a deep, well developed character. She knows poetry. There should've been an option to at least boot her off the ship once you become the Captain. Wait, wait, wait. Giving the player choice in a Bio game? This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majek Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Or a decent romance? o.O 1.13 killed off Ja2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 It is xenophobia and none of the other humans bitched about it. Okay, I know we are discussing about underdeveloped game character here, but I'm going to say this anyway: Ashley has a problem with aliens, because her grandfather is the only human commander who has ever surrendered to alien forces, and she and her family has received crap about it ever since. She doesn't like aliens because she doesn't know better. It's ignorance, not evil fanatical hatered towards aliens because she thinks humans are superior. That's understandable, right? Not nice nor preferable, but understandable. And all who label her as an evil nazi who wants to exterminate all aliens, because they haven't thought about why she doesn't like aliens, well guess what? That's also ignorance It's not black & white world out there. Change aliens to black people or Jews. Is it still ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 He isn't saying it is ok, he's saying there is a big difference between ignorant intolerance and nazism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Change aliens to black people or Jews. Is it still ok? I said "understandable" not ok. I would understand the point of view in both cases. If you hate the hater, aren't you a hater too? In these things you should always try to understand the oppositions point of view. Edit: Hurlshot summed it up nicely. Edited September 10, 2009 by Slinky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I never said she was a nazi, being ignorantly intolerant of aliens could easily be xenophobia: xen⋅o⋅phobe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 She whined more than Carth, honestly. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I also said she was annoying, not the next Hitler. My point is: She doesn't like aliens, because she is ignorant. If somebody labels her as xenophobic, without trying to understand her point of view, doesn't that make that somebody also ignorant? That's what I'm saying, things arent always extreme cases. Hitler and such are. You can do a lot more good if you react with understanding, not with hatered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) I also said she was annoying, not the next Hitler. My point is: She doesn't like aliens, because she is ignorant. If somebody labels her as xenophobic, without trying to understand her point of view, doesn't that make that somebody also ignorant? That's what I'm saying, things arent always extreme cases. Hitler and such are. You can do a lot more good if you react with understanding, not with hatered. None of that changes the fact that I found her to be annoying, which was my original point. I don't care if she's annoying because aliens killed her family and burned down her village or just because she's a rich spoiled brat. I'm deeply sorry that I don't take greater interest in the fictional lives of fictional characters in a video game. I really hope she won't do anything crazy without my understanding and compassion. Edited September 10, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 None of that changes the fact that I found her to be annoying, which was my original point. I don't care if she's annoying because aliens killed her family and burned down her village or just because she's a rich spoiled brat. I'm deeply sorry that I don't take greater interest in the fictional lives of fictional characters in a video game. I really hope she won't do anything crazy without my understanding and compassion. Well, you throwed the word "xenophobic" so much that it was easy to get the wrong impression. And a kitten will die every minute without your understanding and compassion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 I calls them as I sees them I can feel compassion for fictional kittens and puppies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Hmmm, did anyone feel any compassion to any character in Mass Effect? "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 There were no puppies/kittens there so NO. I'm sure everyone else broke down during Wrex's sad story of sadness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Hmmm, did anyone feel any compassion to any character in Mass Effect? Every time I blowed Kaidan up with the nuke, I was first like "crap". About 5 min later I didn't even remember that he ever existed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Has anyone felt compassion for any character in ANY game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Has anyone felt compassion for any character in ANY game? I know I felt pretty bad when that French scientist chick in System Shock 2 got killed in the hangar due to my mistake. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Change aliens to black people or Jews. Is it still ok? Aliens are not human. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Has anyone felt compassion for any character in ANY game? I know I felt pretty bad when that French scientist chick in System Shock 2 got killed in the hangar due to my mistake. Delacroix? It does kind of suck when people die because of your mistakes, but usually you can avoid it or it's just expandable RTS sprite-people. Edited September 10, 2009 by Purkake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Willy Beamish's frog, I really wanted that guy to win the frog jumping race. And when Gurgi threw himself into the Black Cauldron, I almost cried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Has anyone felt compassion for any character in ANY game? I know I felt pretty bad when that French scientist chick in System Shock 2 got killed in the hangar due to my mistake. Delacroix? It does kind of suck when people die because of your mistakes, but usually you can avoid it or it's just expandable RTS sprite-people. Yes, Delacroix. And no, the character really grew on me. And just about when I was to meet her in person, she dies. That sucked. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Has anyone felt compassion for any character in ANY game? I know I felt pretty bad when that French scientist chick in System Shock 2 got killed in the hangar due to my mistake. Delacroix? It does kind of suck when people die because of your mistakes, but usually you can avoid it or it's just expandable RTS sprite-people. Yes, Delacroix. And no, the character really grew on me. And just about when I was to meet her in person, she dies. That sucked. That sounds like Polito, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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