kirottu Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 This is the last time I try to teach you guys anything, bastards. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 how exactly do you know that kaftan is not either a rapist pedophile necrophiliac or someone like gandhi - or both? taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Yes, fear and respect do go hand in hand. Idealism doesn "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 No disrespect Kirottu, but you suck. Im proud to say that I treat all men with equal disrespect. That doesn't make any sense, I'm sure you mean you treat everyone with the same amount of respect before you get to know them. Otherwise a rapist paedophile necrophiliac would be as good as Gandhi. Well, given that familiarity breeds contempt, I should logicly treat people even worse once I get to know them. Which Im quite sure that I do. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 Interesting about it being looking up to. I had a further think about this while strolling through the graveyard yesterday. I didn't have any coherent thoughts but: - I used to 'respect' some of my relatives and want to be like them. - I did obey people I respected because I respected them. - I do exert authority at work through respect. The only fear that exists is a withdrawal of my respect from people who respect me. So I guess I can see why someone might think an ersatz respect could be manifested as fear and subservience. But by the same token, it's ersatz and almost worthless. Or at least that is how it seems to me. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 The reason for obedience isn't respect per se. You obey them because you know/trust them to 'do it right', and that's incidentally, the reason you respect them. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I dont respect Wals anymore because he keeps using the german word for 'substitute' instead of the proper queens english. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 We don't respect you enough to care about your opinion. But anyway, he doesn't write Ersatz correctly. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 A) The queen is German B) What's wrong with how I spell 'ersatz'? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) German nouns are written with capital letters. Edited June 12, 2009 by Oner Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 What a silly concept. You sure you don't mean proper nouns, just like every other language. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Anyway, from the Wiki page. Walsh uses the German loanword, not the German word, which means his spelling is correct. It modifies a noun so it should not be capitalised. Ersatz is a German word[1] literally meaning substitute or replacement. Although it is used as an adjective in English, Ersatz can function in German as a noun on its own, or as a part in compound nouns such as Ersatzteile (spare parts) or Ersatzspieler (substitute player). While the English term often implies that the substitution is of unsatisfactory or inferior quality, this connotation does not necessarily exist in the German context. For example, "Ersatzbutter" or "Butter-Ersatz" could be used as a generic term for margarine as a substitute for butter. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 You're taking a joke a wee bit too seriously. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 ohh,, aha. Well next time think of a funny one. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 So, having said that, does anyone think respect - assuming it is lost - can be regained by knifing the person who displayed the loss? Isn't that rather like knifing someone to make them love you? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 (edited) Well, their juvenile conceptions of respect obviously need some work. It's more like dogs asserting dominance, leaving him essentially only two choices: A. cower and wiggle his tail, B: stand up for himself and take a beating. Option C, leaving without cowering, is not allowed. Edited June 15, 2009 by Gorgon Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Isn't that rather like knifing someone to make them love you?Well. Considering that the answer to this particularly unfortunate question is not-quite-so obvious to many people... - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 We have had several so-called 'honour' killings in the UK where men from foreign cultures feel a female relative is better off dead than _being accused of_ (never mind actually doing anything) loose behaviour. that seems to be a cultural thing. Do you think this attitude to 'respect' is cultural, or personal? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Well, everyone who does it here is from the middle east and africa, but not everyone from those areas do it. So logicly it would be a personal culture choice. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Some people from foreign cultures seems to think that respect comes from the amount of fake masculinity that they impose in flashy clothes. That is respect based on wrongs assumptions. You get my respect when you have the following traits: - Rectitude: You understand your own set principles and follow them thourougly - Courage: In the face of death, you laugh - Benevolance: You are always destined to do good for you and your surroundings - Respect(Hur-hur): Meaning that you show respect to others - Honesty: You are truthful to yourself and others - Honor: Without it, you are dead. - Loyalty: Help others without self-interest, and they will help you. - Wisdom: Experience, knowledge and how you act and use it. Try to achieve enlightment. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 We have had several so-called 'honour' killings in the UK where men from foreign cultures feel a female relative is better off dead than _being accused of_ (never mind actually doing anything) loose behaviour. that seems to be a cultural thing. Do you think this attitude to 'respect' is cultural, or personal?I don't care if it's men killing women or the other way around. Generalising is always dangerous, and this matter is no exception - the reasons why a person abuses or kills their partner are possibly as numerous as the crimes themselves. That said though, I do believe that an utter loss of respect, to the self and/or the other, is involved in most cases, and always when there's recidivism... unless there's more serious mental factors involved (unmedicated schizophrenic individuals can be violent). Surely a society in which the value of a woman is equal to that of a number of camels, this is exacerbated, but obviously it is by no means a necessary and sufficient circumstance. Don't drag me into a "nature vs nurture" debate, sir! You get my respect when you have the following traits: - Rectitude: You understand your own set principles and follow them thourougly - Courage: In the face of death, you laugh - Benevolance: You are always destined to do good for you and your surroundings - Respect(Hur-hur): Meaning that you show respect to others - Honesty: You are truthful to yourself and others - Honor: Without it, you are dead. - Loyalty: Help others without self-interest, and they will help you. - Wisdom: Experience, knowledge and how you act and use it. Try to achieve enlightment. Wow. Do you fulfill all those criteria yourself, all the time? I think I'd attain the rank of Jedi Master easier than your respect... - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Aha! I will now test if meshuggah secretly respects me - Rectitude: You understand your own set principles and follow them thourougly - Pah! Consistency is for lesser beings, I could win the olympics in self-contradiction - Courage: In the face of death, you laugh - Nope, Im much more of a run away and hide kind of guy. - Benevolance: You are always destined to do good for you and your surroundings - I usually pay for the coffee so I guess Im in for this one. - Respect(Hur-hur): Meaning that you show respect to others - Respect can be seen as the opposite of rudeness and mockery so.. nope..no, that's a write-off. - Honesty: You are truthful to yourself and others - I only lie when its funny.. which is most of the time. - Honor: Without it, you are dead. - Well, I usually keep my promises if its not too inconvenient, but I dont go around challenging people to duels to the death because they say my shoes are ugly, so no.. - Loyalty: Help others without self-interest, and they will help you. - The other week I helped a friend move some stuff with the promise of icecream, but I didnt get any icecream so that makes it altruistic, right? - Wisdom: Experience, knowledge and how you act and use it. Try to achieve enlightment. - I only use my vast knowledge and irradient wisdom to make fun of people on the internet, does that count? arrr - eeeeh - esss- peee- eeeh- ciii - tea, aight? DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Some people from foreign cultures seems to think that respect comes from the amount of fake masculinity that they impose in flashy clothes. That is respect based on wrongs assumptions. You get my respect when you have the following traits: - Rectitude: You understand your own set principles and follow them thourougly - Courage: In the face of death, you laugh - Benevolance: You are always destined to do good for you and your surroundings - Respect(Hur-hur): Meaning that you show respect to others - Honesty: You are truthful to yourself and others - Honor: Without it, you are dead. - Loyalty: Help others without self-interest, and they will help you. - Wisdom: Experience, knowledge and how you act and use it. Try to achieve enlightment. You forgot: -Internets: The size of your e-pen! This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Duh, i quoted the tenets of Bushido, the goddamn code of the samurai warrior. A nation was born from these men, and you guys cannot even phantom that anyone could possess such a character? Goddamn, this place is haven for a bunch of sissies (except kirottu and kaftan) Joking aside, i just see those traits as admirable. Self-indulgence, dishonesty, cowardice, hypocrisy, anti-intellectualism are traits for which no respect should be given. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 i quoted the tenets of Bushido, the goddamn code of the samurai warrior. A nation was born from these men... A nation whose greatest contributions to the civilized world are badly drawn cartoons and porn so vile that its use in armed conflict would be considered a warcrime. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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