US Presidential Elections 3

[I want teh kotor 3]

Damn, now we get more taxes.

 

You make over $200,000 a year? Really?

 

Me personally? Still in high school, don;t pay taxes. My parents, as in the people who give me money, pay for my gas and school, etc? Yup.

[Calax]

Damn, now we get more taxes.

 

You make over $200,000 a year? Really?

 

Me personally? Still in high school, don;t pay taxes. My parents, as in the people who give me money, pay for my gas and school, etc? Yup.

if you're young and republican you have no heart

if you're old and democrat you have no mind

 

 

-my old govnmt teacher

[Trenitay]

I also am in high school and i support democratic interests and policies. I live in a highly republican, highly racist area. Its not cool and want to shoot every one of them in the face for the combination of reasons.

[Volourn]

"Its not cool and want to shoot every one of them in the face for the combination of reasons."

 

So in your opinion, it's democratic policy to shoot those who have different opinions then you even if they aren't vioently attacking you? Cool.

[Pidesco]

Damn, now we get more taxes.

 

You make over $200,000 a year? Really?

 

Me personally? Still in high school, don;t pay taxes. My parents, as in the people who give me money, pay for my gas and school, etc? Yup.

if you're young and republican you have no heart

if you're old and democrat you have no mind

 

 

-my old govnmt teacher

 

 

You were taught by Churchill?

[I want teh kotor 3]

Damn, now we get more taxes.

 

You make over $200,000 a year? Really?

 

Me personally? Still in high school, don;t pay taxes. My parents, as in the people who give me money, pay for my gas and school, etc? Yup.

if you're young and republican you have no heart

if you're old and democrat you have no mind

 

 

-my old govnmt teacher

 

I have a heart... somewhere.

You were taught by Churchill?

 

[thepixiesrock]

Oh sweet, Jennifer Granholm is going to be a big part of helping Obama fix the economy. She has done such a great job in Michigan. We're really doing well.

[Pidesco]

Oh sweet, Jennifer Granholm is going to be a big part of helping Obama fix the economy. She has done such a great job in Michigan. We're really doing well.

 

 

 

But is she hawt?

[Trenitay]

"Its not cool and want to shoot every one of them in the face for the combination of reasons."

 

So in your opinion, it's democratic policy to shoot those who have different opinions then you even if they aren't vioently attacking you? Cool.

 

Well, I guess you could take it that way, but i was actually getting mad at racism.

[thepixiesrock]

So you just want to kill everyone who is racist?

[Pidesco]

If you think they're evil you are allowed to kill'em. This rule is the secret for the success of moral absolutes.

[Wrath of Dagon]

"For once to my amazement I agree with Volourn. The only reasons Republicans lost was because everyone hates Bush and the economy tanked. "

 

Next time *read* my post before you 'agree' with me, because you did anything but. The Repubs didn't lsoe because of any Bush 'hatred'. they lost becfause the country preferred Obama to McCain. Period. It's not complicated.

Well, I agreed with most of your statement. And obviously if they voted for Obama, they preferred Obama, for whatever reason. The rest of my comment I added for myself, not really commenting on what you said, and I take it we disagree on that, so I'm back to not being amazed, everything's right with the world again.

[Trenitay]

So you just want to kill everyone who is racist?

 

Pretty much. Im not a violent person but all this ignorance around me makes me want to kill them all.

[Wrath of Dagon]

And yet it's the place to be.

[Trenitay]

Maybe youre right. But its the place to be because im here to bring the light to Orting.

[Humodour]

Here's why the GOP is in big trouble regardless of what ideology they try to jump ship to next: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/v...indman1109.html

 

More here: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday...0,7258593.story

 

Edit: And here's Arnie calling for the GOP to start listening to the people and not get stuck on ideology: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-ar...0,3746979.story

 

So I wonder, in the GOP's planned purge of moderates, will they get rid of Arnie as well?

Edited November 10, 2008 by Krezack

[Aristes]

I'd like to make a couple of points, Awesomeness. First of all, how many people are established racists and how many do you assume are racists without clear evidence. Second, if you hate racists, then do you mean the kind who lynch people of color or do you mean the kind who are suspcious of people of color and maybe don't treat them exactly the same. The point is, everyone has some sort of prejudice. It's endemic of society. Now, shooting someone in the head because he looks down on people of color would make you rather stupid and considerably more evil than he is. That would be like executing folks for being ignorant. Most folks who are racist are simply suspicious of people who exhibit a visible physical difference to themselves. It's not always translated into an urge for any specific action and most of the general actions are considerably less harmful than shooting someone in the face.

 

The statements you've made in this thread seem on the reactionary and prejudice side also, but I figure you're just venting. No biggie. I can be a prejudiced person who gets reactionary and vents also. Just don't assume wanting to shoot perceived racists in the face makes you morally superior.

[Volourn]

"Pretty much. Im not a violent person but all this ignorance around me makes me want to kill them all."

 

L0L I'm a pacifist, and I'LL BEAT YOU UP TO PROVE IT! Nice philosophy.

 

You are no better than thsoe you claim to hate.

 

The problem with most racists and his they hate what they don't know 'cause it's 'different'. Seems you have their weakness.

[Trenitay]

"First of all, how many people are established racists and how many do you assume are racists without clear evidence. Second, if you hate racists, then do you mean the kind who lynch people of color or do you mean the kind who are suspcious of people of color and maybe don't treat them exactly the same. The point is, everyone has some sort of prejudice. It's endemic of society. Now, shooting someone in the head because he looks down on people of color would make you rather stupid and considerably more evil than he is. That would be like executing folks for being ignorant. Most folks who are racist are simply suspicious of people who exhibit a visible physical difference to themselves. It's not always translated into an urge for any specific action and most of the general actions are considerably less harmful than shooting someone in the face."

 

1. At least 30 percent of the population of the area is racist. Maybe more maybe a little less.

 

2. I mean the kind who wish they could go out and lynch people. If someone is suspicious they may not voice their opinions or will say they are suspicious. Not use discriminatory and degrading words aimed at People of other races.

 

Sorry, now that i reread my posts i did seem a bit irrational. I'm not going to go out and kill anyone over it, I just wish People were a bit more open

Edited November 10, 2008 by awsomeness

[Trenitay]

"Pretty much. Im not a violent person but all this ignorance around me makes me want to kill them all."

 

L0L I'm a pacifist, and I'LL BEAT YOU UP TO PROVE IT! Nice philosophy.

 

You are no better than thsoe you claim to hate.

 

The problem with most racists and his they hate what they don't know 'cause it's 'different'. Seems you have their weakness.

 

Im no better than any other person. We are all different and I think differently than them. I would like to think that my way of thinking is right but I can't prove it to them or you. Again, I'm not going to kill anyone, I'm angry and i say things that are irrational at times.

[Humodour]

"Pretty much. Im not a violent person but all this ignorance around me makes me want to kill them all."

 

L0L I'm a pacifist, and I'LL BEAT YOU UP TO PROVE IT! Nice philosophy.

 

You are no better than thsoe you claim to hate.

 

The problem with most racists and his they hate what they don't know 'cause it's 'different'. Seems you have their weakness.

 

Racism isn't just 'different', it's plain wrong.

 

But words are words. Somebody isn't a racist for making Jew jokes or using the word '****', and they certainly aren't murderous for using hyperbole about killing racists. In most cases I'd say neither use of language is particularly appropriate, but it's just that: language.

 

Stop seeing the world in black and white (heh heh), Volourn.

[Calax]

I was taught by a Libertarian who would answer all the questions on stuff as if he was a republican through and through.

[Wrath of Dagon]

Here's why the GOP is in big trouble regardless of what ideology they try to jump ship to next: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/v...indman1109.html

All that means is that younger voters respond better to charisma, idealism and vague world changing promises than older and wiser voters. There hasn't been any great idealogical shift yet, perhaps there will be one if Obama does extremely well or if this turns into a great depression. Reagan almost lost to Carter lolz, then he won 49 states, then Bush was losing to Dukakis in the polls but managed to destroy him in the campaign and win, then losing to Clinton. You can't read too much into any one election, they all depend on conditions on the ground.

 

As far as purging moderates, that's typical Republican grumbling after every loss, I don't think it means much.

[taks]

All that means is that younger voters respond better to charisma, idealism and vague world changing promises than older and wiser voters.

same reason bill clinton won against HW. nothing new.

 

There hasn't been any great idealogical shift yet, perhaps there will be one if Obama does extremely well or if this turns into a great depression.

no ideological shift at all. mccain did manage 46% of the vote, in spite of media slant that was clearly against him.

 

As far as purging moderates, that's typical Republican grumbling after every loss, I don't think it means much.

a buddy of mine and i have had this discussion a million times. he comes from galveston down in dixiecrat territory (his dad is a dixiecrat judge). republicans don't need to drop moderates, they need to drop the social harping, i.e., religious based arguments. stick to small government rather than spend like they did with a republican controlled house/senate/presidency and they'll do better. the younger republicans seem to know this. i think the ones that needed to get purged, got purged, quite frankly.

 

taks

[Meshugger]

a buddy of mine and i have had this discussion a million times. he comes from galveston down in dixiecrat territory (his dad is a dixiecrat judge). republicans don't need to drop moderates, they need to drop the social harping, i.e., religious based arguments. stick to small government rather than spend like they did with a republican controlled house/senate/presidency and they'll do better. the younger republicans seem to know this. i think the ones that needed to get purged, got purged, quite frankly.

 

taks

 

Of all other forums and blogs that are out there, this is the most sane one from a republican point of view. I sense a Ron Paul-lite message on the incoming election.