funcroc Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/8/82b/a74 Lead ProgrammerLiquid Entertainment 1999
Tigranes Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Perhaps it never got off the ground and was rejected in favour of Obsidian. Interesting nonetheless. What have Liquid done, again? (I'm sure I've heard about them...) Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Zoma Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 They made Battle Realms (Kung Fu RTS which was impressive back in the day), D&D Dragonshard and the recently released Rise of the Argonauts.
Deadly_Nightshade Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 War of the Ring IIRC. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
SirPetrakus Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 D&D Dragonshard Crap! recently released Rise of the Argonauts. I like this game ... but I haven't left Iolcus yet. It seems kinda fun.
Magister Lajciak Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 That is an extremely interesting find, funroc. Well, whatever the case, Obsidian has done a really good job on it, so ultimately it was probably for the best that this was transferred to Obsidian. Still, I too am surprised to hear that Liquid Entertainment worked on it at all.
Adam Brennecke Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Liquid did a prototype pitch demo for NWN2, which was made from scratch and didn't use Aurora at all. Ultimately they didn't get the project. NWN2 from Obsidian did not use anything Liquid made for Atari, and most of us didn't even know that the project existed until we hired David. Follow me on twitter - @adam_brennecke
Magister Lajciak Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Liquid did a prototype pitch demo for NWN2, which was made from scratch and didn't use Aurora at all. Ultimately they didn't get the project. NWN2 from Obsidian did not use anything Liquid made for Atari, and most of us didn't even know that the project existed until we hired David. Interesting info and thanks for the clarification!
TheHarlequin Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Liquid did a prototype pitch demo for NWN2, which was made from scratch and didn't use Aurora at all. Ultimately they didn't get the project. NWN2 from Obsidian did not use anything Liquid made for Atari, and most of us didn't even know that the project existed until we hired David. huh interesting... thanks for the info JAB. In the end you guys ended up using little of aurora anyways as well. I actually never heard of Liquid until this thread... :/ World of Darkness News http://www.wodnews.net --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente
Adam Brennecke Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Liquid did a prototype pitch demo for NWN2, which was made from scratch and didn't use Aurora at all. Ultimately they didn't get the project. NWN2 from Obsidian did not use anything Liquid made for Atari, and most of us didn't even know that the project existed until we hired David. huh interesting... thanks for the info JAB. In the end you guys ended up using little of aurora anyways as well. I actually never heard of Liquid until this thread... :/ The majority of NWN2 still runs on Aurora. Electron replaced many of the client side systems including the renderer, animation, user interface, terrian/tiles and effects. Follow me on twitter - @adam_brennecke
TheHarlequin Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) Liquid did a prototype pitch demo for NWN2, which was made from scratch and didn't use Aurora at all. Ultimately they didn't get the project. NWN2 from Obsidian did not use anything Liquid made for Atari, and most of us didn't even know that the project existed until we hired David. huh interesting... thanks for the info JAB. In the end you guys ended up using little of aurora anyways as well. I actually never heard of Liquid until this thread... :/ The majority of NWN2 still runs on Aurora. Electron replaced many of the client side systems including the renderer, animation, user interface, terrian/tiles and effects. Did you guys gut the pathfinding and AI too? Been a while since we had these convos so I may be wrong on this. I was under the impression pretty much only the game mechanics were more or less left from the original code by the time you guys finished gutting and modifying. Edited February 27, 2009 by TheHarlequin World of Darkness News http://www.wodnews.net --- "I cannot profess to be a theologian; but it seems to me that Christians who believe in a super human Satan have got themselves into a logical impasse with regard to their own religion. For either God can not prevent the mischief of Satan, in which case he is not omnipotent; or else He could do so if he wished, but will not, in which case He is not benevolent. Fortunately, being a pagan witch, I am not called upon to solve this problem." - Doreen Valiente
Adam Brennecke Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 Liquid did a prototype pitch demo for NWN2, which was made from scratch and didn't use Aurora at all. Ultimately they didn't get the project. NWN2 from Obsidian did not use anything Liquid made for Atari, and most of us didn't even know that the project existed until we hired David. huh interesting... thanks for the info JAB. In the end you guys ended up using little of aurora anyways as well. I actually never heard of Liquid until this thread... :/ The majority of NWN2 still runs on Aurora. Electron replaced many of the client side systems including the renderer, animation, user interface, terrian/tiles and effects. Did you guys gut the pathfinding and AI too? Been a while since we had these convos so I may be wrong on this. I was under the impression pretty much only the game mechanics were more or less left from the original code by the time you guys finished gutting and modifying. Pathfinding was a rewritten system in Electron. We did some changes to the AI system (such as pathfinding), but nothing extensive to decision making and behaviors. Follow me on twitter - @adam_brennecke
Solo Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 I knew of Dragonshard but was put off because it was for the PC only but I never paid attention as to who (company) made it. I am even more surprised that this Liquid Ent. was the first to try. Another compnay I haven't heard of. Well I think this compnay here, Obsidian, is going to be singing soon. Their pet project should be taking flight very soon from it's nest. Back to topic at hand. I wonder what the beta or demo works of NWN2 from Liquid Ent. looked like? Solo is not a myth to evil. But a nighmare to the evil of the lands. Ranger Lord Solo
SirPetrakus Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 I knew of Dragonshard but was put off because it was for the PC I was put off because it was utter s**t, but each man is entitled to his opinion.
samm Posted February 28, 2009 Posted February 28, 2009 Battle Realms was one of the best RTS games - I wonder why they never rose up to that level again Citizen of a country with a racist, hypocritical majority
Dark_Raven Posted March 1, 2009 Posted March 1, 2009 Who are they again? Good thing NWN2 fell into the hands of Obsidian. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Solo Posted March 2, 2009 Posted March 2, 2009 Still would like to see the demo on how it looked liked. Guess I could try to google it and see if I find anything. Solo is not a myth to evil. But a nighmare to the evil of the lands. Ranger Lord Solo
Sargoth Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 I confused Liquid Entertainment with Liquid Development [link]
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