WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Now, Obsidian is great, I'm glad we all agree on that. But Bethesda and Bioware also do good things and I think it's time we put our hate aside and see the positive in those two developpers who just don't get enough love around here. I'm not saying we start treating every good thing they do as God's gift to gaming, but still... Here, I'll start. I like Bioware's voice actors. They're always pretty good, especially Jennifer Hale, and I like Carth/Kaidan's voice actor (mostly because he also played Scorch in Republic Commando.) Bethesda makes some big open worlds that have some nice places to explore. Like Megaton. That was nice. Point Lookout's trippy mushroom scene was nice too. Oblivion and Mass Effect were pretty. Mass Effect's ending was very epic and enjoyable. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Bethesda made a great crpg in Daggerfall, then made a not so good one in MOrrowind, then they made a wretched crpg in Oblivion, but then they made an improvement with Fallout 3. SO for the first time in like 10 years they are on the upswing. Yay! Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Well I liked BG2 and umm Jennifer Hale is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 BIO is the best RPG developer ever. As for Bethesda goes, I have nothing good to say, sorry. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Well, none of their employees have been convicted of mass-murder. This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kefeinzel Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Bethesda sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I like Bioware's voice actors. They're always pretty good, No. Male Shepard? Mass Effect's ending was very epic and enjoyable. Hah. No. Being positive, KotOR was a good game. This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) I like Bioware's voice actors. They're always pretty good, No. Male Shepard? Mass Effect's ending was very epic and enjoyable. Hah. No. Being positive, KotOR was a good game. I've deleted my memories of Male Shepard. And I enjoyed Mass Effect's ending more than the rest of the game. Edited August 19, 2009 by WILL THE ALMIGHTY "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I like Bioware's voice actors. They're always pretty good, No. Male Shepard? Mass Effect's ending was very epic and enjoyable. Hah. No. Being positive, KotOR was a good game. I've deleted my memories of Male Shepard. And I enjoyed Mass Effect's ending more than the rest of the game. Yes, well it's hardly a challenge to enjoy something more than the majority of Mass Effect. This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Woah woah. That's not positive enough. Think happier thoughts. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Oh. Uh... I thought Jade Empire had some pretty area design? This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 And I enjoyed Mass Effect's ending more than the rest of the game. There are several ways of interpreting that, not all of them positive I loved BG2, BG1 wasn't too shabby either. Some day, I might be able to identify why I like BG2 so much. Edit: Kotor was a fun enough game too for its time. Can't say much about Bethesda, too unfamiliar with their games in general. What little I tried didn't get me "hooked" “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Well, let's see. BG2 high-level mage and dragon battles were fun. Jade Empire had a pretty nice soundtrack. David Gaider started writing novels and thus is spending less time making games. Bioware helped Obsidian get rid of Ferret. Bioware helped alanschu get over that married girl he had a crush on. Bethesda got Obsidian to make New Vegas. Morrowind main theme was pretty awesome. You can improve your athletic skill by falling off a cliff. "And then I ate her" http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?s=&am...st&p=910021 Bethesda as an entity has been a pretty convenient means through which to gather up all the most incompetent game developers into the same building. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadly_Nightshade Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Bethesda as an entity has been a pretty convenient means through which to gather up all the most incompetent game developers into the same building. Sigged! "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 "And then I ate her" http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?showt...mp;#entry910021 I really love that post, Llyr. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) Baldur's Gate 2 is a fantastic RPG that IMO is unmatched in the genre. Daggerfall is now free, So I'll have something more to add a bit later after I play it. http://download.cnet.com/The-Elder-Scrolls...4-10964310.html Fallout 3 really really looks the part where the world is concerned (except for Mr. handy). *And its cool that we didn't get this on the box... **Or this Edited August 19, 2009 by Gizmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Bioware helped alanschu get over that married girl he had a crush on. ROFL it didn't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) I know a poor chap whose wife divorced him (and one of her reasons was his playing Baldur's Gate ~a lot.) Edited August 19, 2009 by Gizmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 (edited) I've enjoyed all BioWare's & Bethesda's games that've come out... even Battlespire. And in the end that's all that matters to me. *shrug* Sure there has been a downward trend going Daggerfall - Morrowind - Oblivion, but I'm optimistic Bethesda will redeem themselves with an eventual TES V... considering they brought out Broken Steel in reaction to outcries considering FO 3's ending, this gives good hope that a lot of Oblivion's design choices will be given a second thought and hopefully reversed. Edited August 19, 2009 by virumor The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Bioware was on of my favourite developers 9 years ago. Bethesda was one of my favourite developers 12 years ago. I'm not sure if these are positive, though.... "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 " KotOR was a good game. " ME > KOTOR + BG + JE + SS + MDK2 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristes Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I appreciate these chumps with my money. I guess, however, that an extra bonus is that I get to come on a message board with a bunch of folks and argue about them. That's probably my favorite thing. I'm also looking forward to New Vegas and Dragon Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Bioware >> Bethesda. That is all. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Well, Baldur's Gate 1 was good even if it was downhill from there. Also, Bethesda is not the worst company in the game industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I can't think of any BioWare games that I've played that I haven't enjoyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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